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2019-10-10 11:36 by Karl Denninger
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Impeachment, Brennan and Ukraine (Podcast)
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Where did this impeachment thing really start from?  Is it really about "Orange Man Bad" or is there something much deeper and more-nefarious going on?

It's rather apparent it's the latter.

PS: Part II is coming, where I identify the specific statement Trump made, and when, that set the entire Administrative State into a panic.  Stay tuned....

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Who the hell are these bad actors REALLY working for? It sure as hell isn't the American people. Whoever it is, more than half of the press must be on their payroll as well.
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Who the hell are these bad actors REALLY working for?
SATAN

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The press is too pot committed in poker terms to back off the story now. When the story comes out they won't report it.

Trump should appoint Rudy as a special counsel right now and at the same time announce he will not be running for reelection. Give Rudy all of the money and attorneys he needs and blow this whole thing wide open.

Then when he leaves office he should set up Trump Broadcasting Network. It's gonna be YUGE! Have a truly conservative network and a news organization that is America First.

He could do far more good doing this than being President. Then support Jordan or Meadows in their run for President to pursue the America First agenda.

He could SO **** with these traitors with the right decisions.

Current days activities appear as though they are now going after Rudy.

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. . . announce he will not be running for reelection. . . Then support Jordan or Meadows in their run for President . . .
That would be tantamount to surrender.

The reason Trump won was because of his messages/promises AND his already significant name recognition. IMO, he had to have both of those - if either had been lacking, there is no way he would have even come close.

Neither Jordan nor Meadows (or anyone else the Reps could dig up) currently have, nor could they establish by the time of the election, the positive name recognition required to make a credible go of it.

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Just for nothing, I wasn't sure I liked the podcast format. Karl's written form has become part of my daily meditation. You can savor it between phone calls and emails. And with side-issues like looking up pertinent law, one post can last all day long. And I do credit Karl with preserving what remains of my sanity and any nuance of objectivity.

The podcast format demands a more immersive form of attention. You have to stop what you are doing and just listen. Is this intentional? Does this remotely smack of COERCION? Karl you time-nazi!

On the other hand, to hear Karl's voice booming out from sunny Niceville Florida is like standing next to the guy running the juice machine. You get a full day's supply of vitamin kick-ass just from the over pour. And if you haven't heard Karl's spoken voice but only read his sometimes venomous screeds, you'd have no idea that he's actually a really nice guy.

And there we have it. I have successfully talked myself into liking the new format. Probably the most important thing I will accomplish today. And giving every single reader the opportunity to outproduce and out-perform me in measurable terms.

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I fully support the Barnhardt Axiom ("The culture has degraded such that seeking and/or holding political office, especially national-level office, is, in and of itself, proof that a given person is psychologically and morally unfit to hold public office.") and believe at least a corollary of that includes the deep state tit suckers.

I think virtually every pol is a slimy piece of ****, but reserve special enmity for Brennan, Clapper, Holder and Obummer - each deserve to have their heads removed from their bodies by a rusty pocketknife. Oh, and the lame stream media that continue to support the proven bull**** narratives. Yeah, **** them, too.

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Part II is coming, where I identify the specific statement Trump made, and when, that set the entire Administrative State into a panic. Stay tuned....

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The key question for me regarding 9-11 is "Who profits ?".
If bad actors in high places want to establish a Stalinist police state, a 9-11 event is a dream come true. So, why wouldn't they want to help such an attack along. (Today,the same bad actors are using the same twisted logic they used in 9-11 by orchestrating endless crises - mass shootings, illegal immigrant invasion, never-ending and pointless wars - to get the total control they lust for.)
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It worries me that there is almost no coverage of the corruption and 100% coverage on the made up story. We have 3 or 4 bureaucrats manufacturing a story, along with a conspiracy within the Democrat Party and likely some Republicans and the majority of the news is pushing the lie. They pushed the Russian lie. They pushed the Kavanaugh bull****. Nothing has been done to the conspiracy yet and it appears the screaming now is to keep anything from being public as an official story about such SEDITION.

Any truth at all is being provided by one news agency and it is clear they don't want it out either. The NARRATIVE BELONGS TO THE DEMOCRAT SIDE THERE TOO. The real issue is the corruption Trump walked into, not whether this guy did this or that. A few bureaucrats are going to have a real problem overcoming an official transcript. They can make it up. In the text messages, Bill Taylor is really suspicious and it appears to me he went out of his way to get pay to play into the narrative. How many Communists and partisans are within the structure of foreign policy and other branches of the government. Remember Brennan ran the CIA. Think he didn't import and arrange the deck for his term?

The mainstream American news is no different than what they had in the SOVIET UNION. It's value as a source of information is maybe below the NATIONAAL ENQUIRER, which has broken more important stories than NBC, CNN AND ABC combined. When the MSM gets important information, they sit on it. They prefer to focus on what a judicial appointee might have done as a kid in 1983, with almost no evidence it is true other than politically placed sources.

We might be about to find out why our Federal Government costs us $25,000 per job. That is $12.50 an hour for those keeping count, which means a large sector of the population would have to give their entire income to pay their share. We aren't even into state and local government, which in my case is a property tax bill of $7200 plus 2% sales tax, gasoline tax and who knows what else.

THERE SEEMS TO BE NO CONCERN ON WHO IS STEALING, UNLESS IT CAN BE LINKED TO TRUMP. PUT IT OUT THERE THAT OBAMA, HILLARY AND BIDEN HAVE BEEN STEALING AND WHAT YOU GET IS CONSTANT VIEWS OF BIDEN SCREAMING TO GO AFTER TRUMP AND ATTACKS ON TRUMP'S MESSENGER.

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Part II is coming, where I identify the specific statement Trump made, and when, that set the entire Administrative State into a panic. Stay tuned....


Trump is President of the United States and a billionaire. He has more resources than the political parties at a given time, save for a network of trained psychotic liars. He has basically been threatened with charges of treason since he came into office. I think Trump has had the goods for roughly 2 years. It goes back to his statement about the calm before the storm, in October 2017.

Lee Stranahan, who worked for Breitbart, in the past, was doing the Ukraine story in the first half of 2017. Biden shot off his big mouth. It didn't take any digging up dirt on Biden in Ukraine to know that he coerced the Ukrainian government to do something in return for American money. I would like to know what happened to the money after they got it. Trump might have known they were already investigating Burisma and merely wanted a follow up.

Donald Trump has navigated some obstacles in his time. For a decade, knowing what I know about the national real estate scene, which is much more than the average Joe, I believed Trump to be broke. Trump's own words, he was. Atlantic City was a boondoggle, created in part by the creation of Indian tribe casinos cross the world, in the meantime. I felt Trump was left in charge, because the banks were stuck with the assets and they needed a manager and there was probably no better choice than Trump. Contrary to the left statements Trump doesn't work much, the guy is a machine. He has been an American icon for close to 40 years, when he arose in NYC in the early 1980's. No movie stars or rock stars have been above him in celebrity.

Trump has the goods 2 years ago. We are seeing the tip of the ice berg. What he couldn't do through the government, he had the means to do otherwise. I believe Rudy is his lawyer for the purpose of his private investigation. The swamp is now going to try to discredit Rudy. Anyone visible in NYC, has some connections with seedy characters. It is impossible not to. Epstein was everywhere. People were falling over themselves to get in with Madoff. You can't do a deal without touching organized crime there, whether you are aware they are organized or not.

We are faced with a battle here. Does the made up story cover up the real story? How much of the $25,000 a year per job that comes through DC is being stolen in various means? I believe foreign affairs has been corruption scene for decades and only become worse as time goes on, because nothing has been done about it. It is common for diplomats to steal around the world, because they have immunity. If the country that sends them out doesn't do anything about the corruption, it is a green light to do all kinds of crooked things. Again, who was Biden preaching to when he incriminated himself in public? The CFR, which has controlled foreign affairs in the US for 100 years. They also control key people in the news media. Read their membership, if you doubt me.

If Biden is corrupt, Obama is likely corrupt, the ambassador is corrupt, Brennan is corrupt and most of all, George Soros is an international criminal of epic proportions. Wonder why someone would spend tens or hundreds of millions to disrupt the US and try to elect a known crook Hillary?

Trump has brought up a lot of things over the years. 911 was one of them. The Obama birth certificate. Drain the swamp. I can't believe he didn't know a lot of this stuff was coming. There is no telling what they might have done to him, had he lost. He was missing one component, how to get into the government, even if elected. We had reached a point where the crooks in government were not punishable, unless they were on the wrong side. It is embedded within the bureaucracy.


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The Pickering Post article to which you referred is an amazing source -- quite clarifying, actually. They also published a second article, written a week or so later, on Burisma Holdings which adds to the information on the first. The fact that Soros is behind all of this makes sense, more intuitively than rationally, though facts are slowly coming out which prove his carefully concealed machinations.

Biden is so damned by these revelations, if they get out to the general public. Next ... Kerry, Clinton, Pelosi and the biggest fish of all, Obama.

As Mannfm11 wrote above, our MSM barely covers these breaking stories which leads me to think that perhaps, along with the pols, media personalities, owners and investors will be caught up in these stings.

The corrupt or incompetent are slowly being exposed. Hollywood is sinking. The MSM has lost its cultural potency. Government corruption is slowly coming to light. What remains is the "institution" Id most love to see crash and burn: academe or higher ed, (for personal reasons).

What most interests me is not so much the exposure of corruption or influence peddling, but the increasing sensibility among ordinary people that these institutions are not unassailable, their elitists can be mocked with impunity, and most importantly, that the truth, however one defines it, is only found on the cultural margins in upstart blogs such as this one.

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The counter narrative being put forth is that there is a disinformation campaign being waged by the Russians to discredit us and our actions and they were using Rudy and the American Right, and their channels were the two Ukrainian gentlemen just arrested.

This isn't to discount the argument you make about our corruption and our Lefts dirty dealings and people enriching themselves in the Ukraine...let me explain

I just don't buy the narrative that Trump is doing it root out 'corruption' and to somehow stop the Deep State. It seems like his globalist oligarchs are waging a proxy battle against the Left's globalist oligarchs, not that there is any sort of altruistic 'corruption' cleanup going on.

Rudy and Manafort and the RNC have been up to their eyeballs in this **** just like the Clintons were up to their eyeballs in Chinese cash in the 90s.

There is an alternative I'd like to put forward, not that Brennan isn't corrupt and evil for his use of the Surveillance State or that the Obama Administration was swampy anyway.

The counter argument is that our interference in the Ukrainian elections was as a result or a counter to prior Russian interference in the Ukrainian process. Don't forget this was after the Orange Revolution and the Ukranians had moved to the west and that was unacceptable to Moscow because they didn't want to lose their Cold Water Port, so then they tried to put their own guy in, who we helped to topple.

I'm not saying its right, it just is what it is, there was an ongoing proxy war there and our actions were a response. Now I am sure if you go further back, someone will say the Russians actions were in response to us, and that before that we funded the Orange revolution.

At a certain point, these proxy wars become like hatfields and mccoys, who started what where, and who did what becomes blured because we do something, they do something, we do something, they do something.

Back and forth....back and forth....back and forth...over and over again this proxy war between the US and Russia, and Ukraine is the battlefield going back to the 90s.

I have no doubt they wanted to 'Expose Corruption' or rather, air dirty laundry on Biden, Brennan, Obama and whoever else. What I doubt based upon what I've seen over the past two years is that the Orange Man (or at least the people he surrounds himself with) is a saint in all of this, for a lot of other reasons.

I don't think Trump understands this game being played, I think he may really believe he is trying to root out corruption, and even Rudy, I don't think he really understands it, because he has been compromised through his years of 'consulting' work for these people.

Its like I've long said, I give him credit for cleaning up the Italian Mafia in New York, but he seems to have this huge blindspot for the Russian and Ukrainian mafia that he cleared the table for... I'm not saying he is bought or owned by them, but that he became a useful patsy in a game of global risk and doesn't even see it.
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@Amused -- Meh. This **** has been going on for so long, and Americans have known it and not given a ****, that for them to come after Trump for it is implausible. Witness the two who just got bagged with ties to Rudy.

Nobody gives a ****. We didn't give a **** with Iran-Contra. We didn't give a **** with the first Iraq invasion (arguably legitimate), nor the second (definitely not.) We didn't give a **** when Ghadaddi was sodomized and murdered. We didn't give a **** when (insert whatever), all the way back to at least the Shah's installation and overthrow of the government there to do it, which is not speculation any more since the documents have been declassified.

No, it has to be worse, because otherwise nobody would give a ****.

I think I know what it is, and that Trump threatened it, indirectly, in early 2016 is what started all of this. Why? Because THAT ONE might actually******off the public enough that they decide they've had it with the Administrative State folks -- that they want them BBQd and they MEAN IT.

Which is in Part 2.

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TMD, Trump is likely the only person out there with the resources that has been on the outside and isn't a totalitarian lefty who can root this out. Like it or not, the short term fate of the US is in Trump's hands. His opponents are FASCISTS AND COMMUNISTS. You only need look at their tactics. If the President of the US isn't safe from these hoodlums, who is?

Trump isn't going anywhere. The aim of the swamp is to destroy him. Note that he kicked sand in their faces, getting out of Syria, which probably has its own corruption story. When a man hits 50 or 60, he has to do the math. No one lives forever and the likely result is they will leave the earth at age 80 or younger. You can do things to live longer, but you can't make yourself live longer. Plus, one has learned how short 20 years is by that time. Hillary would have finished off the US. Her only platform was diversity and free ****. She was going to cover up all this stuff. Whether Trump knew the State Department, the executive branch, the CIA, the FBI and the DOJ was going to be used against him, who knows. He knew it by the time Mueller was appointed.

My problem with Republicans in Congress is they all know more than they will tell us. It doesn't help Trump that every lie the Democrats hear or every partial story is leaked to the press. Why are they bottling up the truth, which is that our government, in the bureaucracy and maybe in the Congress is corrupt? I don't think Jordan or Meadows is smart enough to be President and would be stuck with the same swamp Trump walked into. Trump had few resources other than what the RNC would supply him. What they do? Act to **** him. The Senate has done nothing to move Obama people out and put Trump people in.

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Karl

He threatened the Fed.

He stated a desire to redefine the American Dollar under his terms.


That is what this is all really about.

Who gets to define the next iteration of the Dollar.

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I love a guy who knows only left wing propaganda. They are easy to dispel. Because they lean to the left, they believe in the administrative state. Note that the President is supposed to have power over the administrative state, unless his name is Trump. This has been the battle, all along.

I have been preaching for over 2 years that all this crap is about tying up Trump so they can keep their crimes covered. How close are the business associations between Giuliani and the people fingered? IS this another swamp attempt to discredit someone so they can sweep their garbage under the carpet. Remember, it is highly likely that if they get rid of Trump, this stuff goes back under the rug.

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Mannfm11: I think you seriously mis-read Donald.

You need to go back to his 1990 Playboy interview and read what he said about China and Russia, and how we believed Tiananmen square or the fall of communism in Moscow should have been handled.

He didn't say: 'the governments were abusing the liberties of their people', or 'they were evil regimes and due to fail'

No. He said they 'lost control' and he would have 'come down much harder'.

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Can you talk about who YOU THINK is ultimately pulling the strings. As a student of history all of this is par for the course for Government. Somehow we deluded ourselves we were different, more modern or above it all.

This is not happening in isolation... within our country or the foreign countries of the world...

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"In a land without Rule of Law even a sane man who desecrates the state must be made to look crazy. "
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."

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I think the issue is, they broke the rule that you don't eat your own. You can play this international game of **** all you want, and they would welcome him in to the club, but you don't eat the people at the top playing the game.

Had they just stuck to looting the Ukrainian Natural Gas market, we would have never heard about it, but once Biden got brought in, the Deep State went in to action.
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Snippets from Trump's Inauguration Speech:

* For too long, a small group in our nations Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.
* Washington flourished but the people did not share in its wealth.
* Politicians prospered but the jobs left, and the factories closed.
* The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country.
* January 20th 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.

George W. Bush's reported response to the speech:
"was some weird sh%&"
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@Spazznout -- No, it's not that.

It's one specific thing that JUST MIGHT be enough for the people to decide that they've had it.

They'd be within their rights to do it too, and as President if documentation exists, AND IT DOES IF I'M RIGHT he can unilaterally declassify it and there's not jack and **** anyone can do about it so long as he's President.

Thus, he can't be President.

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Mannfm11.........most lot of the Repubs will be shown to be complicit.

Thew "swamp" exists on both sides of the isle.

This is NOT exclusively a Democrat problem....

"Its a big club and we are not in it".....

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@Spazznout -- Yep. It's NOT a "Democrat" thing. They just happen to be the loud opposition. The "R"s know damn well that given that Trump won if they go after him openly they'll get ass****ed and the Dems will have 400 seats in Congress.

Therefore they can't OPENLY do so. This also means they can't vote for him to be convicted on an impeachment either. But they can do things "quietly" that they can't get tagged on publicly, with a few exceptions (E.g. Flake, McCain and now Romney.)

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Mannfm11: Here it is

https://www.playboy.com/read/playboy-int....

What were your other impressions of the Soviet Union?
I was very unimpressed. Their system is a disaster. What you will see there soon is a revolution; the signs are all there with the demonstrations and picketing. Russia is out of control and the leadership knows it. That's my problem with Gorbachev. Not a firm enough hand.

You mean firm hand as in China?
When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak as being spit on by the rest of the world

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