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2019-09-10 13:24 by Karl Denninger
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Well well....

Bolton is out.

Good riddance, *******.  This guy was the warmonger's warmonger.

But...... he was appointed in the first place.

My guess is what got him axed was that he squawked about Trump inviting the Taliban originally to talk with him, and then killed the meeting when they decided to try to gain leverage with a car bomb.

So what was his point being in the administration in the first place?

Ah, there you are, right?

It's supposedly "policy clashes" that led to his ouster.  What -- Mr. President didn't know what Bolton stood for an advocated before he hired him?  Bull****.

Hiring someone for their "chops" as some people see when they sit directly opposed to your views is idiotic.  But... that's what passes for "policy" these days.

I'm glad the ******* is gone but he never should have been hired in the first place.

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Drifter
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Ivy league educated foreign policy advisers have done more damage to our strategic relationships with other countries since 1918 than a random person from a phone book ever could.
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Again, Karl, you manage to coherently and succinctly sum up my thoughts on a matter. (Well, one that I actually am able to understand, anyway.)

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Haven't kept up with the news on the Taliban meeting too much but I assume Bolton was not pleased about that. The guy has a lot of blood on his hands, good riddance.

I love how the tribe of D candidates are trying to make hay about Trump negotiating with terrorists. And the alternative is endless war? That's been working out so well for the past 18 years.

If Trump can get us out of Afghanistan that would be a big political win to ride into 2020 with.
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This is the first good news that I have heard out of Washington AC/DC in quite a while. Bolton was the shrillest Israel-First and war advocate in the present feckless regime; he will immediately go to work for one of the many Israel First propaganda "think tanks" infesting the Beltway environs. Bolton's ouster won't make much difference though. I would wager that 99% of our elected officials in DC would stand in line for hours to perform sexual favors on Benjamin Netangoogleyahoo.
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Couldn't agree more Karl. How was this guy hired with his track record?

I'm also glad he is out. Now we will see who is next. I predict Trump will appoint yet another beltway insider to continue the status quo.

My question is, how many times does Trump need to betray his stated agenda before his supporters believe he is compromised or was lying in the first place? And it doesn't really matter which it is, the result is the same.

Oh, and I'll answer my own question. The vast majority of people will never wake up to what is really happening due to their ignorance, much of it purposeful.
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Aquapura - While I agree getting out of Afghanistan would make political hay for Trump, unless the guy adopts and promises to adhere to at least some of the points Karl put out the other day, my vote goes as follows.

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Gonewest wrote..
I'm also glad he is out. Now we will see who is next. I predict Trump will appoint yet another beltway insider to continue the status quo.

Yep, Trump draining the swamp only to fill it right back up with swamp water.

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I think he was hired because Trump needed the war party faction of republican party on board to get senators helping him

He also needed the wildest wildcard warmonger to play the bad cop in negotiations with Mr North Korea. Trump is the good cop holding out the carrot saying, look man these guys just want to destroy you, but I am in charge so lets talk peace

Bolton wore out his credibility and effectiveness in both of these ploys and so he is gone

Trump has a very business mindset - you hire the best people for the job, and when the job is done or they cant do the job, they are out.

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Trump has a very business mindset - you hire the best people for the job, and when the job is done or they cant do the job, they are out.
I sure don't see it that way.

IMO, with few exceptions, it seems that many of his appointments have been incompetent, sleazy, stupid, crazy, previous swamp-denizens, and/or warmongers from the get-go, often falling into more than just one of those categories.

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I'd like to believe djloche's view but the cynic in me thinks Peterm99 may be correct.

More heavy metal of all sorts just in case.

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I also agree with djloche. He was the bad cop. Plus, Trump likes TV personalities who can give it to their many opponents good.

But Trump hates to be upstaged. This is a show isn't it? /s

We've seen time and time again, when a subordinate disagrees with him in public, that subordinate is soon gone. I think that's what Trump means by loyalty, and that would be part of my definition too.
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Trump can't seem to ever actually hire "the best people", because "the best people" are aware of Trump's history of royally reaming and ruining everyone with whom he has any kind of association. Trump resorts to hiring known desperate dregs, whom he then fires for fulfilling their promise.
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I shook my head in disgust when I first heard of his appointment.

Haley wasn't that much better either at the UN either.

Endless wars when we really have everything we need here is ridiculous. It's because some crony somewhere wants what is not rightfully his to start.

If there ever was an ******* that deserved to be strapped to a missle and shot into the middle East then he is the one.


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Glad to see the war ***** gone, but there is a long line of stand-ins for Bolton waiting in central casting for their next acting "assignment."

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I'm glad that Bolton is gone, but he never should have been hired in the first place. He went around fomenting wars knowing full well that he would never be involved in combat. He artfully played the National Guard card when he might have been drafted to fight in Vietnam. I know several of my friends who were killed over there, from my outfit, that would have liked to do the same thing, especially Sp4 Jose Arroyo, who left a baby daughter behind, that he had never seen, and Sp4 Parker, who was killed near LZ Grant, also.

Then there is our Illustrious Attorney General, who carefully declines to prosecute clear cut violations of statute laws, but thinks that it is perfectly fine for the federal government to murder its own citizens.
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