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2019-09-10 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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This is the sort of thing that makes one's hair stand up.

The next three thousand days will be something very much like our judgment days. The next three thousand days — the next decade — will decide the fates of the following things: the planet, life on it, democracy, and freedom. The next three thousand days will decide the fate of human civilization.

Our existential threats right now are the greatest ones in history. Yes, really. Climate change and mass extinction, to name just two, make yesterday’s seem small in comparison. They’re so vast that they’re head-spinning. We don’t know how to process them. They make our hearts pound with an unknown grief and a new kind of sorrow. And yet we barely have time for our feelings. Because our great existential threats will either be defeated this decade — or they will rise like a many-headed monster, a hydra, to overwhelm us, reaching a point where they probably can’t be defeated at all. Tipping point. Breaking point. Turning point. Judgment day.

And of course just like so many before him, every one of them functionally insane, he has the answer.

He's even given it a name.  Social Democracy.

Let's cut the crap right here and now.  Democracy is two wolves and a sheep taking a vote on what's for dinner.

Any government form or claim that is an alleged "Democracy" is one that should be met with an instant armed revolt and any government official who makes such a claim and is in an actual position of power where they can leverage and enforce that should be immediately imprisoned for their declaration of intent to impose tyranny and death on anyone who is in the minority.

If the laws of said nation does not admit such then your choices are stark.

Democracy is the basic principle that might makes right, specifically, numerical superiority, even by a margin of one, is sufficient to declare you "useless", "surplus" or even food.  It is the worst form of tyranny of all because by definition half the population will be of lesser reasoning ability than the other half and therefore you need only one person, plus that half, to do whatever you wish.  In reality the "sucker" line in most populations is materially higher than the median -- that is, people far better than median in intellectual capacity are subject to being suckered by a good story.

It is rather amusing that this jackwad attributes all of the evils of the world to America, and finds Europe "so lovely." Europe and Great Britain enjoy a position in the world uniquely funded by America, specifically since most if not all nations there have heavily-socialist medical systems.  Without America funding essentially all of the R&D with same said shoved down our throats their medical systems would have collapsed more than two decades ago.

India, China, the Middle East, Central America, South America. All these regions essentially feed American capitalism’s voracious appetite for raw materials, minerals, oil — at any price. What do all these countries and regions have in common? Well, most of them were bombed, invaded, or destabilized by America — to create that global capitalist system. Any time a people wanted another political system — communism, socialism, social democracy — America would invade, and usually, as in Iraq and Chile, install a dictator capitalism could “do business” with.

Oh bull****.

Let me submit this to you -- America has indeed toyed with many other nations, and shouldn't have.  We had no right to do it.  But to claim that we did so in India and China is laughable beyond words.  Central and South America, yes.  What do they have that is of such great value to us?  Coca plantations exporting cocaine?  I get it -- Venezuela is full of oil, for example, but their government is hardly an American puppet state.  To argue otherwise is ignorant beyond words.

Now if you want to argue the Middle East then we have an actual debate.  Indeed we did throw out Iran's elected government at the behest of an oil company, and put the Shah into power.  Guess what -- it wasn't an American oil company.  In fact it was a British firm and it was Britain that wanted it done.  Oh yes, they'll deny it, but it was in fact BP that had been expropriated, not an American owned company.  That didn't work out so well either, did it?  Do you think we installed KSA's jackasses?  Don't think so.  And by the way, while we have certainly propped up Israel, exactly how much oil do they have?

America itself is the bellwether, the prime example: it now has all the institutions of a properly fascist society, as much as Americans don’t understand it or can’t admit it — concentration camps, kids tortured in them, “raids” which terrorize entire cities, dehumanization as an everyday feature of public life, second class citizenship, all the stuff above done by private “subcontractors” for profit and power.

Excuse me?  Where did you get your drugs?

Oh, you're referring to those who attempted to invade the United States?  That's what coming across a border by subterfuge and illegally amounts to.  America has no problem with people coming here through legitimate border crossings and entering the nation with permission under their true intentions.  We welcome to 75 million people every single year into this nation for various legitimate, properly-declared reasons -- including tourism, business purposes, seeking employment under lawful sanction and even entry with the intent of permanent residence and eventually citizenship.

That some smaller number -- much smaller -- choose to jump the line, break the law and declare their intent to be law breakers as their very first act in the nation and that is met with sanction including imprisonment and "raids" to find those who have sneaked over the border and remove them is one of the least-offensive sets of sanctions any nation has ever imposed.  Many nations throughout the millennia have shot invaders on sight and in fact it's any nation's right to do exactly that.  It's our territory, not yours.  Come invited and through ordinary process or accept the consequences of committing a criminal act instead.

 It’s not a coincidence that China’s pioneering a kind of techno-fascism, while India’s made millions of people suddenly stateless, in the throes of an aggressive bombastic hyper nationalism. Both these countries were the key suppliers of America’s capitalist global system, China goods, India services — and both are imploding into fascism for exactly the same reason America is.

Meh.  China and India both are exploiting theft and scam.  Neither has anything to do with the United States, other than the fact that we won't enforce our laws against corporate bad actors.  We damn well should and in fact in many such cases the law already exists.

Democracy should best be seen as a ladder. At the bottom lie nations like America — just a few decades out of being apartheid states, with no real progress to becoming sophisticated democracies at all. At the top lie true social democracies, like European ones, with advanced, cutting-edge human rights constitutionally guaranteed — like healthcare, education, safety, transport, media, income, even dignity.

smiley

Oh, positive rights!

Uh, who's going to pay for them?

That's the problem with positive rights.  If I don't have to work to have income, education, healthcare, transport and media who produces education, healthcare, transport and media -- and why should they?

This inevitably devolves into what ultimately sank the Soviet Union: You pretend to work and I'll pretend to pay you.

Then you go to the store with your "guaranteed income" to buy your guaranteed loaf of bread and..... there's no bread!

Why should the baker show up?  He has an income if he doesn't -- it's guaranteed.  If his kid is sick he doesn't have to go to work to pay a doctor -- it's guaranteed as a human right.  He doesn't have to work to have a place to live, to have electricity, food or an education.  It's guaranteed.

So who provides this "guaranteed" stuff?  What reason does anyone have to actually perform the work?

Second, there is no climate change.  Well, ok, that's not completely true.  The climate is always changing.  We're just not the cause of it.  And, in fact, this planet has come fairly close to the foldback point for low CO2 levels in the atmosphere, at which growth is stunted sufficiently to initiate a negative spiral which will in fact kill every animal.  It didn't happen but whether that's because the buffering mechanisms in our planet are adequate to have prevented it or we just got lucky is undetermined.

But this much we do know -- there's no "emergency" today and there won't be one caused by humans.  In fact it's highly likely that we're entering some sort of solar minimum.  There's not a thing we can do about it, but if we are indeed headed there then the human population of this planet is about to come under an amazing amount of stress and an awful lot of people are going to die.

How many?  I don't know.  We're in far better shape today in terms of being able to technologically resist the impact of cold but we're not immune.  The Little Ice Age killed an insane number of people, with roughly half of the population of Europe succumbing to both starvation and disease.  This was from a temperature decrease of about 3 degrees Fahrenheit on a global average basis -- about 1.5 Celsius.

Today we'd likely fare better in the industrialized world -- by a lot.  But those in the developing world are another matter.  A repeat of the Little Ice Age, which is not only entirely possible it may be starting right now -- we'll know in the next ten years or so -- would likely kill a billion humans on a global basis.

There is not a thing we can do about it if it happens either.

Folks, this man is a dangerous *******.  He's a all-on tyrant wanna-be.  He proposes to give the majority of the population the right and ability to kill you.  He denies pre-existing, pre-political rights entirely in favor of lethal force to allow you take from others. He dangles before you the odious premise that you may have without effort, whether that thing to have is health care, education, housing, food, medical treatment or even entertainment.  It's all yours -- but of course, what this douche-nozzle has not done first is to come up with the ability to materialize any of these "rights" out of thin air.

Since he proposes that you have a right to all of them without having to put forward effort of your own you therefore have no obligation to produce any of them -- or anything else.

You have a right to them irrespective of your will, your effort or ability.

Down this road lies madness and mass death.

In fact every single such attempt has met with exactly the same end.

Indeed, this very premise was part of one of the first Colonies right here in what is now America.  It killed half of the Colonists in the first winter, and had they not abandoned the very principles this man espouses the rest would have likely perished as well.  Technology has changed much in the last 400 years but history shows that every time a governmental system promises positive "rights" the outcome is disastrous.

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umair haque, the wacky Paki vampire.
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least if there was found to be Soros money somewhere behind this bull****.

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Reading his BS I was transported back in time 20 years to my college days, it's amazing how grad student know it all anti-americanism has managed to stay so consistent all this time.

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If there's funding behind some sort of grand plan like article is a perfect example of, I'm starting to believe that the grand plan itself is population reduction on a grand scale.

If it's just the human propensity for ignorance and stupidity, well... future historians will recognize the pattern.

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From Rudyard Kipling, a century ago:

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."
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This guy would have a great future writing apocalyptic fund raising letters for Wayne LaPierre at the NRA!
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Nothing I love more than some ******* droning on about how backwards, uncaring and awful all of us Americans are when he works for an outfit headquartered out of, progressive, caring San Francisco, where people **** on the sidewalks and 3rd world plagues are beginning to spread.

People like him amuse me much the same way I'm amused by subjects of The Queen lecturing us colonists on our gun rights. I'm probably be a little sore about that subject too, considering how our ancestors used their privately owned weapons to chase their ancestors out into the ocean.

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"Tipping point. Breaking point. Turning point. Judgment day."

I wish, because I'd like to live to see it - even if I was killed in the process. If the day of reckoning comes during this century, anthropogenic global-warming won't be the reason why.

In the alarmists' case their proposed cure is worse than the imagined sickness. "Earth has a fever" - Al Gore - "snow will become a thing of the past, something we'll have to tell our grandchildren about..."

Really? Then how come Big Sky, Montana got snow yesterday? Big Sky is a place that I wouldn't mind living; however, I don't want to retire to a place where I have to shovel snow ten months out of the year.. So I wish that Al Gore was at least a little bit right. He's not.

And it's not just Al Gore the Climate *****. One climate-alarmist prediction after the other has fallen into the scientific compost-pile only to be recycled, repackaged and resold back to the dimwitted public as more expensive composted bull**** than the original bull****. This kind of bull**** is what they are shoveling down kids' throat in the public schools. Is it any wonder why kids are so ****ed up in the head?

Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its "Gone By 2020" Signs: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-1....

There are literally hundreds of stories like the one above. So what happens? The alarmists take the bull**** signs down and use people's tax money to manufacture a new bull**** narrative so that they can be paid to post new signs and teach you kids in public school how to be good little ****heads.

Climate alarmism has turned into a perpetual scam that's totally driven by politics, money and a bat-**** crazy mentality.. Something needs to be done.

Please, please oh great and wonderful Mother Nature: I beseech you to cause another Younger Dryas and end the Holocene. Usher in a new age, something akin to the astrological age of greatness that our ancient forefathers prayed for you to do. Please come through for us! It's not too late, oh great, powerful and wonderful Mother Nature. You can still cleanse the Earth with a flick of your little finger... Please fulfill one of the very old Mayan proficiencies and "let the cigar butts of the gods rain down upon mankind from heaven"...



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I went to Medium to read a few of Umair's other articles. Basically his theme seems to be USA = bad and Europe = good. Wow, I've never heard that one before.

Generally I don't throw around the cliche if it wasn't for the USA they'd all be speaking German (or Russian) but I do think it's very clear to anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size that Europe as the ideologues celebrate couldn't exist without the USA.

I'm all for the US becoming very isolationist and letting places like Europe go-their-own. My guess is their socialist paradise will be very short lived in that scenario.
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Jeebus but that has the Dynamic Duo of modern bull****: democracy and positive rights will solve all of our problems. If we just vote enough **** will magically appear.

I have been saying the following for years to some very awkward looks: I DO NOT LIKE DEMOCRACY AND IN FACT I AM AGAINST DEMOCRACY. One thing we in America lucked into thanks to slavery is the Electoral College, it gives the minority some protection.

I had a discussion with a friend last week and I told him that all legislative bodies in the US should be required to have at least a 60% majority to pass any new laws. I said this for the very reasons that Karl expounded on above and more. If you only need 50% plus 1 to pass a law then the new law can be very marginal and most likely benefits less than 50% of the people. If you need 60% plus 1 then the dynamics most likely flip and you are benefiting the majority and not screwing the minority.

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I tried reading that tripe. My breakfast threatened to come back up, so I skimmed it. In my quick skim, I could not find one sentence of truth.

But, hey, its a free country (sort of). He can write and publish that **** and I can tell him to take his lies and shove them up his ****ing ass.

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Jack, I suggest sending Umair a pornographic picture of the prophet Muhammad being buggered instead of telling "him to take his lies and shove them up his ****ing ass".
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Took a look at the website and the other articles while I was there. It doesn't take much scanning of the posts to realize this guy and anyone that believes his drivel/lies is bat **** crazy.

He tries to lure the lazy/ignorant masses or convince his other fellow tyrant wannabes to come join the cause created by his lies. He spews nothing but the most vile of propaganda - lies!

These idiot followers never seem to learn that such tyrants tend to eat their own if the believers' thoughts become "impure" to the group's ways of thinking.

This guy is evil incarnate but the great masses are so brainwashed as to facts and so devoid of real humanity or love of true justice that no sense of right or wrong exists for these people. The mantra is "our ends by any means" or die.

The whole piece is meant to create sense of false urgency - do it now or face destruction- to push the more insane onto their imaginary battlefields and causes of fantasy.






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I'm all for the US becoming very isolationist and letting places like Europe go-their-own. My guess is their socialist paradise will be very short lived in that scenario.
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The author, Umair Haque, is a propagandist / shill, tyrant and oppressor.

Here's a non-exhaustive short list of fundamental, NATURAL rights every animal has on this planet:

1. Right to live. (This mean a person has the right to defend themselves or others if someone tries to kill or physically harm them, but it does not include the right to free food.)

2. Right to be free, including:
- no unlawful arrests without probable cause
- you can't be forced to do anything (no slavery)
- liberty re your lifestyle, including
(a) right to marry,
(b) right to have children and how to raise your children,
(c) freedom to travel (limited by governments to within your own country)
(d) freedom of thought and expression
(e) freedom of assembly
(f) right to privacy in your home and anywhere else where you have a reasonable expectation of privacy


These are all rights that existed before any governing body was ever established.

There are of course other NON-natural human rights we have constructed such as the right to vote and be on a jury (if you're a citizen), and the right to a fair trial (which includes that you're innocent until proven guilty), but the basic fundamental rights are based on the idea that you are your own person and own and control yourself. Therefore, whenever the government/society starts deciding that they can control what you can or HAVE to do with your own body, is when it's time to fight back.


This happens when others are forced to work and produce for others such as now when the leftist/socialists decide by force that they have the "right" to privileges such as shelter, food, education, health care, etc. That's why I think Karl is right that we'll get a civil war in the next 5 or so years because the Left has brainwashed itself into believing that they are entitled to make others work and provide for them, which has worked so far while the money was flowing, but once the economy hits the brakes, and the cash cow stops flowing, then the rebellion from the Left will go into overdrive.

Anyhow, I would appreciate any comments, and if I missed any natural rights (existing before the creation of governments), please let me know.
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Positive rights, which all civil rights are (healthcare, education, et al), always require usurping human, unalienable rights. It is for that reason that I oppose all civil rights. Most people do not understand that positive rights always, 100% of the time lead to tyranny. Ignorance about the distinction between positive and negative rights is the single greatest source of the loss of individual liberty in history.
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I really like the way you think, Fumei.

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I've been struggling to find an adequate response to this guys evil.

I can't.

It's enough to recognize it as evil, and just call the game. Guys like this want us dead.

Come the Flaming Twenties, we'll see who comes out alive.

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Tdurden wrote..

Nothing I love more than some ******* droning on about how backwards, uncaring and awful all of us Americans are when he works for an outfit headquartered out of, progressive, caring San Francisco, where people **** on the sidewalks and 3rd world plagues are beginning to spread.


Yes also probably pontificating from an air conditioned office filled with all sorts of plastic amenities made by "evil" crude oil to mak life easy and soft. Probably has also never done an honest hard days work doing back breaking labor to produce any real tangible new wealth from actual natural resources either. Just another layer of parasite leaching off those that do the actual real work and provide the actual brain power to actually get stuff done.



Click wrote..

Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its "Gone By 2020" Signs: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-1....


Spot on notice how this sort of stuff is never mentioned by the owlgore acolytes either.

https://iceagenow.com/Construction_Crane....
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Vernonb wrote..
These idiot followers never seem to learn that such tyrants tend to eat their own if the believers' thoughts become "impure" to the group's ways of thinking.

Oh, you mean like NOAA just got a taste of? smiley


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Gauntlet33: That is a good list but the most basic phrasing is Life, Liberty, and Property. You hit Life and Liberty very well but you seem to have left off Property.

Is your life really yours if you trade a portion of your life to work for some Property but that Property can be taken away without your having committed a crime? See Civil Asset Forfeiture aka theft-by-the-cops.

Flap

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@Jpg,

Another that I tend to go to from Kipling,

THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.


And so it shall be again . . .

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@Flappingeagle:

Re a "property" right, I originally had it on my list, but took it off the list of "natural" rights because although I consider it to be an important right to be protected, I think it's more of a LEGAL construct from an organized society, and not one from natural law as animals on this planet. In other words, does a bear own a tree just because he marks it first?

Or to put it another way, the law of property rights historically evolved from the capturing and controlling of a given thing. As an example, I own a fish from the wild if I catch it. Or I own the bounded land that I exerted control over (assuming it wasn't previously owned). But these laws are not "natural", but rather created by common law courts in an organized society.
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"Without America funding essentially all of the R&D with same said shoved down our throats their medical systems would have collapsed more than two decades ago."

We also fund their national defense, so Karl, please another 2 decades to their collapse.

I'm sick of the virtue signalers who hate America. I had a big fight with a relative recently. Yes, America made bad decisions with some wars. But the argument requires hindsight. At the time, those wars had good reasons. We are stuck making decisions with imperfect information. We don't get to go in a time machine to see how it will work out.

BTW, I notice people in Hong Kong are crying for our help in the form of a military invasion. I hope these ******* virtue signalers are telling them to fend for themselves against China's machine guns and artillery.
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