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2019-07-04 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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What America was founded on is no more.

Trump cannot "Make America Great Again" because there is nobody willing to actually do so -- including him personally.  His entire campaign on that point was and remains a fraud.

The Democrats are not only not any better, they're worse.  But even that doesn't matter.

The Constitution is a contract between a free people and a government.  It grants specific powers to the government for specific, defined reasons.  Outside of those specific, defined reasons and purposes within the Constitution no act of Congress or the Executive has validity because the federal government does not have that power.

There will be plenty of people who tell you otherwise, but that's false.  You cannot arrogate to yourself that which you do not first possess.

There's plenty of history in this nation, however, of Congress and the Executive doing exactly that, never mind predicating legislation on grounds that are false but even after being proved false said legislation is not repealed; it is instead doubled-down on and screws the people of this nation blind.

If you remember when NAFTA was sold to the American People we were explicitly told that Mexican labor rates would rise to near-parity with American ones within a decade and that the expansion of their consumer market would make the deal a win:win for everyone.  This was the predicate -- the necessary element -- that made NAFTA operational.

That was a lie.  Mexican labor rates are nowhere near parity with America today, and never rose anywhere near parity.  In fact they never rose materially at all, in real terms.  The same is true for China, Vietnam, India and the rest.  All of these so-called "free trade" deals were abject frauds that have destroyed wages for working-class people across America while grossly enriching the directors and officers of corporations, along with some shareholders.

Since the predicates; what you were sold as the reason to allow these "deals" to come into force -- was false the entire agreement is scrap, it was put in place without consent and you have every right to stop it by whatever means are necessary if the government will not throw it in the trash where it belongs, including sacking said government in its entirety.

While it is true that anyone can buy stock you can't outrun the destruction of your own finances this way; to do that you have to be an insider and running the place, which is an inherently tiny and exclusionary club.

Think this is limited to Mexico?  Wrong. Americans sit on their ass despite alleged software engineering being outsourced for civilian aircraft by Boeing to India at $9/hour!  How many $100,000+/year jobs did Boeing not hire people to do in America, by Americans, as a result?

H1bs are another example.  The current "rules" are a joke.  If it's true that H1bs are only for the "best and brightest" then slap a requirement on them that you must pay 200% of the prevailing US-based wage for someone in that job to get one approved and enforce it rigorously under criminal penalty for every single manager, officer and director of a company that violates that law.  Someone who's that good is worth the money.  The truth is that H1bs are all, statistically-speaking, used to drive down wages for Americans and impose crap working conditions because an H1b holder has zero portability since he or she has their visa tied to their employer.  They thus cannot negotiate for raises, for example, under threat of going to work for someone else!

Donald Trump, despite all his bull****, just folded again to the Chinese and continues to allow them to screw Americans out of our technological innovation while engaging in literal slavery to steal jobs.  That son-of-a-bitch is more beholden to Xi and his beloved stock market than he is to Americans and yet fully half this nation cheers that traitorous jackass!

You, once again, as alleged "Americans", don't give a crap.  Show me one candidate among Democrats who intends to put Americans first.  There isn't one.  So who am I supposed to vote for?  Cthulhu -- again?

Never mind health care.  The entire system is a giant ****ing racket; on average it takes in 500% of what market-based prices would be, and in some cases much more.  Virtually all of the health care jobs added since 1970 never provide a single second of care to a single person at any time in their career; they're overhead and nearly all of them are unnecessary in a competitive system.  This entire section of our economy -- 20% of GDP -- is a gigantic scam, fraud and racketeering enterprise and exactly nobody in the political realm will take it on.  There are 100+ year old felony criminal laws that this segment of the economy violates daily and which can be applied now without a single act of Congress that would put a stop to all of this in a single afternoon.

Again, you sit on your ass as Americans while you're robbed of three trillion dollars a year, or approximately $25 per person, per day, every single day.

Do you like being financially raped within an inch of your life?  Apparently so.  What's the difference between sex and rape?  One word: Consent.

How about having your health intentionally destroyed with bad advice so as to ramp up the "need" for said "care"?

The government and "medical system" do that too.  They've lied for decades about vegetable oils and other processed foods.  In fact we just had a company go public that makes a "veggie burger" full of that garbage, some of which is questionable as to its safety.  Said company had its stock price scream higher by 500%!  May I remind you that "vegetable oils" were originally put forward by our government as an answer to war-time shortages of butter and other natural fats?  There was a fairly clean argument of necessity during the war but since that time it's been all about the money and damn your health to Hell.  We know, for example, that if you are Type II diabetic and stop eating carbs that in nearly every case your blood sugar will normalize and your need for medication will be greatly reduced or even eliminated.  Your pants will also fall off, a pleasant and desirable side effect.  Yet instead we pitch to you the ability to remain fat, diabetic and take meds that ultimately never actually work as they simply mask symptoms but are both expensive and allow the disease to progress, debilitate and kill you.  When you wind up needing insulin you will pay more than 10 times the price of the same drug, made in the same factory, and available over the counter in Canada.  All of this is done in the name of money and every bit of the collusion and price-fixing is a criminal felony.

Again, you sit on your ass America instead of rising and telling the government to cut that crap out or else.

The record shows that even in non-interlinked places, where global supply chains and stupidity are not in play (such as our power grid that could be crippled by as few as 1,000 uncorrelated individuals) a mere 3.5% of the population deciding it's had enough is sufficient to win.  And that's without violence of any sort -- simply take to the streets, boycott and protest on a national scale and it's over. Consider what would happen if ten million Americans descended on Washington DC and refused to leave, choking off all commerce and government activity with a throng of people that were there each and every day.  The government would have no choice but to fold; the alternative is that it literally starves.  That's the history on a global basis.

But in the US that critical mass is a much smaller number, simply because so much is interconnected.  While 3.5% is certainly enough and if non-violent trying to stop coordination of such a movement would risk a literal immediate shooting war if even 1/30th of that number as were a much larger percentage in 1776 it would also be over.  In fact I argue that it would take just 0.1% of the American population who decided on an uncoordinated basis that all of this bullcrap was going to stop now to permanently end it.  The government at both state and federal levels would have no choice.  330,000 dedicated Americans who were willing to put their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor on the line would cripple the government's and private industry's ability to do anything about it.  There would be no option other than to comply with the Constitution; there is neither the manpower, will or prison space to do otherwise, nor, with the exception of a very few (like the President) are politicians and business leaders willing to live in a permanent bubble, not only for themselves but also for everyone who they care about in their direct and extended families, to provide even an illusion of so-called "security."

The fact is that America no longer deserves to exist.  That we cannot manage to muster even 3.5% of the people to engage in non-violent but forceful protest and mean it to put a stop to the wanton and outrageous admission of death into this nation by illegal invaders, the plunder of the people by the medical scam and the presentation of facially-ineligible candidates, never mind the blatant and outrageous monopolist garbage in offshoring and displacement riven through the entire tech industry and more argues that whatever drove the Founders in 1776 to devise the Great American Experiment has gone extinct.

There is no reason to celebrate anything this July 4th, and thus, there will be no flag on a pole at my home today -- or ever again -- for as long as what made this nation exceptional remains absent.

You choose.

I know what you'll choose.  It'll be a beer and some burgers.  Enjoy the buttsex that comes to you daily -- you've consented as the Founders roll in their graves.

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Keenan
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..a mere 3.5% of the population deciding it's had enough is sufficient to win. And that's without violence of any sort -- simply take to the streets, boycott and protest on a national scale and it's over. Consider what would happen if ten million Americans descended on Washington DC and refused to leave, choking off all commerce and government activity with a throng of people that were there each and every day.

We Americans are put to shame by the commitment demonstrated by residents of Hong Kong in their recent expressions of dissatisfaction with their government officials.
And, whatever one might think of the "yellow vests" and their cause, they too show much more commitment than do our American countrymen.

I'm with you on the flag. No stars & stripes for me either. If one wants to hoist a banner consider flying the First Navy Jack or the Gadsden flag.
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every time we speak up; every time we expose the official deceptions and lies of the Criminal Class running the Country we're celebrating the 4th of July. more than a few bank tellers, grocery clerks, gas station attendants, nurses and mds, teachers, college kids and profs; strangers or acquaintances have heard my off the cuff critique on the Medical/Pharmaceutical scam.
has it been a waste of time?
20 years ago they just rolled their eyes and looked for the closest exit. these days they're not rolling their eyes anymore. so, maybe the casual well-placed remark does work.
screw the fireworks. exercising the First Amendment Right of Free Speech where it matters provides bang enough.
Happy 4th !
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Keenan - pretty soon you'll have to fly the hammer and sickle or face the gulag.
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I'm quite sure what follows will be unpopular, some might say seditious or even blasphemous, but being an INTJ, I'm quite accustomed (still don't like it) to adverse reactions when I vent and pop-off in public and private, playing the role of party pariah.

Both Spoon and Royce, among others, argued greater than 150 years apart, that what the Feds morphed into was a feature, not a bug. Given the choice, I'd rather be governed by the Articles of Confederation than ruled by the Constitution. A 2009 compare/contrast of the two contracts called The Constitution: The God that Failed (to Liberate Us from Big Government)
by Buppert does a decent job of it.

Since 1980, when I voted, for the first time, for Andersen, I've only wanted less government & taxes and more liberty & freedom; I've only experienced the antithesis. I'm convinced that at least 80% of people want to be either the bosses or the bossed; I want neither end of that bargain.

Although I've acted to starve the clowns, there's remains more that I can do until God takes me away, i.e. putting a halt to patronizing a handful of enterprises that work against my interests. I'm resigned to wait and avoid the herd until it decides to stampede in another direction. I reckon Genesis is right about my talk and walk.

Despite it all, I'm still quite grateful to have been born in the U.S. at this point in world history. Although my material possessions are rather meager, I've lived a charmed life with a higher standard of living relative to the >99% of primates who've entered this mortal coil.


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saw this recently:

"If you want to thank a soldier, be an American worth fighting for."

sums it up nicely and applies to those who will not rise up non-violently to make a change. many who desire the changes discussed here have many reasons to despise their fellow Americans and will not put themselves on the line and risk life, wealth and reputation. many of us who serve and could serve this cause know that many Americans consider us chumps for doing so and would gladly accept the fruits of the sacrifice. this is closely combined with the knowledge by the percent who could make a change that they are protecting a status quo which throws them under the bus when not screwing them to the floor. fix it just enough so that the game can continue in the same fashion or re achieve a historical pinnacle. the Trump philosophy and his devotees are in this camp.

we are not risking it all so that the govt workers, welfare **** (all of it), people who despise producers and hard workers and everyone else currently disenfranchising us can continue their cush govt jobs, keep their do nothing careers, live in safety with subsidized imported products and keep their pensions (Sadly, the Tea Party degenerated to this last item at the end.).

the first person who mentored me in business once said that sometimes one is giving something away too cheap. rise up, some of us want major changes, not an opportunity to go back to work for those who hate us and the feeling is mutual. for now we just wait in the hopes that things will really break badly when those accustomed to hardship and real work and community have the best chances of survival and the willingness to accept death and suffering in peace. the Americans who we are not going to risk ourselves to protect their system fear a collapse much more than us. sometimes being a hero means choosing not to be one. i will not die or suffer so that a liberal can disarm or tax me once again after things get back to normal.

today when i pop a bottle of Champagne, we are celebrating some people who figured out a way to legally get out of the system of property tax and rent while still living in a usually expensive area and say their own little **** you to Amerika.

Today we are celebrating our own little independence day. and you should too.

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All true Karl. Can't help but think of this song... "Coca-Cola, Wonder Bra, and Operation Mickey Mouse" as to what this country is becoming.

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Although my material possessions are rather meager, I've lived a charmed life with a higher standard of living relative to the >99% of primates who've entered this mortal coil.


Something that is easy to forget.

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Despite it all, I'm still quite grateful to have been born in the U.S. at this point in world history.


Agreed. There are an almost infinite number of times and places that I'm supremely grateful to be here instead.

This 4th just makes me want it to be even better - maybe what it once was, definitely what it could be.

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This seems appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JP40LTd....

It makes one want to cry. :-(

Reason: spelling mistake
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Karl, well-fed people don't revolt.

Case in point: South America. The natives didn't revolt under the Mayans/Aztecs, not under the Spanish and not even now (under the descendents of those Spanish). Why? There's ample food in the tropics.

Once the food stops, maybe there will be a revolution. But my feeling is that there will be a collapse well before then.

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Well then I hope you like the red, white and blue dick up your ******* @Phdude.

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I won't bash america or raise another flag. America isn't bad, it's the sociopaths in power. We need to celebrate the constitution, but punish those who abuse or ignore it. Number one on this list would be the media and social media. Not to be a mind reader, but I think Karl and the readers here love america, but hate the selfish bastards who have taken over.

If we are going to mount a successful protest movement, it must have strong values as a guiding principal. It can't just be a scatter shot of complaints. This is what derailed occupy wall street. What ever you think of Trump, making america great again is an excellent rallying cry that brings out millions.

In the book "The Real Lincoln", the author implies that one flaw in the constitution was there is no exit clause. If states were allowed to legally and peacefully secede, it would force the federal gov't to respect their rights.
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Phdude, it is trivially easy to prove you are wrong. Is Hong Kong starving? I don't want to call names on this forum, but your comment seems dishonest.

What it takes is a guiding principal or core value. Like being deported to stand trial in a communist dictatorship that will kill you. Or being drafted to fight in a remote jungle.

A big problem we have here is social media censorship. How do you organize a mass protest, when google and twitter can decide to silence you? Or the MSM will spin you as a white supremacist or other detestable lie. Right now, Trump can get away with this because they are afraid to silence a potus. Let's see what happens in 2020. The project veritas stuff sounds very scary.
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@Robodog: You first voted in 1980? That makes you uh let's see here (counts on fingers) yeah that makes you really phreaking old. How the heck did you get so old? That must have taken YEARS dude! ;)

@Karl et al:

I bear testimony as a real live hot dog guy. You should be ELATED. The whole ball of wax from "keto" to gluten free, no carbs, no bun just give me the meat thing is spreading faster than Jesus. Faster than bacon grease on a hot skillet. If we had anything like this in politics we would have won already. All the sudden we are lettuce wrapping everything from kielbasa to cheeseburgers. Culinarily I think it's kinda heinous. Who really wants a hot dog to go "crunch"? But there you have it. You guys are forcing me to update my menu to accommodate.

Just let that sink in for a couple New York minutes. Our basic menu is an AMERICAN STAPLE. WE ARE CULTURAL ICONS. YOU ARE VIOLATING THE HOLY TRINITY OF HOT DOG, BUN, CONDIMENTS. LITERALLY A GENERATIONS-LONG TRADITION. IS IT REALLY EVEN POSSIBLE TO HAVE BASEBALL AND 4TH OF JULY AND BACK YARD BARBECUES WITHOUT US?

Well you are determined to find out ain't ya? I hope you know that the hot dog guy occupies a space reserved for doctors, lawyers and priests. Everybody knows they can talk to the hot dog guy because our street wise eyes see all. It is known. But unlike Doctors, lawyers and priests, you know that you don't have to be anybody special to love a hot dog. You could just be having a bad moment or a bad day or a bad week or an entire bad life and you count on us to say "yeah, it sure is a bitch ain't it?" Every hot dog cart is a stainless steel confessional booth. The hot dog is your absolution.

Fer chrissakes, they say the liberals are tearing down our traditions and here comes you guys. The entire hot dog industry, representing a not-insubstantial % of our nation's economy, is at stake here. THINK OF THE CHILDREN. No not your children, the hot dog guy's children.

Well in this business we say "if you can't beat 'em, feed 'em" so gentlemen please tell me. Surely there is some kind of tortilla or basically a wrap, maybe Ezekiel bread buns, there must be a way to update this. Lest future generations be deprived of yet another proud American tradition. What is your favorite no-carb work around? How are you cheating this system? Sneaky davils, I know you got something up your sleeves besides wadded cash and gold cufflinks.

And hey if we go down? We're taking apple pie and your gradma with us. Just out of sheer spite. And then every night we sit down and say "great pie grandma, best we ever had" and you guys don't get no pie.

(insert Karls I TOLD YOU SO gif here)
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What the **** is wrong with a lettuce wrap around a dog? The entire point IS THE ****ING DOG! Quit serving weiners that couldn't satisfy a ******ned house cat up its ****; if it won't make a GROWN woman (not a 12 year old girl) cum it ain't big enough around OR long enough! The only reason I want something AROUND a hot dog is so I can hold the damned thing and keep the condiments reasonably associated with it until it goes down my former pie, now fat-laden meat hole.

I can put all the ****ing condiments I want on a lettuce-wrapped dog and it works just fine. ****, I can probably even put CHILI and CHEESE on it; no-bean chili is pretty damned low-carb friendly too.

Now let me get back to my grill -- and the rack of ribs that is slowly smoking itself to perfection thereupon.

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Radiosity - At that point one has the option of going along with the program or going feral.

PS - No hard feelings over the events of 243 years ago.
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PS: The ribs were good.

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My kids aren't doing anything low-carb, but they prefer their hotdogs with their hand wrapped around them. They don't care for anything else on or with them.

I think they're weird, but I'm not going to argue about it. :)

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I probably should have phrased my position better. There are two types of revolutions along the ages: the principled revolution (i.e. the American one) and the peasant revolution. The latter is very much correlated with hunger, or lack thereof. What I am saying is that, for better or worse, I consider the principled revolution very very unlikely.

Also note that I am not happy with the conclusion either; I think the US is going down the drain rapidly but I also don't foresee another 1774.

The people in 1774 were individualists, that came here after months of travel on wooden ships, that endured famine, harsh life, persecution at their former countries etc. Basically it was a people that was accustomed to hardship and desired freedom.

The people in the US 2019 are deeply divided, "diverse" (note: multicultural empires always fail), lacking in social cohesion, infatuated with $, eating poisonous carby crap. But, they are well fed, they are well entertained and they live, at least at first glance, very, VERY easy lives, compared to even 50 years ago. They are basically late Romans of the Imperial Era, when "Roman" had lost its meaning (citizenship was sold), but the "Romans" were well fed, well entertained and had outsourced their military to barbarians.

Early Republic Romans fought with sincere devotion for their country. Late Imperial Romans were fleeing to the south of Italy as barbarians were pillaging Rome & were bribing their way through. I see the parallels, and the Romans aren't the only ones that went through that cycle, but they're the ones that the US mostly resembles.

All I am saying is that history is against us. Hardship and the desire to be better leads to greatness. Free stuff, affluence and luxury leads to decadence. It's very very hard to stop the downward spiral.
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"Free stuff, affluence and luxury leads to decadence."

It's Mouse Utopia on a global scale. And many behaviours we're seeing are pretty much identical to those seen in the mice.

Free stuff kills. Not just individuals, but entire societies.
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In the book "The Real Lincoln", the author implies that one flaw in the constitution was there is no exit clause.

The exit clause is the 2nd amendment.

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Or the MSM will spin you as a white supremacist or other detestable lie.


The MSM can simply put "allegedly" before any claim and absolve themselves of responsibility for the truth.
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On the 4th, I don't celebrate the country; I mourn all the young boys who gave their lives for a country that would break faith with their sacrifice.

I watched The Fighting Sullivans.

My boys will never serve. What, die for Thurston Howell Inc or a bunch of hipster douchebags so they can have cheap Ifags?
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I think "without any other economic collapse problems" this will ultimately sink the USA. The core stops supporting because what was worth supporting no longer exists. I know none of my kids are going in the military, and if anyone asks I recommend the same.
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