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It's About Damn Time: Clarence Thomas
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I was wondering if we were ever going to have a conversation about the impulse that actually led to Roe -- the intent of the founders of organizations such as Planned Parenthood, for example.

Margaret Sanger, the organization's founder, was a raging racist and eugenicist.  She wrote in 1921 that "The unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit' is admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization."  She went on to state that "The most-urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."

Sanger publicly deemed blacks as defective and degenerate.

She wasn't the only one.

The firm's President in the 1960s and 1970s openly endorsed abortion for eugenic purposes.  This is not supposition; it is fact.  Planned Parenthood has deliberately placed its clinics in minority communities; nearly 80% of them are there today.  Had the organization at any time to the present materially changed what it really thinks that would not be the case.  Nor would it be the case that in many parts of cities a black fetus is eight times more likely to be aborted than a white fetus in the same metropolitan area.

Note well that Sanger was not just the founder of Planned Parenthood; she also was the driver of the modern birth control pill, although she herself was not the discoverer.  Instead she prodded others with pharmaceutical and medical knowledge to develop and test it.  Much of the testing was done on women in Puerto Rico; these tests were infamous in that the women were told it was a trial to treat menstrual disorders and were not told it was experimental.  In addition the dosage given was not small and increasing (as one would expect from a trial) to find an effective dose; instead it was massive, many times that necessary.  Finally, the man who bought the trial to Puerto Rico, a Proctor and Gamble heir, was a eugenicist himself who believed the native population of Puerto Rico -- along with others living in poverty -- should be wiped out as "defective" to make room for more "fit" members of the population!  Gamble was also heavily-invested in the policy of the time that "encouraged" women to undergo sterilization, many involuntarily after their second childbirth.  The coercive and eugenic nature of these trials, nearly akin to a "lab rat" sort of mentality, is the history of both the pill's development and Planned Parenthood itself.

The Supreme Court reversed the Circuit Court of Appeals on the question of an Indiana law that required fetal remains to be treated with the same respect as any other human remains, finding that there was a sufficient interest and that the post-abortion disposal of same via means accorded to human remains did not burden the procedure itself.  But it refused cert on the larger question in the Indiana Law, which is whether or not abortion for purely eugenic purposes; that is, to select for race, sex or disability was within the right of a State to regulate.

Justice Thomas, however, wasn't going to let the court's refusal to hear the case happen without comment.  And comment he did in a blistering set of commentary, including direct attacks on the Supreme Court's previous record in this regard in that the court has upheld specific eugenic laws as recently as the 1920s.

It is perhaps with some irony that I note certain other groups, specifically many parts of the Muslim faith, have explicitly endorsed the exact opposite; that is, intentionally infiltrating a nation or region and screwing like rabbits, indoctrinating all of their offspring into their particular views with the goal of overthrowing existing secular legal structures.  Eugenics, you see, has an opposing side and is equally useful as a weapon.  Indeed, the Democrat and Republican parties of today intentionally permit uncounted hordes of "migrants" to come into our nation unchecked with the full knowledge that they reproduce at a rate several times that of both white and black Americans.  While they are not doing this so much to "overthrow" the government they certainly believe they can coerce votes out of the progeny of these individuals, who once born here are citizens.  Leaving aside the welfare handouts their logic is clear: Would you vote for a politician who promised to deport your mother?

The problem with such a policy is that when you destroy all of the incentives for nuclear families and the promise of a better world for one's children but only in a way that can be understood by people who have the available mental cycles to think in a forward manner you eventually destroy said society.  Statistically speaking the people who reproduce are either those with nefarious intent or who lack said spare mental cycles as they are spending all of their time and effort attempting to survive.  It's hard to address those problems but it's real easy to create dependent populations; destroy the incentives for two-parent, one-earner family homes and for those below the top decile in ability make the single-earner home impossible to maintain while at the same time give strong incentives for divorce and out-of-wedlock births -- both through explicit policy and law along with social presentation of this being at least an "equal" if not superior choice.

In an economic system where "growth" must always continue due to never-ending leverage increases (which, incidentally, are always and forever found in the form of a federal deficit) you quickly run into trouble because you cannot compel people to reproduce.  If the high achievers will not do so willingly it will not be very long before both population and GDP start to decrease -- and that's the end of the myth of "permanent economic expansion."   Therefore the easy way out, irrespective of the rhetoric claiming to not support same, is to let illegal invaders by the millions come in smug in the knowledge that even if their distribution of intelligence and drive is approximately as good as native citizens the lower 50% will outscrew the native population.

The problem is that it's a short-term answer in that since those people cannot produce at a level exceeding their consumption in a nation where things like education and health care are cranked up to 500% of their natural, market price every one of these individuals adds to the deficit spending and eventually the system folds back and collapses.

This decision should become part of a larger conversation -- including the above on immigration and the extraction, extortion-based economy we now have.  Keeping that conversation from happening, however, is critical because if you were to openly tell people you intended to hose not just them but their kids too they might decide they've had enough of that crap and do something about it.

Congress knows this as does President Trump.  They just both think they'll be out of office before it happens, or at least that they can blame someone else.

You, however, and your children are the ones who will get the shaft and you can bet the larger implication of this decision will not be taken up by anyone within the media nor government itself.

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I have been on the "we have enough people in the USA" bandwagon for years. My thoughts are that we do not need more laborers, what we need is less welfare and to only allow immigrants who have something special to offer into the country.

On top of that, I agree 110% that we need to fix our system so that one person can work, typically the male, and the other can stay home and raise 3 or 4 children.

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Flappingeagle - The population within the borders of the United States is pushing the lower level of what was considered normal world wide population before Al Gore invented the internal combustion engine. Meaning the 350+ million we currently house within our borders would have pert near matched all those roaming around our planet just 200 short years ago.

We certainly need less...Far, far less welfare. Welfare should begin at home and IMHO for the most part end there too. If friends, family, charities and churches want to be kind to others - GREAT!!!! Let them, but not the state. And only people who want to assimilate and have something to offer should be considered for immigration status. And that should be considered a privilege not a "Human Right"

However before the engine we needed laborers and a lot of them, but the population was held in check because only so many people could eat at one time.

Sadly our open border policy is inviting useless eaters from around the world to flood in. They have no respect for our culture or way of life and some of these people believe it is the job of those they label "infidel" to pay tribute to them - So welfare is expected as they crank out more and more useless eaters.

Even more sad is family planning has been taken away from the family. Women no longer need to choose smartly before opening their legs, cuz Uncle Stupid has their back, by making everyone pay to raise that child. Or the woman can simply choose to get rid of the child. Neither the male or female need to be responsible for the most important action in their lives - Having a family.

Add on top, the fact we are a debt based
nation where things like education and health care are cranked up to 500% of their natural, market price
and things get wonky real fast.

In the end most people are just laborers, who want to raise their family and be left alone. But our system of constant debt has forced upon us an economy that robs both ends. And this wont end well.

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When asked about their donation only being used to abort black babies:

"...if you wanted to designate that you wanted your gift to be used to help an African-American woman in need, um, then would certainly, um, make sure that that gift was earmarked specifically for that purpose."

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How do we rein in the extraction economy, so the bottom 90% can live on one income? The problem is no politician wants this to happen on his or her watch. Just for health care it means an end to millions of jobs and the votes that go with them.

It has to happen, though, otherwise it will be forced upon us by a crash.
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I'm amazed that liberals scream about saving the planet, yet they don't talk about population control. Higher population is the root cause of every environmental issue. Habitat destruction is all about more housing, jobs, farming and mining. Pollution is the waste created by an ever growing civilized society that needs energy, fertilizer and other chemicals. Population is another exponential growth curve, and we all know what eventually happens with those.

How do you scream about CO2, yet want billions of poor people to get rich and buy cars? I think we can call this is another intentional lie.
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end welfare completely, end these problems immediately. how many South Americans would come here or stay if already here if there were zero handouts and subsidies. not even the cash that they send home would make it worth it. their American born children would also leave with them for the same reasons. many Puerto Rican families were four generations on full public support before the descendants became economically self-sufficient. and these descendants will still vote left which was the political goal. Eastern European single mothers would also leave and go back to home country. thousands have come here pregnant over the years since the fall of the Soviet Union. the Chinese are into this too. maybe the HB1 folks have the same plan, just never marry the mother. that is how it works; the Puerto Ricans can tell you that.

a lot of whites like abortion as it makes them feel that something is thinning the herd. sadly without the destruction of the black family via welfare and their dislocation due to federal interference in the South and the constant importation of unfair competition for them they were a dignified, hard working people with strong values, some sadly forged through hardship and injustice, but would have arose to stability and a solid functional class within our society. we lost the chance for two distinct races to demonstrate that they could cooperate and thrive. this would show that the system as intended by the founders would allow differing people to live in peace and support common ideals while preserving their cultures. the American experiment was made a failure.

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Whitehat wrote..
. . . common ideals . . .
I think this is THE key. In the past, this was the major factor in causing "foreigners" from different countries/cultures to turn into "Americans". They retained many of their differences for many generations but still shared "American" ideals.

As you write, gov't policies (as well as race/ethnic/victimhood hustlers) have resulted in the development of different ideals and life goals for various groups. The best illustration of this, IMO, is when those claiming to be "leaders" or "role models" of the black community tell black kids that if they work hard and do well in school they are acting "too white" and are betraying their race/"culture". The fact that black parents and the black community at large don't immediately vilify and destroy (figuratively and perhaps even literally) those spouting such nonsense indicates to me that the rot runs deep and will be impossible to fix for many generations to come.

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