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The insanity is on full display this morning.

Last night I read the shooter's "manifesto" on Scribd, all ~80 pages of it.  This morning it has been scrubbed.

Book-burning is alive and well among so-called "progressives."

I can make a fairly-clean argument for yanking the so-called "live stream" -- but what is everyone afraid of when it comes to written words?  Is someone (or lots of someones) afraid that perhaps there's some truth embedded in what will be viewed as an expression of insanity?

That's something to think about because there was truth embedded in that document.  Among the truths was that Anglo-Saxon culture and people are being slowly exterminated by their own hand; they simply are not reproducing at a rate sufficient to replace themselves as they get older and die.  That's fact, not hyperbole.

In addition there was the fact that the "migrants" that are so "welcomed" by various factions in the United States and elsewhere have many more children than required to replace themselves.  Math is an ugly bitch according to many I suppose; it bears no animus, it has no political bent and it cannot be dismissed as "racist."  It just is.

Then there's the fact that the entire western world has established a welfare state and in combination with open borders the producers are decreasing every single year while those who consume far more in tax resources than they produce are increasing.  This is,once again, mathematical fact.  In addition the end game of such a system is also mathematical fact and easily visible.  I've pointed it out repeatedly in these pages as well; does that make me a racist?

And finally there is the fact (not mentioned, however) that it's our fault that we set the table and opened the door.  "We", being Americans, Europeans and similar.  If I build a pool and do not fence it, then a child falls in and drowns, I'm the one who gets tagged for an attractive nuisance even if the child was old enough to know he or she couldn't swim and thus the water was dangerous and even if the child was also old enough to know that they were trespassing and thus committing a crime by being there.

Doesn't matter -- if I put out a buffet and then people take all the food I'm the one who set the table.

The insanity of what we're seeing from the left is on full display.  Al Gore just said "climate change will destroy civilization" yet Al Gore supports unlimited migration, open borders and people screwing like rabbitsSince more people means more resource consumption you can't have this both ways; if you really believe that "climate change" can kill us all then you can't support any subgroup of people that breed at materially above replacement rate because the outcome of such a policy is mathematically certain.

The shooter's manifesto also contained two other nuggets of truth nobody wants to discuss, and thus it must be buried.  First is that in the US as soon as Texas flips to blue there will never again be a Republican President.  Ever.  That's the Electoral Math -- and it's indisputable.  The fact that those who come here illegally, and they number more than 10 million, produce far more children than native people do will inevitable flip said state is inconvenient, but factual.  Now couple that with what we have today coming from the Democrats in terms of professed policy and you have what I've written about many times: There is no reason for a producer today to produce.

I can, with a lot of work, earn a mid-six figure income.  I've done it before and have the tax checks and Social Security and Medicare earnings and tax records to prove it.  When Obamacare passed I said there was no way I'd do it again so long as anything approaching that remained on the books.  Why?  Because I produced and many more than my one person got what I made without producing anything.  It was taken from me under threat of being imprisoned or shot and I got nothing back out of it.  I certainly didn't get a stronger, better society -- I instead got people who won't assimilate into America, who demand Sharia Law in the US and who call me a racist *******.  They break every ****ing law in the book and in turn get "sanctuary" from law enforcement while those who are citizens get jailed.  I'm told I must cover their housing, medical care and food -- or I go to prison.  Among the illegal invaders there are millions who refuse to follow the rules in America; it's why "uninsured motorist" coverage is so damned expensive, never mind who's running most of the heroin and fentanyl into this country.  If caught the cops let those people go even if they hit someone and cause injury or worse; if I, on the other hand, do not have car insurance, drive and get caught I go to jail.  Colorado prosecuted -- twice -- a baker for refusing to make a gay wedding cake (and one celebrating "transition"); he beat both after much effort by proving that the state came after him because he is religious.  Walk into any of the Muslim bakeries in Dearborn MI (you can't walk a couple of blocks there without finding one) to demand a gay wedding cake -- you'll be told to pound sand and get the **** out of their establishment.  These are people who believe gays should be stoned to death or thrown from high buildings -- their "religious beliefs" -- and yet none of them have been harassed, closed down or prosecuted.

I'm not supposed to "discriminate", in short, under pain of being called all sorts of nasty names or even arrested yet those who come here illegally or for the handouts not only can discriminate they do on a daily basis and not one single bad thing happens to them.  Ever.  We even elect them to Congress and let them spew tropes that have been used to spread hatred for decades, even centuries without a single word of rebuke.

Then there's the other nasty truth that was demonstrated last night.  The shooter's manifesto proclaimed that part of his intent was to foment a civil war over the 2nd Amendment here in the United States.  You can bet the left will seize on this shooting and further his agenda.  You can also bet that the citizens of this nation are too ****ing stupid to realize the obvious, although if you find and watch the livestream of him mowing down people in that mosque (yeah, I've seen it) what will be instantly obvious is that had just one of the attendees had a pistol and hid around a corner he could have nailed that son-of-a-bitch right in the head and put a stop to that crap.  But.... you see..... there is no 2nd Amendment in New Zealand and everyone inside the mosque was unarmed.

Well, the first mosque anyway.  In the second it appears he encountered someone who was armed and chased his ass out of there.  Go figure.

The left wants to make you equally able to be shot right here, right now, in America and the people of this nation are too damned stupid to tell them all to pound sand and mean it.

If that's not enough Muslims bombed a Philippine Catholic Church in January, murdering 20 people and injuring 100.  Where was the wall-to-wall press coverage?  Religious terrorism aimed at Christians isn't less heinous than that aimed at Muslims...... or is the truth that one is ignored by the media and politicians in DC (and possibly even quietly cheered around the office watercooler) while the other is condemned?

I could go on but what's the point?

If we start asking too many questions about whether mass-murder is ever excusable we wind up in some pretty nasty places -- and thus we can't have that discussion and must bury both printed word and live video.  I put out as Exhibit "A" of our national insanity Newt Gingrich who just yesterday put forward the statement that our military should remove Maduro, in a sovereign land, and in an operation that will inevitably involve mass-murder with a body count higher than what just happened in Christchurch.

Never mind that William Barr, our AG, just said the threat of political and religious violence is real and we must remain vigilant against it.  Does he intend to indict -- or at least rebuke -- Newt?  Or is his statement of contempt and vigilance only apply to the times when he likes the targets of said political and religious violence?

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The more "censorship", the attention *****s will become more extreme, and there will be more of them.

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I'm still stewing on this but one firm opinion I had as soon as I saw the video was that *THAT* is what people need to be shown when they question the 2nd amendment.

That was just a slaughter house.

[Edit: Oh, even more important - an armed man apparently is what stopped him at the second mosque.]

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Yeah, I can make a pretty cogent argument that said video should be required viewing in every school in America.

If you don't get why the 2nd Amendment must be restored to its full force and effect right ****ing now after seeing that you're too stupid to live long enough to reproduce.

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The Tarrant manifesto had already been scrubbed when I got up this morning, but I was finally able to locate a copy. I'm only about 10 pages in, but he points out many painful truths about how the West is slowly committing suicide. TPTB definitely don't want anyone getting red-pilled by such subversive thought. /sarc

I introduced a FB friend to the Unabomber manifesto a week ago and she was totally fascinated by his writings regarding leftist indoctrination of the country. She is a well read person and I was surprised she had never heard of it as there is no problem finding copies online. An indication of how quickly things go off the radar in our short attention-span society.
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Yeah, I managed to get a downloadable copy of the manifesto..... Scribd, of course, removed it by the time I got up this morning.

I also found a copy of the video but won't share the link since it'll disappear immediately if I do...... I'm looking for a way to download that (video containers are a bit tougher to grab than a PDF file.)

Never mind -- found it as an MP4 file and grabbed it.

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Yeah, I managed to get a downloadable copy of the manifesto..... Scribd, of course, removed it by the time I got up this morning.

I also found a copy of the video in a place where it's a straight MP4 file and downloaded that too.....

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https://archive.fo/0s2Cj archived copy of the manifesto.

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Carl,
Please edit previous post to read "Atlas Shrugged meets 1984"
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I also read the Manifesto, "The Great Replacement".

As I've already said thousands of times: getting out the gun isn't going to solve our problems. Real education is what solves problems. Absent education no amount of killing shall solve the problems. Frankly, killing people is a complete waste of time, effort and money, if those who remain alive are a super majority of ignorant lovers of collectivism.

Anybody with half a brain who has been to New Zealand (a stunningly beautiful country) or Euroland (and he said in his manifesto he was in Euroland) should understand that New Zealand is a politically lost cause --- and so is Euroland. The Prime Minister of NZ, Jacinda Ardern, is a Marxist hell bent on destroying one of the most beautiful places on Earth. The population of New Zealand is doing to itself what the Land of Golden Opportunity (California) did to itself --- commit political suicide.

Collectivism is the enemy, and ignorance is the enabler. Personally, for me, it has nothing to do with a person's skin color and everything to do with whether or not a person is a producer or a human leech. And what offends me is when I see tens of millions of human leeches invading The West and sucking up WAY MORE resources than they or their dimwitted offspring will EVER contribute.

For me, it's not about the color of skin as much as it is about the underlying genetics (low IQ) and their incompatible religious beliefs and their backward-barbaric culture and their barbaric, religious yawp and their not being able to support themselves and assimilate.

"The Great Replacement" is happening. But in my opinion that young man should not have got the gun out. It's just not the right time or the right place for that. What he should have done is move to Hungary and lived among people who treasure white culture and Christianity. Then he should have written and been an activist for the preservation of white culture.

Hungary is the model to follow. And to any young man who is contemplating getting the gun out, I say, holster your weapon and wait for the West to collapse of its own Marxist weight. You don't have to leave your home country, if you don't want to, you just hAve to wait. Timing is everything. The AOCs and Jacinda Arderns of this world are going to collapse the system when they run out of other people's money. Then they'll be a window of opportunity for real change.

Finally, if and when there comes a time to get the gun out, don't waste your time by killing 40 or 50 of the ignorant masses. When the moment of truth arrives, aim for the leaders or do something that'll shut down a major Lefty city.

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This guy is a left winger. He spent last year in Pakistan hanging out with imrans.

Here is a quote from him:

"Yes. For once, the person that will be called a fascist, is an actual fascist. I am sure the journalists will love that. I mostly agree with Sir Oswald Mosley's views and consider myself Eco-fascist by nature. The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People's Republic of China."
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Click, interesting that you mention Hungary. I have some Hungarian blood, and so have studied a bit of its history over the years. Hungary (and also Poland, BTW) has always been somewhat at odds with the rest of Europe. Over the centuries, every time Islam started to creep up toward Europe, the rest of the countries would preach tolerance and forbearance. But every once in awhile Hungary would say "**** that, time to kill some Muslims" and do the work no one else in Europe wanted to do. All of Europe would benefit, but Hungary would remain the pariah. Then the cycle would repeat.
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Below is from Australian senator Fraser Anning
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"I am utterly opposed to any form of violence within our community, and I totally condemn the actions of the gunman," he wrote. "However, whilst this kind of violent vigilantism can never be justified, what it highlights is the growing fear within our community, both in Australia and New Zealand, of the increasing Muslim presence."
The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place. Let us be clear, while Muslims may have been the victims today, usually they are the perpetrators.


And then....he gets slammed
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The remarks by Senator Fraser Anning blaming the murderous attacks by a violent, right-wing, extremist terrorist in New Zealand on immigration are disgusting. Those views have no place in Australia, let alone the Australian Parliament, Morrison tweeted.

Ex-leader Malcolm Turnbull tweeted: Fraser Annings comments today are contemptible. He is a disgrace to the Senate and what is worse by spreading hatred and turning Australians against each other he is doing exactly what the terrorists want.

Truth has no place in the world today, we are living in sad times
https://www.foxnews.com/world/australian....

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A friend sent me the video on What'sAPP and I didn't know how to forward to my email. This guy was serious about killing everyone and anyone in that Mosque and double tapped a lot of them.
When we see this kind of stuff, you wonder why he is killing the migrants, when it's the politicians that allowed them to come in. The snake's that allow for open borders and protects the migrants from being prosecuted for crimes are the guilty ones. Not a bunch of innocent people praying in a mosque. It seems that they always go for the soft targets rather then the ones that matter. In most of these countries, the gun free zones are literally the entire country. In the UK, you have no right of self defense using a weapon of any sort. They say, run or succumb and they will jail anyone that defends themselves. This is the mass insanity of the left. Every government on this planet is run by these kinds of people and you can't change anything until they are removed and replaced by folks with common sense.
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NZ has very strict gun control laws; all weapons must be licensed and as a non-citizen he couldn't have legally bought it either, if I'm reading their laws correctly.

Of course all those laws do is is turn the intended victims into sitting ducks. One dude (unarmed) tried to rush him anyway (and got killed; he didn't wait until he ran dry and had to reload, which he did several times); apparently, however, in the SECOND mosque (no livestream on that one) he ran into someone who was a citizen and had a pistol -- and was chased out of there. Too bad that guy didn't wait around a corner and plug him in the head as soon as he came around; he wasn't exactly being careful about how he was clearing rooms -- one dude with a weapon or even a baseball bat would have had a VERY good chance of getting him.

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If anyone is having problems finding the video I'll just say one word... Vidmax. I'm not posting a link.

They never take anything down and usually things are on there weeks before they get posted and taken down elsewhere. I'm not sure who thier host is or where they are located but they just don't care. Warning, lots of gory stuff is there. The video is still on the first page. Not safe for work or lunch.
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Though it may be a bit soon, perspective is important.

The late University of Hawaii Professor R.J. Rummel's research resulted in his estimate of murders carried out by really serious mass-murderers...governments.


262 million* souls murdered by governments in the 20th century...the vast majority of which were first disarmed by these bloody governments.



Look now at the various governments, prancing about as if they hold an exalted position above the likes of the New Zealand mosque murderer, as if governments alone should possess effective means of resistance.


*The Professor's estimate does not include those killed in warfare.

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.H....



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One dude (unarmed) tried to rush him anyway (and got killed;


If it's the bit I'm thinking about, where the guy is coming around the corner and gets shot point blank - I think he had his hands up like he was trying to appease him and run out the door, not like he was about to fight. Pretty sure he actually had time to grab the end of the rifle had he been trying to fight...

Not sure though, and not sure that's the bit you're talking about anyway.

Regardless, I can't believe the people stayed piled in the corners like they did.

Slaughterhouse.

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@Asimov - Yep.

Then you have the media and government officials trying to claim "nobody should share or watch this video."

Bull****. Every person with one or more children should make ******n sure they watch the shooting part.

Why?

Because IT MIGHT SAVE THEIR LIFE, that's why.

If there is ONE thing to learn from this it is that cowering in the corner will get you killed. You will PROBABLY die anyway but it is VASTLY better to die fighting than to die cowering in the corner, and you MIGHT stop him.

I only wish there was livestream video of the SECOND mosque, where someone who was there WITH A GUN in fact DID chase his ass out. He didn't shoot him (unfortunately) but THAT would have been amazingly powerful to make ******n sure was shown in EVERY ****ing school EVERYWHERE.

WHEN some ******* wants to shoot you FIGHT BACK and your BEST ODDS are to have something EFFECTIVE to fight WITH.

That means a GUN.

ANY gun -- but a GUN.

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I just watched it...my God, no way to fight back. We will be watching this as a family tonight for the very reasons you spell out.

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I'm glad I read it before it was scrubbed. The media's editing of it and commentary thereto are epic. They are specifically screaming that this guy was a Trump supporter by quoting only the first portion of a paragraph.

Were you/are you a supporter of Donald Trump? by saying, As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure.

They leave out this part:
As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.

So now they're widely propagating the idea that Trump inspired this guy to do what he did.

And there is one other thing they're NOT talking about: The guy also stated that everyone should stop paying taxes that are being used for our own demise.

That's a truth right there too.

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Is there a better quality video available than the 66mb version?

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The copy I have is roughly 100mb in MP4 format

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There are a couple of copies on kaotic. The media does not seem to be identifying the rifle by name and I'm not informed enough to identify it by the video but there is another video on kaotic that documents the aftermath (not fun to watch) and I see what looks like 5.56 casings instead of .233 on the floor which should be bad news for any survivors.
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There are far too many good points and analogies made throughout this Ticker to single out just one. But focusing on the Inventor of the Internet Al Gore and global warming at the same time inviting foreign breeders into our country (Granted this is an entire western issue)

Why? What is the end game?

America has a vast array of natural resource, a good culture, people who generally "want" to do the right thing.

It has been a paradise for just about anyone willing to work hard.

Why take the steps to literally destroy it?

If there truly are people sitting behind the curtain that pull strings, why would they want to take the steps to literally destroy the goose that could continue to lay them golden eggs way into the future.

I truly do not grasp that angle of it.

Yes, people are stupid.
Yes, people act in their best interest.
Yes, people lie, cheat and steal.

But why try and end an entire culture and replace it with one that will destroy them?
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