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2019-03-11 10:25 by Karl Denninger
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Ok, where are all those folks who claim "diversity" is our strength?

Mel Greaves has a simple goal in life. He is trying to create a yoghurt-like drink that would stop children from developing leukaemia.

The idea might seem eccentric; cancers are not usually defeated so simply. However, Professor Greaves is confident and, given his experience in the field, his ideas are being taken seriously by other cancer researchers.

Based at the Institute of Cancer Research in London, Greaves has been studying childhood leukaemia for three decades. On Friday, it was announced that he had received a knighthood in the New Year honours list for the research he has carried out in the field.

“For 30 years I have been obsessed about the reasons why children get leukaemia,” he says. “Now, for the first time, we have an answer to that question – and that means that we can now start thinking about ways to halt it in its tracks. Hence my idea of the drink.”

Mel is, as you might expect.... a white dude.

He noted that -- gasp -- leukemia seems to track with affluent societies.

That doesn't make sense.  Or does it?  He thought it did and it turns out he's right.

First, you need a mutation.  That's not affluence-tracked; it just happens.

But the second part is that you must be nice and clean in the first part of your life -- specifically, the first year.  Which affluent people are, and less-so tend not to be.

In other words you have to get sick in the first year of your life or you're vulnerable.

Then, when you inevitably get exposed to those germs your immune system blows it and triggers a second mutation that causes leukemia.

So now his task is to figure out exactly what you can be intentionally inundated with as a baby, which will in turn confer immunity because the second event never happens.

Meanwhile the nutjobs went down the road of believing that living near power lines was the cause.


Score another one for white dudes, right along with the crapper, mechanical refrigeration and.... yeah.... tampons.

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The first thought I had was this sounds the same as what I have been thinking about peanut allergies. It's basically my nutjob friends who put a ton of effort into not exposing their kids to peanuts in their early years that end up being the most likely to have a peanut allergy.
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You're racist ;)

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Fascinating. I wonder if c-section vs vaginal births make a difference? I know a lot of "magic" happens re: gut/immune stuff during a vaginal birth..

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Over cleanliness can be as much a health concern as lack of cleanliness. We need a certain amount of germs in or system to offset what can get thrown at us in nature.

However if leukemia can be caused by an over sterile environment, I wonder if breastfeeding through the first year/s would/could also slow it. Is the dr finding a cure where nature (God) already provided one?

Interesting findings though and I believe if his conclusion is correct there may be other aliments that can be preventable.

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I would guess breastfeeding would make a difference, also.

It is pretty interesting that over cleanliness can have such serious consequences, as well.

I guess that old saying "You can never be too clean!" is wrong.
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I've been saying for years, "WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER". Glad to know I was right. :)

Also, I haven't seen causation proved here yet (although it seems very plausible), and another possibility is that maybe white peoples' homes has more nasty chemicals on floors from keeping a cleaner home.

In other words, maybe it's better to let the little one pick up that old piece of bread from the dirty floor than having a floor with chemical "sanitizers" and no crubss / food on the floors.
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I noticed this all the way back in college. It was always the people who used hand sanitizer, who were constantly sick, runny noses, coughing. The principle seemed pretty self-evident. Fascinating that it may apply to leukemia too.
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When I worked in food manufacturing, one old Hispanic Doctor used to joke with me that all the farm kids don't get food poisoning.

She said that, knowing my background, I probably spent a lot of my childhood outside around animals. And that I would not be getting food poisoning from stuff that would kill many city folks. Considering my lack of cooking knowledge as a young man, this is why I didn't manage to kill myself by age 28.

She had been born in the US, and spent much of her childhood in the Southwest USA. She noticed that she would be sick more often than her family that were ranchers. When she later went to med school, she noticed that most of the more affluent city folk got sick with everything, and the poorer and farm kids only came in "If something was sticking out or stuck in them". It wasn't just that they refused to go to the doctor, but they really didn't need to. Her goal was at first to bring health care to the communities that needed them in the southwest, but ended up in food safety for those urban areas that were always getting sick.

Sadly, I think she passed last year. Wonderful woman. When my kids were born, she told me "Jack, let them play in the mud! They need that exposure!" She also used to joke that a shot of Tequila would cure a lot of bad stomach bugs!

Both my kids spend time outside and don't get sick as some of their hand sanitizing friends. One had serious complications at birth, but is VERY healthy. Now I am not saying you intentionally give your kids the flu, but letting them play outside is good.
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My 82-year-old uncle rarely gets sick. My aunt told me he always drinks some apple cider vinegar before every meal. It helps to keep the gut healthy which is a vital part of the immune system.
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We used to sled ride down the manure pile, long after snow had melted. I can still see the brown/orange puddles splashing up if I close my eyes. Played outside and swam in the pond all the time. Very rarely got sick and still pretty much that way today too.

Interesting study, because someone on another side of the family was the exact opposite and always sick and running to the doctor and also usually never finished each course of antibiotics. Ended up getting leukemia around middle school, although treatment was successful.

Cue the usual disclaimers about correlation/causation and "plural of anecdote not being evidence", but it does make you think.
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The only reason white dudes come up with all this great stufff is because all the non-honkys are too put down and oppressed to even have the opportunity to come up with such advancements.


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