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2018-06-20 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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The never Trump folks are utterly insane.

Twatter is full of these clowns.  Then again, the other side "whatever he does is fine" idiots are out in force too.

The US is disengaging from the UN's alleged "Human Rights" group.  May I remind you who is on that committee these days?

China -- routinely persecutes, dispossesses and even imprisons religious minorities.

Cuba -- Need we really go there?

Nigeria -- Have you stopped the 419 scams yet?

Rwanda -- You're kidding, right?  The most-recent genocide-committing nation is on the UNHCR?!

Saudi Arabia -- Have you stopped throwing gays off buildings yet?  Oh wait -- you just imprison or execute them, right? It's your other Muslim friends that toss them off buildings.

South Africa -- As long as you're black you have human rights.  Yeah, I know, the other side did it too.  That makes it ok to do it now.

Venezuela -- Are you serious?

Decrying the Trump administration for erecting the middle finger to this "group" is now considered "turning out the shining light of America."

Never mind the well-documented rapes that the UN's so-called "peacekeepers" have committed upon various populations over the years.  That fits right in with "human rights", yes?

This sort of rank stupidity, along with the frothing-mouth nonsense that has been engendered by the media over this and related issues (e.g. the very policy Hillary Clinton announced with regard to kids being used as human shields for illegals coming across the Mexican Border) has reached the point that frankly I'm shocked that there hasn't been a complete schism between groups in America.

May I remind you that such a schism is legal for either side to choose to engage in -- or both for that matter.

Starbucks wants to have its corporate mantra tied to political causes?  So does Bezos?  So does Google and others?

Well now, that could get rather messy and it's all perfectly legal as well.

Remember that liberals were allegedly all for American jobs -- right up until Trump started saying he was going to enforce fair trade principles against nations that screw their people so hard they commit suicide by jumping off buildings, and that if the corporations that profit from same get ****ed for sleeping with said prison-gang governments (cough-Apple-cough) that's just tough ****.

Then you have Mark Meadows who, along with Ted Cruz, are so outraged about families being separated at the border they've introduced legislation.

Where was the legislation when Obama was President?  Or Clinton?  Or Bush for that matter?  The much-passed-around photo of kids on social media is from Obama's time in office, not Trump's.  May I remind you that when you illegally cross a border you're not an asylum seeker -- you're a criminal?  And oh by the way, Congress passed that law originally -- so are you really trying to tell me that the DOJ should ignore laws Congress passes?

Does that include ignoring the law when our government sells guns to drug lords?  Because, you know, Eric Holder did that -- and it got a bunch of people, including children, killed.  If you're so outraged why is that ******* still walking around a free man?

Asylum seekers present themselves at a border and ask for asylum.

Criminals, on the other hand, commit their first crime in illegally entering said nation.

Why do they do this?  Because under International Law and long-standing principles of comity and respect for all nations if you're an asylum seeker you are supposed to present yourself at the first safe nation you reach and make your request.

For 99% of these people that would be Mexico, not the US.

But no!  Instead we have a criminal nation to our South called Mexico that has repeatedly, maliciously and feloniously aided, abetted and trafficked in these people despite allegedly claiming to be a "safe nation" with whom we should trade freely, never mind that they screw their people blind ($3/hour -- and no benefits -- to build cars, eh?)

Oh, and a very material percentage of said children coming illegally via this method into the US are not with their parents.

Do you want to know what happened to them previously?  We practiced "catch and release"; both kid and adult were let go, three to ten percent of them ever showed up for their hearings and most of the children disappeared entirely, never to be seen again or accounted for.

Want to know where they went?  Many were traded and sold into sexual slavery -- as children, since their usefulness as a "mule" to get around US immigration law had expired as soon as we let both them and the adult(s) go inside the US.

We have absolutely no idea where most of those kids who were "caught and released" with the adults they were with have gone -- or what has become of them. While I'm sure some of them are in loving homes it's an utter certainty some of them have been sold into sexual slavery or worse, yes, right here in the United States.  The people running illegals into this nation do not care about anything other than money and leveraging kids as weapons.

This is what the Democrats, Republicans in Congress and all those on Twitter screaming are actually demanding be allowed to be restarted and continue forever.

Let me be crystal clearThere are a bunch of *******s in this country who are demanding the continued systematic abuse of children as human shields and, when they're "used up" for their original intended purpose many of them are not reunited with families since those families are not in the USthey are instead trafficked and abused.

There is utterly no reason whatsoever for any legitimate asylum-seeker to not show up at a legitimate border crossing and make their claim.  Those people are not being arrested because they've committed no crime.  Some are denied entry at that specific moment in time but that's not a crime either, nor does it result in family separation.

It is the unlawful, criminal crossing into the United States that results in arrest and, when you're arrested you are separated from the others in your party, including if present, children.

Go rob a bank and tell me what happens -- you're separated from your children.

Go pull a carjacking and see what happens -- same deal.

Go run a couple kilos of heroin or fentanyl into the country, get caught, see what happens -- same deal.

Go stick up a liquor store and manage to get a whole $20 and see what happens -- same deal.

The difference here is that in this specific case these criminal invaders are intentionally taking children as human shields in a bid to evade arrest, prosecution and deportation.  They are not presenting themselves at a border and claiming asylum.

They are monsters exactly as is the bank robber who grabs a kid and holds him or her in front of them so the cops don't shoot him and everyone who supports this crap are also monsters.

This crap must be permanently stopped and those who support this sort of nonsense no matter whether they're Democrat, Republican, Trumpers or Never-Trumpers deserve to burn in Hell, which is exactly where they're going to end up because they, along with Ms. I-like-raped-kids Bush and Hillary I-never-met-an-intern-bill-couldn't-blow Clinton are in fact advocating for the continued abuse of children, including by human traffickers who use said kids to gain entry into the United States at which point many of them, along with the kids, just flat-out disappear.

Again, let me point out that only somewhere between 3 and 10% of these people, depending on who's stats you believe, show up for their hearings.  The other 90-97% disappear and cannot work at any legal job in the United States.  They all undertake criminal lives to be present and live in the United States as there is no legal way for them to obtain a job, place to live and means of transportation such as a driver license when they abscond from their "asylum" hearing; are you really insane enough to believe that the children with them, nearly none of whom have any sort of documentation proving they are related to the adults, are anything more than weapons to be used in their criminal pursuits?

Maybe it's time for a hard schism in America -- it appears there simply is no way to bridge differences any longer.  There is no "accommodation" to be reached with those who claim that abuse of kids as human shields is acceptable conduct or can be allowed to continue.

I don't give a flying **** what political affiliation you have, or whether you like Trump or not (and those who think I'm some sort of "ultra-conservative" or "trump-lover" ought to go read the last ten years of this column first) if you support the abuse of children for political purposes, and to be clear that's exactly what advocating for letting *******s who cross illegally into the nation using children as shields go free for one second amounts to, you are a ******ned monster and you have forfeited your humanity card, by your own hand and acts, long ago.

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Main Street/Stream Media losing it. Want a better life? Stop watching television.

Trump enforcing immigration law set down by prior administrations is "his" crisis?

Didn't a few of these apoplectics forget to move to Canada?

Hey Melinda! How about a few $B FOR THE CHILDREN? You care sooooo much that you want to forcibly extract wealth from those working to rise up, how 'bout you build a few nice facilities and put endowments in place to fund more courts and judges and facilities and healthcare, etc... Congress and the Prez move too slowly? Do it yourself! You have the means.

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Illegal Immigration is BIG Business ON BOTH SIDES of the Isle & to "Faith Based Religious" too "Help" for Illegals"..

Karl, you may not like the Site..
Though you really need to read this from CTH, researched & document's are linked & pictured there..

Do a "additional" Ticker on this "research", As the Word NEEDS to get out there too Uninformed Americanius Doofus ..
Blinded by the MSN, Or shall I say LIED TO...

Illegal Immigration and Lax Border Controls are The Epicenter of The UniParty.
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The problem with Conservativetreehouse is they will talk about anything, but the medical fraud scandal. In fact, you get insta-banned if you even mention it.

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Gee, I wonder who profits from that?

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FlyandDive Opines,
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The problem with Conservativetreehouse is they will talk about anything, but the medical fraud scandal. In fact, you get insta-banned if you even mention it.


Fly&Dive, You Will NOT, get "insta-banned" there, I've brought up this exact Issue Many, Many times, including, (notwithstanding) posting & linking several Karls Ticker's on the Subject..

I'm thinking the Admins, (including Sundance et al)..
Don't have a, how can I say, GRASP, on the subject as a Whole..

Though Admin & Folks there DO have a Grasp on Obama Care, Plus, the fraudulent Nature of it..
I wish they, (Admins) could do/apply excellent research into Medical/Pharma Fraud as detailed, as much as they do in other things..


That said, (I can dream can't I?), that Karl & Sundance would have a Pow~Wow & join forces.. As We ALL are on the same side.. ( Karl, you & Sundance et al, both reside in FL..)

Imagine what a Web site for information, together THAT would/could be..
Karl; BTW, ALOT of readers/members THERE, ALSO are readers HERE..
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Crossthread, the difference is you didn't criticize Trump for flip-flopping on the issue, I did(Karl on here, way more-so than me). I had thousands of posts at CTH, one mention of Trump going back on his campaign promise, and I was gone. That to me is dishonest reporting.

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I agree ALSO Fly&Dive..
Though sometimes It's better to keep My yap shut.. (sometimes)..
THERE Are things I "dis-agree" on Trumps policies...


Then again I might Skip a Day or 2 there, (doing things IRL).. hence No comments..

Just too let you know..
I have mentioned Several Times, (In the comments section), that the CTH has become "almost" Cult-like, in reference to a politicos recent comment.. smiley

I did post what I thought about it.. Recently; and also some Months back..
So that said,, We are getting OT..
I do support POTUS, just NOT in everything..
If you wish Lets carry this too the Bar..
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Like I said Let's Drain the Swamp Together, ALL Americans..
Whether ya like the Orange Cheeto or Not..
It's the best chance I've seen in My lifetime to give the Fed .Gov back to the People..
Thanks Karl, for letting My comments stand With-out the threat of a Upper Body workout..
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"Didn't a few of these apoplectics forget to move to Canada?"

They probably discovered just how difficult it is to move to Canada. Like most countries, our immigration laws suck in their own way (and the Liberals, as usual, are trying to make things worse because they need to import more Liberal voters), but, unlike the US, you generally can't just walk over the border into Canada and stay.
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Uh, yep.

And that's how it should be.

There are things I don't like about Canada, but that's not one of them. Frankly, if they'd have me I might consider it.

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