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2018-06-12 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Live On A Volcano, Expect To Be Destroyed
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This never ceases to surprise me, but the lessons have been known at least back to Pompeii.

Today we can "classify" volcanoes as being dormant, active or extinct.  Sort of.  The ring of fire region of the planet is one where there will be no extinction because the volcanoes there are a result of the movement of the tectonic plates that form the Earth's crust.  Hawaii exists because of this.

As it turns out the Big Island is where most of the activity is, at least in what we consider to be "human times."  People like the climate and the (relatively speaking) more-reasonable price of living near such a natural phenomena.

However, you don't really own land where there is an active volcano within 50 miles or so.  At best you're leasing it from Madame Pele', and throwing a human sacrifice into it probably won't stop it from erupting either.

If you want to live there, go right ahead.  But the rest of us should not subsidize the cost of your insurance, just as we should not in a place prone to earthquakes or hurricanes.  Insuring such property is and should be quite a bit more expensive because when the mass-event happens lots of destruction occurs, including 100% losses not only of the structure (as is the case for hurricanes) but also the entire economic value of the land is frequently destroyed as well.

Old lava flows aren't a terrible place to live -- 100 years or more later.  One or two years later on the other hand they're completely unsuitable for anything human-related.  So when your house gets overrun by such a flow the property is destroyed, not just the structure.

Oh well.

Yet once again we are talking about "disaster relief" funds for the people who built knowing the risk.  Now they wish to fob it off on the rest of us.

Should we test the theory of human sacrifices stopping volcanic eruptions?

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Radcondive
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It (human sacrifice) might work. How 'bout a half-hawiaan/half Kenyan semi virgin? Seems that a "goddess" who loves lava would enjoy that type? smiley
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When I lived in LA it was the same with the maroons who lived on the bluffs overlooking the ocean. If the brush fires didn't burn them out in the summer, the mudslides or Pacific storms would take them out in the winter. Invariably a local reporter would interview some of the poor "victims" and I'd hear them say, "We love it here. We're going to rebuild."

You can't fix stupid, but nature tries its best to remove them from the gene pool.
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Quote:
Should we test the theory of human sacrifices stopping volcanic eruptions?


This happened after Zuckerpig movved there and bought land and tried to run off his native neighbors. Should start with him. If it doesn't stop the eruptions at least it will solve another problem. -lol.

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Mom's house is on top of the 1840 flow and a mile from the current eruption. Nothing coming her way yet, but if the lava lake breaks on the side facing her that could change in a few days.

She is uninsured. She said if the house goes, she will just not have a house any more and rotate between 6 kids for a place to stay until she dies. Doesn't matter of it's lava or a hurricane or a regular fire. She accepts the risk.

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Elkad,

It sounds like she want's her 6 kids to also accept the risk.
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About the only thing I'd support gov help wise is what I've seen them doing to areas still in the flood plain here in CO that got wiped out by the 2013 flood.

FEMA is roughly buying people out and converting the land to open space.

I'd much rather see that in most areas vs $$ to rebuild where you know its just going to get wiped out again in a few years.


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Elkad
I applaud your Mom for refusing to participate .

In the Keys i had a house made of poured concrete, even the roof, so told FEMA and insurance industry to shove it.

I hope she wins this gamble.

If you like to gamble too, you kids might chip in and insure it for a few years while this cycle of volcanism subsides.

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Killben
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Exactly. This is bailout by another name. You were enjoying the house near the volcano when it did not erupt. We were not allowed to partake the feast. It was all yours! So when you are toast why are we brought in.

Once you seek and get a bailout it seems like an entitlement. That is why skinning Ben Bernanke HAS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE a great idea. He has simply made it the norm.
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By not wanting insurance, she can also avoid ever finalizing construction, which has a significant tax benefit as well.
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Say, can we toss Hillary into the volcano? I always wanted to see a volcano puke :-)
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