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2018-06-08 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Can't Buy Weed, But Opiates Now....
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No jail for big pharma.... even when caught knowing their drugs are being used on the street.

Purdue Pharma, the company that planted the seeds of the opioid epidemic through its aggressive marketing of OxyContin, has long claimed it was unaware of the powerful opioid painkiller’s growing abuse until years after it went on the market.

But a copy of a confidential Justice Department report shows that federal prosecutors investigating the company found that Purdue Pharma knew about “significant” abuse of OxyContin in the first years after the drug’s introduction in 1996 and concealed that information.

Bush didn't want to go after them.  Remember that guy?  You know, the President who was very "war-on-drugs" ish?

Yeah, that guy.  He didn't want to jail those guys, and so the DOJ didn't.  They instead took a fine and called it a day, despite career prosecutors being sure they had a case -- and a good one too.

Of course now?

Well, 1 in 5 young people die of opioid-related causes.  One in five.

Now granted, you're not very likely to die at that age to start with, so there's not a big pool all things considered.  Accidents (car accidents in the main) are one of the big killers.  Booze of course coupled with vehicles is a big part of that.  But right up there is opioids.

At the same time we have people telling us how awful weed is.  The latest is the Faux Snooz nonsense coming out of Colorado, where they're all bent out of shape by people running grow houses and then shipping the (very illegal, as it is not regulated or taxed) product to other states (because you can't sell it in Colorado and make any money, you see.)

Of course there's two problems nobody wants to discuss.  Jack Daniels would be very profitable to bootleg if it was double the price in one state over another.  It doesn't happen because it isn't.

Second, however, and far worse, is where the crime and grows are being run from in Colorado.  Listen carefully and you might pick it up -- illegal Mexicans, illegal Guatemalans, illegal gang members, etc.

They're all ex-US gangs in some form or fashion -- so why are they in the United States, and is this really about drugs?

No.

So there's two issues here.  One is that we have a substance that is very deadly and addictive as hell, yet the companies that make the crap and push it -- literally push it, in that one small town had over 400 pills per person shipped there recently, get away with doing it because they're all "legitimate businesses."

On the other hand we have illegal invader gangs from various nations, including Mexico, who we refuse to arrest, prosecute and then deport them.  How do these guys buy and rent property, move money, etc?  How's it happen without someone intentionally allowing it knowing good and damn well they're not here in the country legally?

Getting all those illegal invaders out of here might actually solve that problem; it seems that we don't have many US citizens all that interested in running drugs -- after all, if you want to get stoned just go to one of the places where it's legal! Why take the risk of going to prison for a couple of decades?

When you're an illegal invading gang-banger it's a different proposition because all your crimes are probably free.  You see, these people likely already murdered someone -- and once you do that then all the lesser crimes, and indeed all the following murders have no deterrent effect in the law because you can only give a man or woman one life sentence (or hang 'em once.)  That's a nasty little fact that none of the so-called "law and order" folks want to talk about, but that they refuse to have the conversation doesn't make it any less true.

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Until the Latino Narco Gangs make murdering a cop, judge, Prosecutors, State or Federal Politicians and agents the ticket for membership, nothing will happen.

Murdering a randomly chosen person or a member of a rival gang doesn't get much attention from the Ruling Class.

One of the reasons that the gangs composed of illegal Invaders are so violent is that most of the members have no family.
They left the family behind or were told to leave.

The only social structure they have is the gang. If they are perceived as weak, they are expendable.

Look at the most wanted persons on your local big city police department page.

Odds are that the majority of the suspects are Narco Gang members.

Or, seems like Atlanta Metro area doesn't even acknowledge that problem.

Years ago it was mainly Latino.
Now it is locals with typical names like Shauntavious Demarco Brown...

Doubt you will ever see Justice if you are victimized by an illegal ghost.

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I wrote a paper about this in Healthcare Management 101, while in college. It was 2002 or so. If I recall correctly, the prevalence of the abuse of a given prescription opiate was hugely correlated with marketing spending. A lot was spent marketing for Oxycontin.

I have lost the paper, but the relationship was crystal clear.
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@Supertruckertom - Yep.

What utterly nobody in law enforcement or the political class will talk about, debate or deal with (I've tried all three via attempting to organize public events) is that when it comes to fixing that which is broken in criminal justice you must understand one thing:

Once a person has paid the price of entry into the "I don't give a ****" class via committing a murder there is utterly no criminal sanction you can lay that will have ANY impact whatsoever upon their behavior.

Once someone has done that there is exactly ONE way to deter them, and that is for them to believe you will execute them RIGHT NOW.

This is why "gun control" can never work, as the ONLY deterrent those people will EVER respect is the ability to count rifling in the 100ms before lead is emitted from it. That's the beginning and end of it. This is fact and no amount of "social justice" or "feels" will change any of it. A huge percentage of the hard-core criminal activity is undertaken by people in this group; they will not stop as there is no criminal justice deterrent available to convince them to retire from their activity.

You can only retire them by force.

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And to make things even worse, House Speaker "Lyin' Paul" Ryan is proposing an amnesty for all of these cretins. The Republican Establishment gives prostitution a bad name. At least the *****s in the Old West had "Hearts of Gold." The modern Republicans and Democrats who inhabit the same Establishment sell themselves cheaply and without any remorse.
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I learned that during my brief time polishing floors in Rutledge and Butler PDC.

Thanks to GA First Offender, I got all my Rights restored after ten years.

They are ghosts with no conscience or attachments to people or places.

There are some great Latino men out there trying to defend their families.
These demons move nearly invisibly in the Spanish community.
Imagine having a wife and daughters around that threat.

They live it.
Some I know are very strong supporters of the 2A.


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People like these must be forced into retirement - a cardboard box or crematorium will suffice. This goes double for pharmacy executives benefitting from this activity.

They know exactly where the sales and distribution issues are.....

Well said supertruckertom.

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if weed and all other drugs were legal, what would these gangs do for money? yes, we need to evict these bastards, but is it not interesting that making something illicit criminal created an era of expanded organized crime and now we are going to do it again. do we not ever learn?

one issue that concerns me is that weed might be made legal for certain uses under the guise of the medical model so that something that can be purchased from a store or health food store inexpensively is now an overpriced pharma product with insane margins and monopoly control. forbid that some natural product inexpensively works for people. this is why you see all of the ****ing science with this plant to isolate this or that factor or chemical agent. they are looking for something to patent. can you say prescription drug?

and the above will be fully compatible with all of the federal and state law regarding this plant and its uses. i have two federal licenses that require me to swear that I have not and never in the past used this particular plant. in the future some pharma version will be ok on the forms with doctor approval and a massive cost. would love to try weed or its derivative for my condition as many suggest to do so, but i will not swear to a lie or risk federal offense.

all of the medical advocates and free love weed advocates (not pejorative in any way) are actually helping a new ripoff to be born and do not know it.

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Well, yes and no. One "stopper" for that is for the law to always include the ability to grow it for personal use without interference. Yeah, you can't extract this or that reasonably well in your house (the lab gear costs too much and if misused you can really hurt yourself or worse) but it's trivial to make very edible preparations with the plant, especially if you're low-carb friendly.

Wickard .v. Filburn be damned to hell.

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you make a good point that people who are willing to do evil do not care about doing more. this is part and parcel of a larger problem. there are complete economies is ****-immigrant ghettos in America. these super dirtbags are actually a part of these communities and often victimize their own people as they are the strong men and do fulfill a useful role, notably enforcement, money and consistency. it was this way with the mafias of the early twentieth century. they determined who was in what business in their ghettos and made the ****ed up thing work and punished those who did not go along. this is what you get when you allow these groups to have illegitimate existence here in America. they are fertile ground for these super dirtbags as such are necessary to make it all work. you would be surprised how much property is owned and rented and controlled by illegals, major dirtbags or otherwise. you have a lot of money to invest when you do not pay taxes, have subsidized rent, get welfare and free medical and your family is supported by USA.

there are only two ways to fix this: rule of law where you punish all associated with illegal acts and throw out illegals and let enabling citizens feel the price for their participation, or the one that people hate when said, the elimination of physical cash. before i get attacked for the latter understand that governments have two choices. either they run society by the rule of law or allow disorder and use tyranny to keep it in line. you cannot have both and we are making a poor decision. all of the things that will track you, profile you, photograph you, restrict your movements and make you a walking prisoner are an admission that this is necessary as we let the lack of the rule of law go to far. think of that when you pay your lawn service guy or do business where illegals work and live.

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Tickerguy wrote..
Well, yes and no. One "stopper" for that is for the law to always include the ability to grow it for personal use without interference. Yeah, you can't extract this or that reasonably well in your house (the lab gear costs too much and if misused you can really hurt yourself or worse) but it's trivial to make very edible preparations with the plant, especially if you're low-carb friendly.


it is interesting that many plant products are better in whole form. much like we are not able to isolate the goodness of broccoli or escarole greens in a pill in their entirety we must have the humility as scientists to acknowledge that we do not know everything about nature. whole products often do work better. the isolation process is very useful when you wish to concentrate a factor to increase efficacy or remove a potentially harmful or troublesome factor, getting high in this example.

some form of unrestricted retailing of the whole weed product and associated paraphernalia must be legal to kill to underground economic activity.

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Yep. But all the legalization states thus far have included that. As long as they continue to then the ability to remove yourself from the scheme, scam and "ratchet" game of various "commercial" interests persists.

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