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2018-04-12 08:25 by Karl Denninger
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Read this carefully:

Florida deputies confiscated an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle from an Army veteran on Thursday, and the seizure was the first of its kind under the state’s new gun control law enacted following the Parkland school shooting.

Jerron Smith, 31, of Deerfield Beach, is the first person to be arrested for running afoul of the new law since it went on the books March 9, the Broward County Sheriff’s Office said Monday.

So he did something that existing laws couldn't cover, thus the "new law" was necessary, proper, and good -- right?

Wrong.

Broward deputies sought the order in Smith’s case after he was arrested March 29 on an attempted murder charge for allegedly firing six shots into the back of a car being driving by his best friend, Jackon Lavon, 34.

So he was arrested on an attempted murder charge, bonded out and the judge didn't prohibit him during the pendency of his case from possessing firearms?

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"The newly signed law is clearly proving its worth to law enforcement and the public," Broward Sheriff Scott Israel said Monday after the announcement of Smith’s arrest. "We are thankful to have this valuable tool at our disposal to help keep deadly weapons out of the hands of individuals who demonstrate an obvious threat to themselves or others."

You're a piece of crap and a liar Sheriff.

Those under felony indictment -- and murder certainly is a felony charge -- are already prohibited persons.

You needed no new law but you in fact trumpet the position of those who are arguing for committing several million murders of Americans.  In fact, Sheriff, I bet you'd order your deputies to go commit those murders -- right?

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i know someone that was charged with animal cruelty involving a firearm and they took all his guns pending trial
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So, it appears they used a SWAT team to confiscate the weapons, as he must have bonded out. Now, it seems to me that when you have a suspect in a firearms-related felony, we might be able to get a search warrant and pay his house a visit prior to releasing him from custody?

Just a thought.
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"we might be able to get a search warrant and pay his house a visit prior to releasing him from custody?"

But that doesn't fit The Narrative.
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You don't even need a warrant just make it a condition of his release.

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I guess the SWAT team doesn't get any practice that way.
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Public posturing/virtue signaling.
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Coward County sheriff Israel continues to prove himself to be a ****ing piece of ****.

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Being under indictment doesn't prohibit possession of firearms, at least not under federal law. It just prohibits buying, obtaining, or transporting.
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Being under indictment doesn't prohibit possession of firearms, at least not under federal law. It just prohibits buying, obtaining, or transporting.

A judge already has the power to set conditions on bail; it's done all the time. "House arrest", forcing the wearing of GPS monitoring devices, "stay away" orders (from people, from places, from doing specific things, from having specific things, off the Internet, etc) are all Constitutional provided they are reasonably connected to the offense alleged and the person's appearance for trial.

There was no law needed for this. The Judge probably ordered the release conditioned on this person NOT having weapons in his possession; that's standard in any case where someone is arrested for committing a crime with a weapon. During the bail hearing it is trivial to ask for permission to search your residence for compliance purposes; you can refuse but it's a condition of your release so, if you want out on bail, you say "yes."

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So how did authorities know he owned an AR15? Does Florida have firearms registrations? Did he admit under court proceedings or questioning, what firearms he owned? Or did SWAT just show up with a raid? not enough detail in article. Guy sounds like he's got major issues; put 6 rounds with a Glock into his best friends car over a cell phone? Then gets out on $3000 bond?
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Florida does not -- supposedly -- have firearms registration.

However, if you think they can't go through the bound books at any gunstore, well, yes they can. And if you think NICS data is actually deleted (as required by law) then you don't remember Malvo and the door-to-door searches that happened when he was shooting at people from a modified car.

Gee, how did the cops know which doors to knock on?

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Looks to me like a redo for his previous ****up!

He probably don't understand or realize the full impacts of his actions when this case is being examine under microscope from multiple angles. He shot his foot and is going to pull all those involved with last **** up.

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