Health Fraud? Do the Architects Do It Too?
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2017-09-14 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Health Fraud? Do the Architects Do It Too?
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Gee, what happened here?

Vermont’s Attorney General has settled the state’s claims of fraud against Jonathan Gruber, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor who served as a technical consultant for President Barack Obama and as one of the chief architects of Obamacare.

Under the terms of the settlement, Gruber will no longer work as a taxpayer-funded economic consultant for the state’s health care system and he won’t seek to be paid any money he might be owed, reports the Rutland Herald, a Vermont newspaper.

Note that the Vermont AG also won't go after him under the Civil False Claims Act too.

What did they find?

Specifically, investigators concluded that Gruber sent two invoices — and possibly more — falsely charging the state and its taxpayers for work which was never actually completed by Gruber or any of his underlings.

So they found he billed out work that was never done, or at least wasn't done by either him or anyone that worked for him.

Gruber of course denies committing any sort of fraud, but I'd love to hear his explanation for invoicing someone for work that appears to have not been done.

That would be an interesting exercise that, sadly, we won't get to hear in open court.

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What a Racket...

Submit false invoices to the State for work not performed...

Get caught after submitting the fraudulent invoices...

Tell the State "Never mind... you don't have to pay me for those"

State says: OK... you're free to go...

It makes one wonder how much he did get paid before getting caught. The article didn't say.

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Yeah the guy should be in prison and any person on his staff that took part in this fraud.

My understanding is that he ended up billing more manhours for payment claims than could have ever been physically even worked by his staff.

Looks like he's not as smart as he thinks he actually is. But why not do it again as there are no real consequences especially when the criminal class is protected by people like the Vermont Attorney General.

I can't help but wonder what money changed hands to buy off that AG now.

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Gruber of course denies committing any sort of fraud, but I'd love to hear his explanation for invoicing someone for work that appears to have not been done.

Sadly, it doesn't really matter since lying and fraud are now accepted norms.

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I will let Mel answer this one.


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Lying and fraud is what our "health" care system is built on.

The whole Obama "Care" is placed upon us by congress, the supreme court and a host of regulatory government agencies. The entire thing is built off a lie and the vast majority of medical care is fraud.

What did Grubber do that his handlers didn't want done?

I suspect that heeping Grubber out of court the PTB are attempting to keep the lib on the pot of their own crimes.

They give him a slap on the wrist and a pat on the back, now that is a mixed signal.

The Vermont tax payers (every U.S. tax payer) were stolen from and the AG of the state refuses to go after him.....Hmmmmmm....What else is being hidden?
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How could Bernie have let this happen?

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"Lying and fraud is what our health care system is built on."

As well as dietary / nutritional recommendations and the studies cited:

Sugar Industry and Coronary Heart Disease Research: A Historical Analysis of Internal Industry Documents.

The SRF (Sugar Research Foundation) sponsored its first CHD research project in 1965, a literature review published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which singled out fat and cholesterol as the dietary causes of CHD and downplayed evidence that sucrose consumption was also a risk factor. The SRF set the review's objective, contributed articles for inclusion, and received drafts. The SRF's funding and role was not disclosed. Together with other recent analyses of sugar industry documents, our findings suggest the industry sponsored a research program in the 1960s and 1970s that successfully cast doubt about the hazards of sucrose while promoting fat as the dietary culprit in CHD.
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If we are going after graft and collusion that screws the consumer, how about someone cracking skulls over the 6% commission NAR members charge to drive people around town to see open houses?

Check out spending by the NAR on lobbying efforts. You don't spend that kind of cash unless you get something for it.

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I'd say to let him off is self serving to the powers that be in VT State government. To prosecute means some bureaucrat(s) weren't doing their job of oversight correctly, so it's best to sweep it under the rug as quietly as possible, else expose State incompetency.

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