Wikileaks CIA Dump: What Does It Mean?
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2017-03-11 05:00 by Karl Denninger
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Wikileaks CIA Dump: What Does It Mean?
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I have been prodded by readers over email to write on this for the last few days (while I'd been out hiking on the AT, incidentally -- guess how much I give a crap about "technology" and "tracking" while out there having a nice walk in the woods with only the bees and bears for company?)  But, since people keep asking, here it is:

My one-word summary: Meh.

Somewhat more-lengthy summary:
smiley

Want a bit more detail?  Ok, if you're too dense to be unable to do understand the above two.

There is nothing in there that surprises me or is news. 

In fact, if you've read this column for any length of time at all you are well-aware that I've highlighted these very "vulnerabilities" on dozens of occasions.  I put the word "vulnerabilities" in quotes for a reason: You don't care, and neither does anyone else or devices like "Smart TVs" would not have one person using them, "Alexa" would have never sold a single unit and the various fruity things would not have nearly 50% market share in the United States.  Facefart would be a zero -- literally -- as would LinkedIn and SNAP would have failed to price their IPO.

The manifest weight of the evidence is that the American people do not care that they are product.  They do not care that the very fact that they are on Facebook causes all sorts of data to be associated with them personally by name and then sold to anyone who cares to buy.

This probably includes people with nefarious intent; as I have pointed out before on these very pages if you were a terrorist and wanted to target, oh, say, military members, or police officers it would be trivial to determine with a very high degree of certainty who those people are and exactly where they live by buying said data sets and correlating them, and it would not be difficult or expensive to do it either.  That would make your intended evil deed quite easy to carry out.

It's a damn good thing there really aren't that many terrorists out there who can put together cells totaling a few hundred people inside the US and who don't care if they get "caught" (because they're prepared to die for their cause) or we'd have a really severe and immediate problem.  A problem, I remind you, that you have each individually created by using these "services", by believing "free and always will be" means what it says and more.

But I do know with utter certainty what we do have in this country and the evidence for it is clear, convincing and without question: A bunch of companies that have, will and do buy the very same data, run the very same correlation analysis and then use that data to screw you up the butt on a daily basis costing you thousands of dollars a year you would not and should not be spending otherwise.

How do we know that's absolutely true?  Because if it wasn't then Facesucker and other "social media" firms would not exist as exactly zero of them could generate any meaningful amount of revenue.

Someone's paying the bill that makes same possible and the "someone" is you.  If you think you're not you're certifiably insane.

I hope you like buttsex because you're sure as hell getting plenty of it from these companies; that the CIA is playing the same game is neither surprising or, for that matter, "news" -- if you've been reading The Market Ticker, that is.  After all you created that target-rich environment for them and you continue to make it more-so on a daily basis!

Will Wikileaks latest cause you to delete (not just stop using or suspend) your Facesucker account?  I bet not, and I bet you know it too. Will it cause you to delete your Snapchat account? No.  LinkedIn?  You're joking, right, despite their record as one of the worst when it come to spamming and data mining.

What it will do is lead to yet another round of those who read these pages making excuses.

Quit with the faux "surprise" or even "outrage." You can stop this crap right now by every one of the enabling firms and have been able to do so for years by simply sticking up the middle finger and refusing to prostitute yourself in order to preen on "social media" and similar.  You haven't and you won't, so let's cut to the chase, shall we: STFU and swallow -- you've not only consented in the past you're doing it right now, today and as a result we know exactly what to call this.

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Thebirddog
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"The People" have always been inventory in some capacity or another for the ruling class. Traditionally they played the role of fodder for military campaigns. Then the industrialists came along and they were leveraged en masse for labor. Today, the people are exploited as content and data generators; they're generally ignorant to the scam.
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The only difference between sex and******is consent.

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I felt like I was reading old news, a partial rehash of old Tickers, when the articles appeared about the Wikileaks dump. Only old, dumb appliances here and no electronic FB "friends" for me.
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I've now gone back to changing my own oil in my cars, it was just easier to swing by a shop and have it done but it turns out that they too....

ARE SELLING ME TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER!

so every few months your insurance company can get an update on your mileage and the condition of your car.

**** them


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Yep..

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Analog
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Just got out of hospital from another bout of chest pain. Cath showed 50,80,and 100% blockages too far down for stints.
Two days on recreational level morphine relieved the pain that drove me to ER. Doc phoned a 'scrip to pharmacy next door so i could get it on the way home.

Within hours of paying $335 for a month's supply of Renaxa i got a call from a mail order pharmacy offering it for $125. This ticker is right on.

I told the guy "Before i consent to further******by you and your cronies i'll buy this stuff black market from India. People are waking up to your industry's avariciousness , why do you think we elected Trump? So play this recording at your next management meeting and tell them John Q Public is madder than hell. "

I consented that time. rationalized it as "Lose the battle but win the war ? " Gotta live long enough to turn a profit on this industry.
One more bypass should do it. Doc is looking for a "High Risk Interventionist".


I did observe hospital food was carb rich and fat poor. Noticeable amount of obesity among staff - that seems to correlate with low income regions. Amazing how once you're aware these things become obvious.

I guess from here on out my carb ration will be oatmeal. And i'll drain the bacon.

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Get yer ass on a plane to India and get the cardiac arteries fixed. Under $10k including airfare and hotel for recovery after discharge.

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A Heloc or something that you may or may not have to pay back.

I would rather you be around to pay it back and I bet your family feels the same.
At least go for the travel adventure.
Follow the footsteps of those hippies,er Beatles.

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Warning - do not "suspend" your Facebook account. I did that 6 years ago and someone tried to recover my account from China. I started getting text messages from Facebook about conversations about people I had no clue about, then the emails about past "friends" postings. I never reactivated in the last 6 years.

I just recovered the account, then did the "permanent delete" option. (15 minutes ago)

It takes 2 weeks to complete this and I can change my mind before the "account delete" happens.

Of course I did poke around for an hour and saw the same crap I saw 6 years ago. Plates of food, cars, and silly selfies.

Get a (real) life and delete your on-line presence. Karl has been right all along.
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The funny thing about the leaks is little is said about the press conference Assange had. It has not been talked about much from where I have been.

Assange said the CIA had lost control of the various programs and the were, to say, out on the street. Of course, being it would render them obsolete, nothing has been done about it, as far as protection goes.

It is politically, where these tools are dangerous. The fake news story is the Russians hacked the DNC, despite the fact little or no evidence has been provided. If there was a hack and it had Russian prints on it, it is just as likely the CIA or another agency hacked it. Most likely, a pissed off inside gave wiki the material, due to the fact they didn't like the outright cheating that was ongoing inside the Party. In any case, the fake prints could have been put on afterwards for legitimacy.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I do a lot of private cussing about the government and politicians. To think I cannot even express myself in private without the potential of being recorded for future use is numbing. I wonder why a TV even has a microphone or camera, as I don't use those features. The Jetsons was a cartoon and I'm not ready for the funny papers.

Karl makes a great point about where else we are giving up all our data. Google, Facebook, Amazon and to a lesser extent, Apple have already shown themselves to be organization bent on totalitarianism. The fact they are censoring news that isn't leftist is enough for me to make that deduction. The Washington Post is the king of fake news. The left no longer has a concern about privacy and the defense can only come from those of libertarian ideals today. The left no longer recognizes the United States and thus the Constitution means absolutely zero, except where it serves their aims.

Even without this bugging, the government has other tools. More so than data collection, the threat of getting rid of cash is even greater. What you buy, who you give your money to, etc tells as much about you as what you say. They can shut your money off, through compound interest, confiscate it in other fashion. Those you help out financially can be criminals you know nothing about. Picking up the money, which has already been done once in 1933, is the end. There is a lot to having a number to buy or sell.

This is all just another sign of how far down the rabbit hole we have traveled. We probably aren't going back, as too many people are either afraid of the hidden enemy, on one hand, or too detached, in the I'm not doing anything wrong idea, on the other.

There is only one group of people that are going to do anything about this, the people whose plans the government are trying to foil. Look, if we don't support the left, we are already being branded racists. Few know how far down the hole that one charge can take us. If you voted against the obvious criminal Hillary, you are clearly anti woman. Anti black, antisemitic. The fascists communists are projecting themselves onto their opposition.

The constitution was set up to discourage big government. In fact most of what government does today is outside the intended powers granted. It has been made up as they go along. The bill of rights only exist for lip service. There are no recognized limits to government, especially if we can be led away from being an independent entity, as so much has been done so far. The concern should be nothing other than they aren't supposed to be allowed to do what they are doing. Unfortunately, they have been doing what they are not allowed to do for 100 years. We are looking at the last few feet of the field they haven't taken. The battle was probably lost when Bork was turned down in the 1980's. We have reached the point where we either turn our back on much technology or the country breaks up to survive.


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One thing I noticed among all the reports I read about this was that there was no mention of BB OS at all for compromised handsets.

Now, I don't know if my old Z10 has been compromised or not, but based on what I have read here I know it is harder to do so with that device than the latest and greatest Android or iCrap device, so I keep it all the while Verizon tries to sell me on a replacement device.
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"Someone's paying the bill that makes same possible and the "someone" is you."

"If you think you're not you're certifiably insane."

*SIGH*
Have no FB, Twits, or similar. Sig. other does. Have explained your position to her, last time just this morning after I was blowing up last night about medical.

Life is hard when, for some damn reason, you still love in insane person after 30 years.

Thanks for opening it up, KD. Really made me think things out, albeit later than I should have, with your housing industry coverage. You have made me "smarter". I pay much better attention now. Thx again.

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Off topic for this thread but relates to other recents.

Rheumatologist sd no arthritis in my knee, gave me a requested steroid shot, saying it probably wouldn't help. It didn't. said probably soft tissue damage, tendon or cartilage, get an MRI.

Saw the orthopedic surgeon who just replaced my wife's hip. Examination, second set of x-rays (standing this time), no gross bone problems, said next step, MRI, probable soft tissue damage of some sort. Ordered the MRI.

Friday, call from his office---MRI DENIED BY INSURANCE.

They also blamed it on third party contractor like it wasn't their fault. I called bull**** on them while speaking to cust. service reps in three way conference call.

As I have not met my deductibles yet, $2000, I will probably pay full boat for it anyway. Tried to get a cash quote from the recommended imageing ctr. No call back.

Went online, $900-1000 round trip to Tokyo, MRI $160-$200. Read an interesting article as to why so cheap.

Billable here is probably, don't really know, lets say $500-$2000. Next week I will ask insurance co. what they will pay to the imageing ctr.

Bet they don't tell me.

KD, one interesting thing yesterday. Ins. Co. claims their contract is with my employer, not me. Is this true? We were doing payroll yesterday so I was not able to get our plan data. Will on Monday.

What can you tell me?

Thx!
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Analog,

You need to eliminate sugar, sugar derivatives (malodextrin, glucose, fructose, etc.), HFCS, and all forms of wheat immediately.

Buy the way, bypass surgery at the Surgery Center of Oklahoma is $10,700 cash price according to their website, if you don't want to leave the country. Here's the link:

https://surgerycenterok.com/?procedure_c....
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Fully agreed. People called me crazy and 'conspiracy theorist' and whatever other ignorant crap they could come up with (damn sheeple are annoying sometimes), but for whatever reason, and while I only have a partial understanding of all the back-end specifics of the technology involved for data mining and surveillance, I was a fan of the original 24 TV show and took all the parts of the story dealing with data mining and surveillance as absolute fact that happened to be thrown in to divert the ignorant and blind (truth in fiction????). I have always taped over laptop cameras and mics, even before it was a 'thing.' Never was super into tech (NEVER signed up for MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, etc), but I'm also not a cave man so i had basics (cell phone and computer, and just plain old tube TV - hell I still own a VCR). Currently don't even own or watch TV, and my only other devices I use are an old Blackberry Curve (3G, manufactured) 2010 and an older laptop that doesn't even have a camera or mic, and am currently looking into switching OS to a some version of Linux (major learning curve). Theses tech addicts have nobody to blame but themselves. You can never fully escape the surveillance system, but you can certainly mitigate your exposure severely.
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Nice write up, Scary how everything we do is tracked, I'm always skeptical about stock research and how it's tracked by the brokers to manipulate price, but it's nearly impossible to research or do anything without the internet. Like you said we are just a product. Annominity is gone

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Went to Verizon today, to resolve issues regarding receiving email on a used Samsung Galaxy S5 my brother gave me when he upgraded.

Got that resolved after an hour, but the pertinent part was this. Did not like the results. As KD has stated in past posts, DO I OWN AND CONTROL THE DEVICE OR NOT YOU ****S! Apparently I do not.

I asked them, based on recent news reports, in a loud voice so everyone in the store could hear me, if they could sell me a phone that the .gov could not hack.

Silence, some smirks, sick smiles, from CS reps, which I called them on, and no real answers. Bunch of millenials.

Finally, a slightly older guy said "We are not trained to answer that question at this level. Try calling corporate."

Need it be any clearer,people?

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Riverrat10k
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Just remember, all.

Zuckerdick, Google, et. al. TRACK EVERYTHING YOU DO, BUT YOU CAN'T TRACK WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

As KD has reiterated, what they vacuum up is NOT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE, IT IS TO THEIRS. Credit, debit card, ALL OF IT. Think bars, liquor stores, EVERY TRANSACTION.

Pay cash till the ****ers outlaw cash.

Riverrat

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People laugh at me when I pull out my flip phone...ever since read about how vulnerable the smart phones are I decided to give them a pass. Thanks for the warnings Karl.

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Quote:
...the way, bypass surgery at the Surgery Center of Oklahoma


Thanks. Submitted a query last night.

Quit sugars last Spring but the cravings were unimaginable. Last slip was about a month ago, i seem to have got past some "hump" the physical craving is finally subsiding.

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Sugar is a highly-addictive drug -- and a destructive one on top of it.

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A friend told me about a new reality show called Hunted. I hate those shows but she insisted I watch it, knowing my general opinion on gov snooping. Teams of two individuals go on the run and try to last 28 days to win $250K. They are tracked by a team of ex cops, feebs and secret service types who use real time CCTV, license plate readers, social media etc. to find them. It is worth watching for anyone who uses social media to see how they access all your "friends" and hack into your email and social media accounts. I watched a couple episodes and was horrified to see what I've long suspected actually put into in action. I'm sure some of it was exaggerated for the show, but still, it was sobering what they can do. One of the experts tracking the teams said basically the only way to avoid capture was to go back to the 1800's. No electronic devices, no shopping, and stay out in the boondocks.
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"riverrat10k" wrote..
...and am currently looking into switching OS to a some version of Linux (major learning curve).

It's actually not that much of a learning curve if you're doing casual computing; web browsing, email, basic media usage, spreadsheets, word processing, et al. The tools are different and require a little bit of time to learn the different names, but you'll find them to be similar to commercial alternatives. Here are a few Linux distributions that are very user-friendly:

1) Ubuntu (https://www.ubuntu.com/)
2) OpenSUSE (https://www.opensuse.org/)
3) Linux Mint (https://www.linuxmint.com/)

The aggressive data collection practices of Windows 10 is what finally drove me to adopt another OS. I purchased a machine from System76 (https://system76.com/) and haven't looked back.
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Quote:
One of the experts tracking the teams said basically the only way to avoid capture was to go back to the 1800's. No electronic devices, no shopping, and stay out in the boondocks.

Pretty-much.

The problem is that one mistake dooms you -- once they are able to place you in a given metro area you better get the **** out of there FAST and not be detected in terms of direction on the way out, and that's very difficult because you don't know when/if you've been detected.

Use of any sort of plastic payment is an instant bust, as is any sort of commercial communication device. There are things you can do with "burner" phones but they're only useful if you want to communicate with other members of a "cell" (e.g. your team); as soon as you use them for social media or anything similar you're cooked.

I could probably win the $250k and I have a pretty good idea how I'd go about the attempt. I might get caught anyway but with a second team member the odds of success go *WAY* down because if EITHER person makes a mistake you're both done.

There's a third problem in a "voluntary" situation like this which is that the odds are high that you're going to find yourself in a situation where you need to commit a real crime (B&E, theft, etc) in order to maintain rational comfort or even just basic odds of success. Now you not only have guys trying to bust you keep you away from their $250k you also have guys trying to bust you to put in jail for REAL.

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