Boehner Gets Told: Bite Me
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Posted 2012-12-04 08:02
by Karl Denninger
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Boehner Gets Told: Bite Me
 

I love it....

While I'm flattered the Speaker would call something "the Bowles plan," the approach outlined in the letter Speaker Boehner sent to the President does not represent the Simpson-Bowles plan, nor is it the Bowles plan. In my testimony before the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction, I simply took the mid-point of the public offers put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where I thought a deal could be reached at that time.

Heh heh heh....

Boehner thinks he can just grab someone's name and use it without asking them first.

Uh, no.

By the way, for those who think that folks like Rand Paul have a good idea in their proposals, well, no.  Rand, like so many others, fails to understand that in a fiat monetary system money and credit are fungible and therefore in the classic monetary equality (GDP = MV) "M" is not money, it is money and credit.

The reason that we have not seen massive inflation is not, as Rand insists, that we have "exported" our inflation (e.g. to China.)  Most of that "exporting" happened in the 1990s and 2000s, not in the last four years.  The infuriating part of reading crap like Rand has published over and over again is that ideology has blinded him, along with others such as his father, to the facts even when the facts are right under their nose!

This chart, which you have all seen countless times, is the summary picture of all aspects of our monetary system, because all money is debt in a fiat, debt-backed monetary environment.

The acts of Congress and The Fed have done exactly one thing -- they have replaced the credit in "Financial Instruments."

If you look at GDP in unit-invariant terms (that is, getting "dollars" out of the definition) you would find that of course it has grown materially since 1980, as population has gone up as well in the United States.  But population has not gone up by a factor of 10, nor has gross output.  The difference is monetary inflation, and much of it (that "green bar") has been hidden as that part of the chart does not circulate.

In short that is the "skim" that the money-changers steal from society.  They provide nothing in exchange for it.

In 1980 this was $531 billion out of a total of $4.39 trillion, or 12%.

In the 4th quarter of 2008, just before the market turned, it reached $17.1 trillion, or thirty-two times larger, and represented thirty-two percent of the total, or roughly three times as much.

What the Federal Government has done is protect these firms from the consequence of attempting to skim a full third of the economy off for themselves -- an utterly outrageous and unsustainable attempt that should have resulted in their mass bankruptcy.  As that credit went from $17.12 trillion to $13.86 trillion, a decrease of $3.26 trillion, Federal Credit increased from $6.36 trillion to $11.11 trillion, a $4.75 trillion increase.

69% of the new Federal Debt to for the sole and exclusive purpose of propping up those firms. It did not go to help the people in any way -- not even by transfer payment!  It simply filled in the hole in bank balance sheets.

But that credit is still unsustainable.  It represents $13.86 trillion today out of $55.18 trillion.  That is, a full 25% of the economic lifeblood of the economy is still being siphoned off by these jackals and people like Rand Paul either don't understand it (in which case they're incompetent to hold their office) or are too damned corrupt to speak of it (in which case it's worse.)

There is some price for intermediation in the market, of course.  The low 10% range seems reasonable to me.  If you go back to the 1950s, however, you'll find that the financial industry took just a couple of percent of the total economic activity!

The problem with what The Fed and Government have done is that they transferred responsibility for the financial credit to the public at large.  That's theft folks.

And it is exactly what Boehner, Reid, Pelosi, McConnell, Obama and even Rand Paul along with the mainstream media are advocating.

History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by  controlling money and its issuance. - James Madison

… The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating. -Thomas Jefferson

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I remember something being stated on one of these blogs last week but I can not remember where. The jist of it though is that there will not be large inflation because the inflation has already happened. Just as Karl is pointing out, look how the money supply (credit in the system) took off compared to the level of output.

Now all Fed Gov is doing is attempting to hold back that credit expansion from coming out of the system. While a part of me would love to see a significant amount of deflation I realize that it would cause wholesale bankruptcies as income stream would drop while agreed on loan payments would not, making defaults almost mandatory. The downward death spiral would be a horribly awesome thing to see...

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Tell one story a thousand times in a thousand different ways. I particularly like this version. Nice job.

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4% of your words are about Boehner and the rest is another diatribe on Rand Paul?

Poor title selection...
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The first step I would like to see taken, is to eliminate debt-backed money.

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The problem with doing so is that it has to be done under a strict legal framework with criminal penalties for violations (e.g. the original Coinage Act) otherwise we'll be Weimar in a month.

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Agree. We will have to pass something akin to the Coinage Act of 1792. I would also have an independent prosecutor acting as a watchdog over CONgress, with full jurisdiction to prosecute offenders. I have no problem with that. Under such a circumstance, the power of the bankers and the debt markets is broken, and Congress is restrained from blowing us up.

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Bill Still and I came up with both a budget and a mechanical implementation means for this during his run for the Libertarian Presidential nomination.

It wasn't fully refined, but the framework was complete and I believe it would have worked. Essentially you put the entire process out in the public with a publicly-queryable data set and this forms the "basis" within the economy. Treasury is then charged with maintaining money and credit reserves to match, ex productivity improvements. "One Dollar of Capital" prohibits cheating, and in exchange for a public banking license your books are open at all times (if you don't like that then you can run as a hard-money lender all day long, but then you can't create credit at all - only lend actual cash you have.)

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I like! But what about the enforcement mechanism, to keep Congress honest?

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The Coinage Act had a fairly decent enforcement mechanism. The people simply need to grow a pair of balls and make clear that if said enforcement is not forthcoming and prompt that the people will take care of it.

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While banks should have gone bankrupt, it should be remembered that their bond holders would also have (and should also have) gone bankrupt. So while the Fed and the government have propped up banks, they have also propped up the nominal values of retirement accounts, home values, etc. Banks are just the top of a credit bubble of which at least half of society has partaken. I'm not defending the choices that were made, especially the - at best - extralegal ones. Just pointing out that the banking system was and is not only beneficiary. Many regular folks benefited, depending upon if and when they sold out of particular assets.
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So what?

Bondholders going bust is actually good. If you own a bubble house and refinanced the best thing for the economy and you is often to go broke and then buy another house somewhere down the road at half the price!

Fraud is fraud, and when you base pensions and other elements of the economy on fraud it cannot be fixed, and the longer you keep ****ing around with it the worse the damage is.

"The best (and smallest) loss is the first loss."

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Then since the 1950s:
Medical industry has grown from about 6% to 20%
Financial industry has grown from 2% to 25%
government industry has grown
government aid dependent population has grown
waistlines have grown

No good news there

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Treasury is then charged with maintaining money and credit reserves to match, ex productivity improvements.


That is how the plate was set for GDI. The productivity improvements of the prior decade were not reflected in price reductions, setting up poor capital investment decisions, over-investment in more of the same.

Same for the 1990-2000s as "productivity improvements" i.e. offshoring were not reflected in price reductions, therefor more of the same investments were made.

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Rand Paul is like dear old dad. Long on bull####, short on outcome. What exactly did Ron Paul accomplish as the chair of the House Financial Services Commitee on Monetary Policy? I say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Rand has been coached well.

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Something nobody seems to be talking about in regards to the fiscal cliff/debt ceiling hike.... If the debt limit isn't bumped up again....tax refunds won't be going out....if that won't start a revolution I don't know what will.
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For what it's worth, Mortgage Guy, I'm a regular girl (not an active trader) who shorted the banks, and so those little props didn't help me at all. I lost a lot of money, and to make it worse, I have real estate that won't sell. Too bad I was an idiot and paid off a house that I'm not even living in. So two strikes on me for betting on: what should've happened to the big banks and for getting rid of ALL debt. What an idiot.

But I see what you're saying.

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So many people to punch in the mouth, so little time. If I ever take a vacation and go see DC my arms are gonna get tired.

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But even deficit hawks say spending more now is fine and even warranted to support a fledgling economic recovery. The key is long-term cuts that take effect down the road.
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Obamabots believe :

Deficit and debt reduction SHOULDN'T be the primary goal. Fixing the American economy and infrastructure should come first, and that costs money. When things are cleaned up, THEN we should worry about the debt.

Plus, the deficit is already dropping at the fastest rate since post-WWII. So slowing the decrease won't hurt.


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Always down the road. Never today.

How does that work out again?
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Look up two posts.

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Deficit and debt reduction SHOULDN'T be the primary goal. Fixing the American economy and infrastructure should come first, and that costs money. When things are cleaned up, THEN we should worry about the debt.


They have no concept of how capital formation or aggregate demand works in reality. I liken deficit spending to putting ethanol in a vintage gasoline engine.

Does it work? Sure. Does it work for an extended period of time? Nope the fuel eats the parts alive. But the uneducated demands the engine be kept running regardless.
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And they think the bond market can never say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

When that happens and all their fantasy is crushed, they'll blame republicans or China or whoever the MSM tells them to blame. They'll never blame their Gods, Krugman, Geithner, Bernanke, Greenspan and Obama.

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Who cares about the bond market.

The new normal!

If you want to do deficit spending use the printing press.
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