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Debtpie
Posts: 534
Incept: 2009-12-17
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Uber Right-wing, annoyingly white, white guy picks Uber Right-wing, white guy as running mate...too bad that combo only picks up ~30% of the vote.
If Mittens really wants to win, he needs to stop trying to energize/pick-up the vote of people that are already going to vote for him and start aiming more for those in the middle; especially apolitical women.
On the plus side..maybe...Ryan is Catholic...is that enough to appease the Religious elites faced with the prospect of a Mormon being the most powerful man on the planet? Don't underestimate religion in this. Christians (in my circle of voters anyway) are not thrilled with the idea of a Mormon being elevated to such a high level; but is that worse than 4 more years of Obama?...we'll see.
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A Leader, or an Opportunist? "A leader has the capacity of vision, the ability to see where things are headed before people in general see those things." Mitt Romney --- DebtPie's definition: a leader decides where "things" should head and "leads" us there.
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Fishhead
Posts: 104
Incept: 2011-05-21
Rogues Island
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There is nothing, absolutely nothing "right wing" about the romnoid.
He IS Obama.
I'd say a Fourth Rule should be, "Don't be the same damned thing, or worse, as the guy you are running against."
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Goldmanssack
Posts: 1076
Incept: 2009-07-08
There is no pain, you are receding
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South Park wrote..Let's get out and vote,
let's make our voices heard.
We've been given the right to choose
between a Douche and a Turd.
It's democracy in action
put your freedom to the test,
a Big Giant Douche or a Stinky Turd,
which do you like best?"
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"But like every one of the superstates that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace" - The Obsolete Man, Twilight Zone
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Debtpie
Posts: 534
Incept: 2009-12-17
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Quote:There is nothing, absolutely nothing "right wing" about the romnoid.
He IS Obama. In reality yes, perception no; perception combined with denial easily trumps reality. Mittens and Ryan are the Great White Right Christian Saviors to dyed in the wool R's.
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A Leader, or an Opportunist? "A leader has the capacity of vision, the ability to see where things are headed before people in general see those things." Mitt Romney --- DebtPie's definition: a leader decides where "things" should head and "leads" us there.
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Stebbins
Posts: 3
Incept: 2012-02-15
Bloomington, IL
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I understand and agree with what you are saying. Being practical, what other choice do we have? Even the libertarian candidate is disappointing.
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Bertdilbert
Posts: 2655
Incept: 2008-12-22
CA
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Great, our next potential president made his living from distressed companies. Does this mean we should prepare to go massive short everything if he wins?
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Dear Euroland: Relax, Germany has a plan for your money!
Political Capital Defined: We are out of money but will tax our citizens for whatever it takes to "SAVE" the Euro.
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Flappingeagle
Posts: 1226
Incept: 2011-04-14
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Sometimes I really hate it when I agree with Karl.
I may vote for Johnson so that the Libertarian candidate gets as many votes as possible. Right now it is either Johnson or candidate "B" on my ballot.
Flap
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Here are my predictions for everyone to see:
S&P 500 at 320, DOW at 2200, Gold $300/oz, and Corn $2/bu.
"You can't build a house of cards on a shaking table." - Tony Johns
The January 2015 AMZN put at $130 (cost $4.25) will be a winner.
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Stonedog
Posts: 2080
Incept: 2008-05-29
New Jersey
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Quote:I understand and agree with what you are saying. Being practical, what other choice do we have? Even the libertarian candidate is disappointing. Well speaking for myself, I am giving serious consideration to writing in NONE OF THE ABOVE in November.
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"I would characterize my professional disdain as more of a professional contempt for their [Central Banker, Banker and politician] economic and financial policies, priorities, presumptions and prescriptions." - Lauren Lyster on Capital Account for Friday June 16, 2012
"All the stimulus, the bailouts, the quantit
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Duc888
Posts: 7368
Incept: 2008-11-06
CT, the UNconstitution State
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debtpie Quote:right wing? WTF?
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...burp
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Jpg
Posts: 329
Incept: 2009-03-23
MI
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Quote:The first is that picking someone that's dumber than a box-o-rocks may cost you the election,... Wasn't a problem in '08. |
Uwe
Posts: 6428
Incept: 2009-01-03
19446
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Debtpie wrote..Uber Right-wing, annoyingly white, white guy picks Uber Right-wing, white guy as running mate You can't be serious. Debtpie wrote..If Mittens really wants to win, he needs to stop trying to energize/pick-up the vote of people that are already going to vote for him Actually, there's a hell of a lot of conservative and libertarian leaning people who cannot possibly vote for these fake pretenders. -Uwe-
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“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” - John Locke
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Eaglewwit
Posts: 6054
Incept: 2007-11-30
SoCal
Banned
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Karl you are smarting than that. We all here on TF know that Ryan is just and Lyin Pol, but the sheeple are so stupid that they think he is the great fiscal conservative that he has so cleverly painted himself as.
This is not the nation of our grand parents. It is a nation of dumbed down ignoramuses. And that is being nice.
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Workerbee
Posts: 1398
Incept: 2009-03-18
* Winter is Coming *
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Our choices suck ass.
I especially hate that Ryan is portrayed as fiscally conservative, that ****ing*****es me off.
But Obama IS a marxist communist mother****er and it's so blatant and in-your-face I am COMPELLED to vote against him, so I will be voting for R&R..
Not my happiest reality, but it is what it is, so there it is.
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Prepare for Our Valley Forge
*~* Appeal to Heaven *~*
...that those "who having no appeal on earth to right them, they are left to the only remedy in such cases, an appeal to heaven." ~John Locke
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Mezcal
Posts: 1831
Incept: 2007-08-04
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"God knows who is a counter-party to whom in the mammoth international cluster**** of accounting fraud that passes for a commerce in capital."
Kunstler, 13 June 2011
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Penguinzee
Posts: 222
Incept: 2010-06-13
Tampa Bay, FL
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Quote:Well speaking for myself, I am giving serious consideration to writing in NONE OF THE ABOVE in November. +1... unfortunately, None Of The Above (or even the true savior, Nobody) isn't running this year...
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Crime is far too lucrative a game to let the little people play.-popofthebright
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Mortgageguymn
Posts: 1562
Incept: 2009-03-09
North Coast
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I don't like Ryan one little bit. While I can respect anyone who tells oldsters they deserve less free ****, Karl's laid out clearly his other many flaws. Plus he's a sanctimonious prick.
Debtpie, whatever happened to judging people not by the color of the skin but by the content of their character? This isn't the first time you've railed against Romney for being Whitey McWhitenstein. If you find him wanting for character or policy reasons, fine (although your pledge to vote for Obama calls into question whether character matters one iota to you). What's Romney supposed to do, get some tats and act like Slim Shady? Pick a goofball like Jindal just so you feel there's a sufficient melanin quotient to the ticket? I find your comments pathetic and probably born of some overwrought white guilt.
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Gen_maximus57
Posts: 4580
Incept: 2007-09-03
Tampa
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I think the Repubs threw this one on purpose, they know whats coming in the next 4 years and its gonna be ugly
Who better to implement austerity than obozo, sheep wont see it coming
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Bluebird
Posts: 1381
Incept: 2008-05-02
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Perhaps. What if the stock market declines 2000 or more? People might change their minds and vote for the Repubs after all.
edit: because the sheeple think Obama's policies caused the stock market to decline so the sheeple would for for Romney/Ryan hoping the market goes back up.
Sheeple are not very bright.
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Crzymorse
Posts: 1187
Incept: 2010-06-25
Maryland
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This clears the way for Jeb Bush in four years, maybe he can save the Republician party.
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Otiswild
Posts: 5613
Incept: 2009-03-09
Inside you, the force is!
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Mortgageguymn
Posts: 1562
Incept: 2009-03-09
North Coast
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The best possible result might be deadlock over extending the Bush-Obama tax cuts, thereby assuring that tax rates go up on everyone - not just the "rich", deadlock over the payroll tax "holiday", so that it, too, goes away and deadlock that stymies Obama's desires for more spending. Unfortunately that would leave Obamacare & Dodd Frank in place, leave Obama to nominate more Kagans & Sotomayors (or maybe a blind transsexual double-amputee midget from Borneo so Debtpie will feel less guilty for being alive) and leave Obama to continue trying to run the country himself using the "We Can't Wait" clause of the constitution as his justification.
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Oldno7
Posts: 2138
Incept: 2008-11-14
RECALL STATE USA
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Damnit Karl here I was feeling good today after listening to Ryan's speech. Ryan speaks well and he is right about one thing and that is the time to turn this around has to be now. So what do you do but bring up a bunch of FACTS which I have to admit I forgot about. If Obummer gets 4 more years we are doomed and if Mitt/Ryan win and don't do what's necessary we are doomed and based on the facts you presented Mitt & Ryan will probably not perform based on all their past actions. One thing I do know is that with Obummer there is no hope but maybe just maybe Mitt/Ryan could change. It's all I can hope for at this point.
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IT'S THE SPENDING STUPID The US must become less a government of men, and more a government of LAW.
When people lose everything and have nothing left to lose they lose it -Gerald Celente
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Uwe
Posts: 6428
Incept: 2009-01-03
19446
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“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” - John Locke
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Azusgm
Posts: 2393
Incept: 2010-12-02
East Texas
Online
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I am sickened by the usurpation we are seeing and allowing. However, I will show up and vote against Eric Holder and his co-enabler Obama. This country is in a heap of trouble. I have two little old ladies, whom I love, living with me. I won't abandon them. It would be lovely to feel I had the option to set up housekeeping elsewhere, because I likely would get out. As is, our country's imperialistic attitude has set us up for a terrible fall. Bin Laden said that we could be destroyed by a financial collapse. IMO, we might be heading for another form of destruction. We have troop movements inside our country. We have foreign troops training on the soil of the continental United States in and near our cities. It is obvious they are training for urban warfare. Early reports of such urban training from ten years ago included information that lines of fire were being mapped out for various cities by US military. Lines of fire don't translate to cities in other countries or even other cities in the same state. Two or three months ago, there were exercises in Tampa of all places. This included helicopter drops over the water. We've been viewing Videopro's posts about Anaheim. There are troops in camo and no badges engaged in crowd control duty against protestors walking on sidewalks. The protestors are even working against themselves by being so profoundly inarticulate that, if they get a day in court, any judge or jury would almost certainly take more offense by their verbiage than by the tyranny on display by the governments. For your viewing pleasure: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/....I'll vote against the devils I know and keep working to improve our lot in case we still have a country four years from now. |
