From the DL to the judges this all sounds exactly like an autobiography of living through the Russian prisons through WWII and the cold war. The level of incompetent bureaucracy and the refusal to make a decision, only pawning it off to the next guy is astounding. "Don't rock the boat" becomes planned incompetence - the new path to promotion in the Party.

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"Don't rock the boat" becomes planned incompetence

No .. it becomes submission to save one's own ass and/or pension. To heck with what's right. It's each man/woman for him/herself.

Orly's appeal ...

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/u....

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This behavior of judge Malihi was so outrageous, that not only his advisory opinion needs to be set aside, as not grounded in any fact or law, but state and county grand juries and the Attorney General of Georgia need to launch a criminal investigation into actions of judge Malihi and possible direct or indirect undue influence by Obama. Decision by Malihi reads, as if it was entirely written by Obama's personal attorneys Robert Bauer and Judith Corley of Perkins Coie and rubber stamped by Malihi. It is noteworthy, that both Robert Bauer and Judith Corley need to be criminally investigated as well, as both of them were complicit in aiding and abetting Obama in presenting to the public on April 27, 2011 a computer generated forgery and claiming it to be a true and correct copy of Obama's birth certificate. Such assumption by Malihi, that Obama was born in the U.S., without any documentary evidence to that extent from Obama, goes beyond an abuse of judicial disretion, it represents judicial misconduct.

Edit: She needs a spellchecker.

she's a idiot. even if she is right, she is a idiot

The right frontrunner on this case would get it further. the fake BC is what tis all hinges on.

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she's a idiot. even if she is right, she is a idiot

I concluded awhile ago that the birther thing was complete bunk mainly because I judged her character and found it lacking. Turns out I may have been wrong -- not about her -- but even people that seem a little nutty can happen to be right sometimes.

I'm starting to wonder if Orly is some sort of Obama plant. It's hard to believe anyone who went to law school could be so damned ignorant of procedure and protocol. She is embarrassing the whole profession. Someone needs to lock her in a closet.

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It's hard to believe anyone who went to law school could be so damned ignorant

It appears she earned her law degree from a 'Registered Unaccredited Correspondence Law School.'

http://www.taftu.edu/TLS/index.htm

http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/....

No. Wait. Not sufficient.

Cerich, your grammar is lacking. As they say, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

Driver...Really?? LOL. Obviously in your mind grammar is indicative of a persons intelligence or something...

I disagree, good grammar is a mastery of rules in a particular language, which may or may not be the persons native. It indicates a command of the art of writing in a language, it indicates NOTHING of a person intelligence. When I see people who are well educated trying to express themselves thru the use of impeccable grammar and the highest Flesch-Kincaid level they can attain, it says more about the core values and insecurity of the proficient grammar using and well educated individual than the dirty masses...

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I'm starting to wonder if Orly is some sort of Obama plant.

Me too.

Cerich: All that may be true, but the use of apostrophes (you omitted 3 necessary ones) is a more elementary skill that typically distinguishes the reasonably educated from everyone else. ALL CAPS POSTING IS ALSO BAD FORM.

And has Orly has shown all too clearly, bad form can derail a perfectly fine intellectual argument in a debate/legal case.

Orly is a fool. It appears she is thinking like she is prosecuting the case. She needs to be thinking like a defense attorney, finding the one absolute truth that will force a judge to rule in her favour.

Her "shotgun" shoot enough and one will stick approach is not going to work in this case.

Listening to her in the hearing, it appears that English is not her native language. If she were smart, at a minimum, she'd have someone proofread her written submissions.

It's a shame ... she has so many valid points, but unfortunately does indeed come off as a nutcase. Why couldn't some "valid" attorney with finesse and presence have taken on this case?

To Cerich's point ... I recently purchased a wifi security manufactured in China (sorry) ... good product, but the documentation absolutely sucked. If you're going to "market" your "product" to a certain audience, you need to have your grammatical act together or else you lose credibility (and future business). The integrity of the product is not everything ... the quality and clarity of written expression in documentation counts for a lot.

"she has so many
valid points, but unfortunately does
indeed come off as a nutcase."

This may not be by accident.

Why is it that most people that fight for the freedom cause, and get any kind of MSM coverage appear...well....lacking?

Why is it that the Wall Street protesters that garnered most MSM coverage were.......well......quite lacking in substance?

Why is it that the Tea Party, after starting off with a platform of personal rights and accountability of officials, suddenly turned to the old....g, g, G issues?

Just sayin.

Vars, the most heard voices are often the most quiet.

Petition for Appeal in Georgia has been filed....Here is the latest Liberty Legal Foundation email along with URL to filing pdf....

"The Georgia Superior Court tried to pull a fast one. They initially refused to file our Petition for Appeal. They claimed that our papers lacked two dollars for the two motions that were included along with our petition. We DID include the $213.50 filing fee for the petition, but they were going to sit on our documents and not file any of them, in part because of the missing $2.

The Superior Court’s clerk’s office made several other excuses as to why our petition couldn’t be filed. I won’t bore you with the details. Suffice to say they tried several excuses, none of which reflect normal operating procedures for any court I’ve heard of. Each time I explained why their reason didn’t make any sense under the law or court rules, they moved on to another excuse. After being transferred, placed on hold, hung up on, and argued with, they finally agreed to file the petition, but still refused to file the motions until they got their $2. In my experience as an attorney, including being temporarily admitted in 4 states outside Tennessee, and admitted to practice at every level of Federal and State courts, this is unheard of.

To top off our little story, the Georgia Superior Court didn’t contact our office to tell us that there was a problem with our filing. They just sat on our petition and emergency motion. Had we not called to verify that our petition was filed we would have missed tomorrow’s filing deadline. (This is why we call to verify filings.) The $2 was personally delivered today and the emergency motions are now filed.

One of those motions is an Emergency Motion for Stay and Preliminary Injunction prohibiting the Georgia Secretary of State from including candidate Barack Obama on the Georgia Presidential Primary ballot. Read the filing on our website. Quoting from the motion,

"should this Court incorrectly deny this motion it would confirm that the judicial branch is now unwilling to enforce the clearest and most basic requirements of the U.S. Constitution. Harm to Petitioner that would result from such incorrect refusal to grant this motion represents nothing less than the loss of our constitutional form of government for all Americans."

Our 15 page Appeal, available on our website, argues that the decision of the OSAH court:

-violated Rules of Constitutional Construction,
-misapplied Minor v. Happersett,
-ignored the clear definition and precedential status of Natural Born Citizen in Minor,
-ignored the Minor Court’s discussion of other categories of citizens,
-ignored the Minor Court holding that the 14th Amendment “Did Not Add to the Privileges and Immunities of a Citizen”,
-applied dicta from Wong Kim Ark instead of precedent from Minor, and
-relied upon the severely flawed Indiana state court ruling, Arkeny v. Governor.

The OSAH decision concludes that any person born within the United States, regardless of the citizenship or legal status of their parents, is a “natural born citizen” under Article II of the United States Constitution. This conclusion runs contrary to common sense, violates venerable rules of Constitutional Construction followed by the U.S. Supreme Court since its inception, and violates the explicit holding of the Supreme Court case relied upon.

Had the drafters of the Constitution intended all people born in the U.S. to be considered natural born citizens, the 14th Amendment would not have been necessary. Had the drafters of the 14th Amendment intended that Amendment to alter the Article II definition of natural born citizen, they would have clearly stated so. Yet the term “natural born citizen” is not found anywhere within the 14th Amendment. The Amendment also makes no reference to Article II. The OSAH ruling, therefore, violates rules of construction that the OSAH had itself relied upon just days earlier in the same litigation. Quoting Judge Malihi,

"When the Court construes a constitutional or statutory provision, the 'first step…is to examine the plain statutory language.' [T]his Court is not authorized either to read into or to read out that which would add to or change its meaning.”

The OSAH decision ignores a precedential holding from the U.S. Supreme Court in favor of dicta from a later Supreme Court case. This issue was presented at length to the OSAH at oral arguments and in written submissions, yet the OSAH chose to completely ignore this issue in its decision.

That the OSAH decision relies upon a non-binding opinion from an Indiana State Appellate Court to support its conclusion further illustrates their failure to follow venerable rules of construction and judicial restraint. In Arkeny v. Governor, the Indiana opinion relied upon was litigated by pro-se citizens of Indiana against the Governor of that state. The Indiana court reached its holding via an issue that did not require interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, yet that court then proceeded to construe the U.S. Constitution anyway. The Indiana court's decision to construe the U.S. Constitution without need to do so represents an overreaching Judiciary and violates a doctrine of judicial restraint established by the Supreme Court over 150 years ago. The OSAH’s reliance upon the Indiana court’s opinion, rather than follow a precedential holding of the U.S. Supreme Court, further demonstrates the OSAH’s errors of law.

So now our case is in the hands of the Georgia Superior Court. We will continue to pursue the vindication of our Constitution from this outrageous ruling. Thank you for standing with us and supporting Liberty Legal Foundation in this important effort."

Filing....
http://libertylegalfoundation.org/wp-con....

Ms Tickly makes the point that a lot of blogs and people already have standing to file fraud or RICO civil lawsuits; and that evidence of criminal fraud is already in our hands and is not dependent on the release of Obama's original long form or any documents....

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2012/0....

She makes an excellent point!

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"I'm starting to wonder if Orly is some sort of Obama plant."

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"Me too."

Me three!

Read this if you aren't convinced that Obama plants have directed this entire controversy! http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2012/0....

Uhhmm...that's a lot to read through...how about a Reader's Digest version?

Pika: Obama's a bad actor on what used to be a grand stage.

1. "They" are controlling both/all sides of the BC controversy. Those on the "other" side are in reality part of "them."

2. "Their" network casts a wider net than anyone realizes (kind of like "six degrees of separation politics-style).

3. "They have the ability to manipulate and/or cover up virtually anything.

As Asi said, everything we see and hear is staged. Everything.

"Trust No One"