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Boshaugh
Posts: 2082
Incept: 2008-08-08
Northern Virginia/DC Metro Area
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this reminds me of the lists 24 year old single girls make about all the characteristics they want in a man, then 10 years later they have 5 cats and are hitting on bald fat guys
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54901
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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I think Kerry nails this - and he didn't even know the criteria. 
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Firefly76
Posts: 49
Incept: 2011-08-09
Houston TX
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Oh McCain you hobbit hating POS. I have a theory that if someone squeezed that thing on his face it would pop and show that his nothing but a giant pimple on the ars of what is DC.
I was hoping that the GOOOH Party would pick up steam almost 95000 members but until the R&D establishment is uprooted it will only get the 3rd party treatment
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Genesis
Posts: 131401
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Please read the entire ticker before asking me to evaluate someone - I need the REASONS you believe they qualify and EXAMPLES along with how I can verify it.
And 1lump, I removed your comment. The next snipe in my Ticker area will be your last.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Lynford1933
Posts: 14
Incept: 2011-03-10
Reno Nv
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I believe most people vote for the "Least Worse" candidate. I can't think of any politician (elected or not) that has ever strictly passed your filter. The ideal for a candidate is to convince most of the voting people that they are the "least worse". Hell of a deal isn't it?
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Djloche
Posts: 3341
Incept: 2008-07-07
In the Mountains
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on a side note: the Benzinga add-on is acting up ---
Candidate list that has passed #1-3:
I suspect this list to be empty for as long as the market ticker is still written.
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"Just because the **** has not yet hit you in the face, does not mean that the **** has not hit the fan."
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Bertdilbert
Posts: 2693
Incept: 2008-12-22
CA
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The only problem I see with your process is that it does not take candidate's prior history of making promises and fulfilling them. For instance, Obama made a lot of claims to get the vote then we got shafted. Prior history has to be taken into consideration as well, then put them though the sifter.
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Rich_lather
Posts: 64
Incept: 2008-04-23
Tallahassee
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Hognutz
Posts: 45
Incept: 2010-09-04
S.C.
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Poor Genesis, he got his work cut out for him. I think it would just be easier to write in "Mickey Mouse."
;-)
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Comrader
Posts: 80
Incept: 2010-06-10
pa
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i think i remember writing in "beelzebub" as the lesser of two evils
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Sunkeye
Posts: 195
Incept: 2010-12-14
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gotta say i live-streamed the 'debate' it's kinda like my new favorite reality show 'cept ive never watched any - tv free since '06
anyway as far as presence and gravitas go gingrich stands out like kareem abdul jabbar at a munchkin convention
if only the dude hadnt dumped his old lady on her cancer ward hospital bed
too bad for old newter women vote so it's seeya later dude any chance for the whitehouse-wise
i dunno if it's funny or just sad gingrich & slick willy are opposite sides of the same bent penny cuz no joke as far as knowing their stuff politics-wise those two guys are studs humanbeing-wise tho two complete puds
still think it's obamacare over romneycare in a frustrationfest for all americanos
but man oh man am i pulling for a 3rd party run oh well ... a kid can still dream right?
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Stpaulmercantile
Posts: 39
Incept: 2011-09-24
Maryland
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I think conservatives and libertarians should stay home (not vote) unless there is an excellent candidate that actually understands the economic problems of this country and will make deep, deep cuts in government. I don't buy the "get rid of Obama at any cost". If the economy actually stays together until the next election, it will certainly fall apart under the next administration. Whoever is President at that time will get lots of the blame, so I'd be happy if the Republicans took over the Senate, increased their numbers in the House, and we had a lame-duck Obama next term to blame.
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Nuke_engineer
Posts: 2704
Incept: 2007-08-19
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Hognutz +100
I guess this will take the fun out of politics. You mean no more political barbecues on the Pee Dee river in Galivant's Ferry and Horry County to get endorsements? A fixed, unwavering political endorsement process? No more smoke filled rooms? No more quid pro quo? No more money under the table? No forgiveness of past sins unless unless you stand up and serve witness against yourself?
Mon Dieu! I guess this dumb guy thinks this country has gone to the dogs.
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Trading and investing is understanding about people, emotions and corruption of government, corporations, banks and people using propaganda, lies, mathematics and bankster logic working against you.
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Themortgagedude
Posts: 8891
Incept: 2007-12-17
saint louis
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Maybe it's time for me to run. I think I meet all your requirements.
In reading the ticker though it seems as though you want to know candidates stance on social positions. Let's start with abortion. I wouldn't be a party to an abortion. I think its the taking of a life. But not being God myself or having the knowledge of God I prefer not to take a position on abortion. I think there are many bigger fish to fry currently than putting out a position on abortion. And hell most of the people that would terminate a pregnancy will find a way to do so even if it is illegal.
My position on the budget. Simple, no congress or president should be allowed to spend more money than was collected in the prior fiscal year. Thus you have to increase the tax revenue prior to spending it.
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I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth.
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Zzt
Posts: 3060
Incept: 2007-06-26
Glendale az
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KD - I usually have 100% confidence in your opinion.
However , I believe you , nor I , will ever find a candidate that is 100% acceptable. Currently there are still important gains to be made by supporting an imperfect candidate. Sometimes you just have to realistically take what you can get as a defensive holding action and plan for the future.
My best case analysis/hope is for demonstrations to grow and evolve into a third party we can support and it happening by the 2016 general election. Major legitimate political parties take time , money and organisation to mature and cannot spring from nothing in 6 months. A solid bloc of third party candidates can wield disproportionate power in a divided Congress as nothing can pass without the consent of the small third party to win major legislation. It will take at least 4 years to accomplish this and perhaps all your work will be rewarded. Right now you simply cant have what you want.
The next general election will have ONLY imperfect candidates but that doesnt mean a voter should cut off his nose to spite his face.
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Genesis
Posts: 131401
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Quote: However , I believe you , nor I , will ever find a candidate that is 100% acceptable. Currently there are still important gains to be made by supporting an imperfect candidate. Sometimes you just have to realistically take what you can get as a defensive holding action and plan for the future.
The above qualifications are not to pass a "perfect" candidate filter. They are simply this: 1. Is this person provably lying with trivial effort of verification. 2. Did this person pass 5th grade Math. That's all. If you cannot find a candidate to vote for that recognizes the fact that when you drop a brick on your foot IT WILL HURT, then there is nobody to vote for at all.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Nuke_engineer
Posts: 2704
Incept: 2007-08-19
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Quote:Maybe it's time for me to run. I think I meet all your requirements. Hehehe....run away or run for office?
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Trading and investing is understanding about people, emotions and corruption of government, corporations, banks and people using propaganda, lies, mathematics and bankster logic working against you.
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Stpaulmercantile
Posts: 39
Incept: 2011-09-24
Maryland
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FIREFLY said: I was hoping that the GOOOH Party would pick up steam almost 95000 members but until the R&D establishment is uprooted it will only get the 3rd party treatment
In case some of you haven't heard of GOOOH (pronounced "Go"), it is a grass roots movement that is trying to replace incumbents with citizens from all walks of life (all walks except politics). It stands for "Get Out Of Our House", and that includes the Senate. The idea is to send business owners, doctors, plumbers, teachers, etc. to Washington, have them serve 1-2 terms, then return to their real jobs. I don't know this for a fact, but I thought that was the idea that our Founders had, though some of them appeared to be career politicians themselves.
GOOOH is trying to get on the ballot in as many states as possible for the next election. Members who live close enough to meet together, do so, then they pick a candidate from their group and get them on their state's ballot as a GOOOH candidate.
I don't know why GOOOH hasn't reached out to the Tea Party folks, as I think most Tea Partiers would agree with the idea of getting rid of politics as a career. Anybody know anything about this?
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Flappingeagle
Posts: 1245
Incept: 2011-04-14
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Were I to run for office I could pass your necessary conditions test easily. The trouble is, as much as I despise my U.S. Rep, the thought of being a U.S. Rep is even worse.
Maybe that is what is wrong with the country, the people who would make good officials won't have anything to do with being an official.
As a side point, I've felt for years that the salary and benefits we pay for Reps and Senators, and even president, are at the perfect level to attract the wrong people. We should either pay $1 with no benefits or $750,000 per year with benefits. There are LOTS of qualified people out there who are making $500,000+ and see no reason to take a huge paycut to be an elected official.
I was listening to a radio talk show down in GA 10 or 12 years ago and they were talking to (I believe) a Democrat strategist. She indicated that NEITHER party could get the people they wanted to run for office to run becuase they were not going to sideline a career where they are making $500K + to make $175k.
Maybe one element of our problem is that we are fishing with the wrong bait so to speak. I know that in my situation I would not want to have to maintain a house in my district and also pay to live in DC on 175k.
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54901
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Quote:I don't know why GOOOH hasn't reached out to the Tea Party folks, as I think most Tea Partiers would agree with the idea of getting rid of politics as a career. They have. So has the Kick Them All Out project. Too many people in TPs who are still worshipping at the establishment GOP altar.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Rickl
Posts: 1238
Incept: 2009-03-08
Pennsylvania
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Flappingeagle wrote..Maybe one element of our problem is that we are fishing with the wrong bait so to speak. I know that in my situation I would not want to have to maintain a house in my district and also pay to live in DC on 175k. I had a friend once who suggested that a dormitory building be built in DC to house all Congresscritters. That way they wouldn't have to buy and maintain a residence there. Those who thought that living in a dormitory was "beneath them" wouldn't run in the first place. That idea was suggested in jest, but it actually makes sense on a number of levels.
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Those of us who do remember history are condemned to repeat it anyway because those who don't are in the majority.
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Themortgagedude
Posts: 8891
Incept: 2007-12-17
saint louis
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Rick - just think of the revolving door of hookers that would be there. I'm telling you your idea is so full of "Reality TV" win that I just can't help think it's a great idea.
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I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth.
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Jgfoster
Posts: 1
Incept: 2011-10-23
Beaverton, OR
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Mr. Denninger, I am James Foster, candidate for Congress in Oregon's HR district 1 special election on January 31, 2012 (this is the seat formerly held by David Wu). I support the Libertarian platform ( http://www.lp.org/platform) and look to Cato for more detailed policy prescriptions ( http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/index.....). Following are brief comments on the three issues you specified: 1. Economic policy. A free and competitive market allocates resources in the most efficient manner. Each person has the right to offer goods and services to others on the free market. The only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected. All efforts by government to redistribute wealth, or to control or manage trade, are improper in a free society. 2. Energy policy. While energy is needed to fuel a modern society, government should not be subsidizing any particular form of energy. I oppose all government control of energy pricing, allocation, and production. 3. Domestic social policy. The powers granted to Congress (article 1, section 8) do not include what is typically thought of as social policy. Individuals should be free to make choices for themselves and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices they make. The federal government should have no role in marriage, abortion, education, healthcare, labor, housing, agriculture, commerce, etc. James Foster http://VoteJamesFoster.com/
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