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Frat
Posts: 1935
Incept: 2009-07-15
NKY
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Gee, I thought that WAS about America.
Oh, wait; I see what you did there.
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We're ****ed. Where's Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Corn1945
Posts: 4167
Incept: 2009-04-30
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Greece has all the leverage. They can do nothing and still get the bailout money. Why should they reform anything (from their point of view)?
If the Germans keep bailing them out, why stop the bad behavior?
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Medicdan
Posts: 8020
Incept: 2010-02-11
Scottsdale, AZ
Online
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The United States of America is the greatest country on the face of the earth. Everyone knows that economics 101 doesn't apply here.
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Trades50
Posts: 4215
Incept: 2007-10-30
Land of Tax and Spend
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Message so far has been reward bad behavior (debt, consumption, ship production overseas) and punish good behavior (Savings, capital investment). No surprise in the end result. Do the same as before and expect a different result. A PhD economist will just say make it bigger next time.
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When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
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Tsk
Posts: 2292
Incept: 2008-01-20
Indiana
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Gen: Now tell everybody what Greece is going through, and what we're gonna be seeing soon...
THAT's the real eye opener!
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Flappingeagle
Posts: 1227
Incept: 2011-04-14
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Have you guys ever heard or do you remember the old saying?
If you owe the bank a little bit of money and you can't pay, you have a problem. If you owe the bank a lot of money and you can't pay, the bank has a problem.
This is where Greece has the other countries by the balls. They owe a LOT of money and there is no chance they can pay. Unfortunately, if the creditor countries admit it, then they are the losers and the politicians don't want to admit they've squandered tons of money on Greece. When this collapses, and it will collapse, then the politicians who've built their careers on this crap are out and they know it.
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Here are my predictions for everyone to see: S&P 500 at 320, DOW at 2200, Gold $300/oz, and Corn $2/bu. "You can't build a house of cards on a shaking table." - Tony Johns The January 2015 AMZN put at $130 (cost $4.25) will be a winner.
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Ape_lincoln
Posts: 764
Incept: 2011-08-04
Ron Paul 2012
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Karl you make too much sense. And you should run for Congress. I believe your district is up for 2012.
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Uppity_peasant
Posts: 3112
Incept: 2009-06-26
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Hey! Joe Biden said today that the poor economy is "bad luck"....
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==== If it's true that "assault weapons" are "weapons of war" and don't belong on the streets of America, why do the police need them? Who are the police at war with?
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Marvinmartian
Posts: 750
Incept: 2011-03-16
Pasadena, CA
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Sounds more like California. The unions dominate the campaign contributions.
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Rickl
Posts: 1226
Incept: 2009-03-08
Pennsylvania
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Uppity_peasant wrote..Hey! Joe Biden said today that the poor economy is "bad luck".... Robert A. Heinlein wrote..Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded here and there, now and then are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck."
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We are so far past and beyond the “long train of abuses and usurpations” that the Colonists and Founders experienced and which necessitated the Revolutionary War that they aren’t even visible in the rear-view mirror. ~ Ann Barnhardt
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Quads4444
Posts: 1634
Incept: 2007-11-09
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..."In these 12 months it has not fired even one civil servant."
The post office is bleeding red big time with a lot more to come. With all the other options available to consumers fewer units of mail are being processed every year.
This decreasing trend has been going on for years now. Yet the executives at the post office signed a ...No Layoff... contract last year.
Now they are whining that they need to layoff 50,000 works but can't because of the ...NO LAYOFF...contract. What a bunch of idiots.
Everyone remotely responsible for that ..NO LAYOFF CONTRACT... needs to be fired.
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Mdporter
Posts: 560
Incept: 2008-02-26
San Jose, CA
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Postal union knew what was coming, the no layoff thing is to buy the union members time to suck a little more out of the taxpayer before they lose their jobs.
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Winstonsmith2009
Posts: 1060
Incept: 2009-08-05
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This guy gets it: This is going to hurt The worldwide bond bubble will burst, and Britain is not prepared http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/72...."So the bond bubble not only helped cause the boom and subsequent crash. It then helped western governments deal with their hangover by serving another round of debt tequila. An economist from Mars, landing today, would find it extraordinary that most western countries are responding to the debt crisis by doubling their national debt. And if this pipeline of cheap debt dries up, what then? Slowly, across Europe, we are beginning to find out."
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Corn1945
Posts: 4167
Incept: 2009-04-30
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Sovereign debt is a terrible investment. US Treasuries included. They are going to be defaulted on either way.
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Tesla
Posts: 15541
Incept: 2008-04-03
State of Disbelief
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Real reform would punish TPTB. Will the oligopoly punish itself ?  Riiiight. Some are trying ... but not too hard ... http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/09/2....Dear Chairman Bernanke, It is our understanding that the Board Members of the Federal Reserve will meet later this week to consider additional monetary stimulus proposals. We write to express our reservations about any such measures. Respectfully, we submit that the board should resist further extraordinary intervention in the U.S. economy, particularly without a clear articulation of the goals of such a policy, direction for success, ample data proving a case for economic action and quantifiable benefits to the American people. It is not clear that the recent round of quantitative easing undertaken by the Federal Reserve has facilitated economic growth or reduced the unemployment rate. To the contrary, there has been significant concern expressed by Federal Reserve Board Members, academics, business leaders, Members of Congress and the public. Although the goal of quantitative easing was, in part, to stabilize the price level against deflationary fears, the Federal Reserve’s actions have likely led to more fluctuations and uncertainty in our already weak economy. We have serious concerns that further intervention by the Federal Reserve could exacerbate current problems or further harm the U.S. economy. Such steps may erode the already weakened U.S. dollar or promote more borrowing by overleveraged consumers. To date, we have seen no evidence that further monetary stimulus will create jobs or provide a sustainable path towards economic recovery. Ultimately, the American economy is driven by the confidence of consumers and investors and the innovations of its workers. The American people have reason to be skeptical of the Federal Reserve vastly increasing its role in the economy if measurable outcomes cannot be demonstrated. We respectfully request that a copy of this letter be shared with each Member of the Board. Sincerely, Sen. Mitch McConnell, Rep. John Boehner, Sen. Jon Kyl, Rep. Eric Cantor Ooooh, that'll leave a mark.  And if Bernanke does what he wants anyhow, the consequences are ... ??? Just more kabuki theatre.
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