GDP Report: Liar Liar Pants On Fire
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Posted 2010-07-30 08:55
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GDP Report: Liar Liar Pants On Fire
 

"Here it comes"......

LiesMan on CNBS is spooging himself with "wow"s.

Well, the futures disagree.  And so do I.

Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 2.4 percent in the second quarter of 2010, (that is, from the first quarter to the second quarter), according to the "advance" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the first quarter, real GDP increased 3.7 percent.

Well, so they say.  That's first estimate.  Remember that BEA's average "overstatement" of late seems to be running in the 20-30% range .vs. reality when the finals are in.  So if we apply that sort of discount, we're well under 2.0, which will be admitted once all is said and done (and you've forgotten about the orgasmic response of the CNBS pump monkey clowns.)

Final sales of computers added 0.04 percentage point to the second-quarter change in real GDP after adding 0.10 percentage point to the first-quarter change. Motor vehicle output subtracted 0.01 percentage point from the second-quarter change in real GDP after adding 0.74 percentage point to the first-quarter change.

And again, .vs. the spooging that CNBS is doing right now about "Cars", the report says that motor vehicle output SUBTRACTED from GDP this quarter.

The price index for gross domestic purchases, which measures prices paid by U.S. residents, increased 0.1 percent in the second quarter, compared with an increase of 2.1 percent in the first. Excluding food and energy prices, the price index for gross domestic purchases increased 0.9 percent in the second quarter, compared with an increase of 1.6 percent in the first.

Pay more, have less.  That'll work out great, right?

Real personal consumption expenditures increased 1.6 percent in the second quarter, compared with an increase of 1.9 percent in the first. Durable goods increased 7.5 percent, compared with an increase of 8.8 percent. Nondurable goods increased 1.6 percent, compared with an increase of 4.2 percent. Services increased 0.8 percent, compared with an increase of 0.1 percent.

How the hell is that possible with unemployment up around 10%?  Oh wait, I found it.

Real federal government consumption expenditures and gross investment increased 9.2 percent in the second quarter, compared with an increase of 1.8 percent in the first. National defense increased 7.4 percent, compared with an increase of 0.4 percent. Nondefense increased 13.0 percent, compared with an increase of 5.0 percent. Real state and local government consumption expenditures and gross investment increased 1.3 percent, in contrast to a decrease of 3.8 percent.

Ah, so the Federal Government, despite claims by the Obama Administration that "deficits will come down" and similar lies, in fact dramatically increased non-defense spending.

Further, States and local governments, even though they have no money, increased spending too.  Yes, that pretty green sky is an approaching tornado, and it's labeled "state and local insolvencies."

The change in real private inventories added 1.05 percentage points to the second-quarter change in real GDP after adding 2.64 percentage points to the first-quarter change. Private businesses increased inventories $75.7 billion in the second quarter, following an increase of $44.1 billion in the first quarter and a decrease of $36.7 billion in the fourth.

Oh, so fairly close to half of the GDP "increase" was in fact due to inventory build.  Guess what happens to you when you build inventories that you later can't sell?  Hint: The first letter is "B".

The personal saving rate -- saving as a percentage of disposable personal income -- was 6.2 percent in the second quarter, compared with 5.5 percent in the first.

That's a load of crap.  BEA calls "personal savings" the mathematical forumula "Income - spending = savings."  Uh huh.  Paying off your credit card is "savings", according to the BEA. 

Then we have revisions.

For 2006-2009, we now have a decrease net-net, as opposed to being flat. 

All three years of the revision period were revised down. Again, if a mistake or inaccuracy (as opposed to intentional falsehood) is responsible for errors, one would expect them to be normally distributed - that is, some would be positive, some negative.  This is obviously not the case.

Is there any good news in the report?  Well, yes - there was a material uptick in non-residential fixed investment, centered around equipment and software.  How much of this is a normal replacement cycle (deferred last year) and how much signifies real expansion is an open question and one not easily answered.  However, I wouldn't call this particularly "robust", despite the pump monkey characterization this morning in the media.

The drops in some of the previously-published numbers were, however, simply stunning.  For example, PCE (personal consumption) was previously reported for Q1/2010 as 2.13.  The revision is 1.33, a thirty percent downward revision.  That's not an error, it was a falsehood.

Worse was the services false report.  The previous reported number for Q1/2010 was 0.69.  Revised was 0.03, a downward revision of ninety-five percent.

The services revision backward was truly sickening - the entirety of 2009 was negative with the exception of the fourth quarter, where all but the first was previously reported positive, and the changes were ridiculous.  First quarter was revised down from -0.13% to -0.75%, second from +0.09% to -0.79%, and so on.  Again, that's not an error, it's a lie.

Needless to say when I get all my graph source data updated, it's going to look worse than it did - including my "government ponzi support" graph, one of my favorites. 

The futures are diving on the report, as well they should.  Not because it's bad - but because the entirety of the 2009 data set was a bald-faced lie.

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"the entirety of the 2009 data set was a bald-faced lie."

I wish I could say I'm shocked that 'they' would lie to us.

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"A bald-faced lie." Not much more to say. Sometimes I think the only people left who actually believe government economic numbers work for CNBC, and they only because they're paid to.

The latest numbers are panic-driven, pure and simple. The administration is seeing poll numbers that scare them to death, and they're trying desperately to manufacture good news before November.
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Well if your going to lie.. go big. ****ers.

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WOW on 2009, can't wait to see the updated charts compared to the charts you already had with the bogus data they used.

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CNBC also stated that the June components of the 2Q GDP were estimates, because the final numbers aren't yet available.

June was clearly the biggest slowdown month in 2Q.

What do you bet the June estimates they used to come up with the 2.4 figure prove wildly optimistic, perhaps 30-40 percent too optimistic, when we get the two revisions?

Betcha this number is eventually revised into the 1.5 percent area.

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Looks like Sept-Oct are going to be horrible with regards to the Stock Markets.

How can Cramer say anybody will be doing well in 2011?! If we go drastically downward - how can any other country's economy still be doing well?!
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Gen,

"Oh, so fairly close to half of the GDP "increase" was in fact due to inventory build. Guess what happens to you when you build inventories that you later can't sell? Hint: The first letter is "B"."

I thought it was "B"ailout unless your small and then the word is "B"ankruptcy. :)

"All three years of the revision period were revised down. Again, if a mistake or inaccuracy (as opposed to intentional falsehood) is responsible for errors, one would expect them to be normally distributed - that is, some would be positive, some negative. This is obviously not the case."

Yup, if most of the revisions are downward than someone played with the numbers when they were first reported. Three years of downward revisions should shatter a great deal of market confidence.


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Can someone confirm for me that we basically need 2.5% GDP growth just to keep up with debt service and population growth? Or am I confusing this with another figure?

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More than that.

~1% for population. Debt service is variable - total debt out is ~350% of GDP, so figure the service percentage and then figure out what's required to "tread water."

Make sure you're sitting down.

This, incidentally, is why they play Ponzi instead - the growth rate required to actually support the debt load is astronomical and with debt at these levels is, for all intents and purposes, impossible to achieve.

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I was pretty confused this last year when people I knew kept being seriously strapped for cash, money was tight at work, and all the govt. numbers were rosy. Lying to small business people to get them to spend more and risk their business for growth potential that is not and cannot be real is a very sinister thing.
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They'll blame it all on the Gulf spill. Just watch.

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~1% for population. Debt service is variable - total debt out is ~350% of GDP, so figure the service percentage and then figure out what's required to "tread water."


So, as long as we can keep debt service at around 0.4%, then everything's fine! That should be easy in a ZIRP environment, we just need to refinance a few Trillion into one-year or shorter duration bonds, at effectively zero interest, and everything balances out.

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A quick excel sheet shows...

...it would take a 4%-ish GDP annual rate to keep us at the same Debt/GDP ratio we are right now. This assumes a 1.5% growth rate in gov't spending and an interest rate on debt of 3% and a GDP tax rate of 17%.

The required GDP growth and tax rates are both extremely sensitive to the rate of growth in government spending. A 50 bp rise in government spending produces a 200 bp rise in GDP growth needed to keep our current debt/GDP ratio. And a 50 bp rise in government spending produces a 1100 bp rise in tax rate.

The interest rate on debt has little effect.
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More analysis from calculated risk.
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In fact real GDP in Q2 2010 was lower than originally reported for Q1 2010. And annualized real GDP is still 0.85% below the pre-recession peak. This means that real GDP would have to grow at a 3.4% rate over the next four quarters to reach the recession peak by the end of Q2 2011.

much more....
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2010/0....

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Graphs Ticker! Where is the updated graphs Ticker? Withdrawal setting in...
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Which graphs? The Z1-based stuff and the loans-as-percent-of economy stuff don't usually get updated until the Z1 comes out... last was in June, so figure September sometime.

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Needless to say when I get all my graph source data updated, it's going to look worse than it did - including my "government ponzi support" graph, one of my favorites.


These aren't until September?

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Posted one of them. The others won't get done until September, correct.

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the entirety of the 2009 data set was a bald-faced lie.


Anyone Who considers .GOV Inc™ information realistic or uses it for anything other than as contrary indicators is a fool.

There is no transparency, no accuracy, no honesty, no validity; Government produced information is nothing but unadulterated propaganda and deception in purest form...

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How much longer will we the people let this dishonesty continue?

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a question on the report:

"BEA" wrote..
In the first quarter, real GDP increased 3.7 percent.

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For the revision period, the change in real GDP was revised down for all 3 years: 0.2 percentage point for 2007, 0.4 percentage point for 2008, and 0.2 percentage point for 2009.


the 1Q 2010 GDP increase was 1.0 percent higher than the previous estimate of 2.7 percent. but it looks like this is (all?) attributable to the downward revisions for 2007-2009. the BEA doesn't explicitly explain why the 1Q GDP increase was revised upwards, but are we to conclude it's purely based on 4Q 2009's actual total GDP being lowered, rather than 1Q 2010's actual total GDP being raised at all?

thanks.
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