Speculative Premium - And Why The Markets Will CRASH
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Posted 2010-03-01 11:34
by Karl Denninger
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Speculative Premium - And Why The Markets Will CRASH
 

Yes, I said CRASH, and I meant it.

Why?

"Events" like this:

SINGAPORE/CAIRO, March 1 (Reuters) - Copper is likely to
climb when trading starts on Monday, lifted by uncertainty over
supply after the world's top copper producer Chile was pounded
by a massive earthquake, analysts said over the weekend.

The front-month contract opened up more than 8%.

This, despite the fact that the earthquake was hundreds of miles away from the mines in Chile and there was zero damage to them.  Some were offline for a few hours due to power failures, but none suffered any physical or structural damage, nor did their export points and the transportation network between the two.

So why did price spike more than 8% even though all this was known by the market before it re-opened for trading?

No part of the markets are trading on fundamental values, nor on forward business expectations.  They are instead trading as "hot money" repositories where speculators rotate in and out of various instruments literally on a minute-by-minute basis.

This is how crashes happen.

When there is no fundamental value underlying a market there is no floor on price.  Price then becomes one thing and one thing only - the number at which you can find another sucker to take your position from you.

This is how tulip bulbs went nuts in Holland, it is how houses went nuts in California in 2005, it is how tech stocks went nuts in 1999 and it is how oil went nuts in 2008.

But now literally everything has gone this way.

Take European national debt.  We now know that Italy, for example, was cooking their books as early as 1995.  This means that bond buyers overpaid for their bonds and took less coupon than they should have.  This should have resulted in an immediate destruction in the value of those bonds when discovered, but it did not. 

Why? 

Because there was still a bigger fool.

Tech stocks were the same thing in 1999.  These "companies" claimed the global GDP some 100 times over between the IPO-issuers in 1998 and 1999.  This, of course, is impossible.  Yet people kept buying even though mathematically 99% of them had to lose all their money.  Ultimately, they did exactly that.

Oil went to $150 in 2008 even though demand was cratering.  It then collapsed to under $40.  It is now double that, even though we have a record supply on hand, to the point that tankers are sitting around full of crude with nowhere to unload it to, and nobody to buy at the price paid.  Yet the price continues to go higher.

These conditions, historically, always produce crashes.  Each and every time.  Go ahead and look back through history with a dispassionate eye.  Find me a market that displayed a complete disconnect with fundamentals such as this and did not crash. 

You can't.

The issue for investors, of course, is that it is almost impossible to determine who will finally stand up and blow a whistle that others listen to.  These manias go on longer than anyone would think possible.  Always.  I was stunned in 1999 as the Nasdaq doubled.  Likewise in 2009 I was stunned as prices went straight up on companies that based on any dispassionate analysis are worth zero - for example, every large bank with undisclosed off-balance-sheet exposures (that would be most of them.)

The overnight move in Copper is yet another confirmation point.  Big banks leasing oil tankers to fill up and moor somewhere "waiting for price to go up" was the first indication that this mentality had taken hold last year.  Stocks were the next, of course, and now we have it in copper.

That the "animal idiocy" came just months after the 2008 crash tells me that we've learned exactly nothing.  That the idiots in places like CNBS, including most especially people like Kudlow and LIESman, who have seen enough dances to both know and be able to identify this pattern, refuse to discuss what's going on borders on criminal journalistic misconduct.

If we had indications in the real economy - that is, other than government borrow-and-spend - that we were turning the corner, I'd be a bit more sanguine.  Unfortunately no such indication has appeared, despite literally six months of claims from the media that it's "just around the corner." 

No it's not folks.  What's around the corner is another collapse, worse than the 2008 one, because the bad debt has been stinking up the joint even more as it decays into a putrid mess.

A dead fish doesn't get more palatable the longer you leave it out on the kitchen counter.  We've learned nothing collectively or in the government regulatory apparatus from the last three years - indeed, government has become drunk on the premise that it can borrow and spend over $1.5 trillion annually to present a false veneer of prosperity and economic improvement. 

But borrowing money doesn't make your economy more prosperous.  It indeed makes it less so, because you not only have to pay that money back some day, but for the duration of the time you have it outstanding you must also pay interest.

When I see a nation rocked by a massive earthquake and one of its major exports spikes upward by 8% in price when it is known to the market that disruption to that nation's production of that commodity from the event was zero, that's the bell being rung to tell you to be damn careful if you think "happy days are here again" - right here, right now.

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But now literally everything has gone this way.


yes - like Munger's recent parable where the casino becomes the only game in town...

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You forgot, gold to.

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yes - like Munger's recent parable where the casino becomes the only game in town...

At least in vegas you can get hookers to.

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Just wait - gotta get tax revenue from somewhere....

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As you aptly said many months (if not years ago) the challenge here will be capital and other asset preservation, not return on capital.

If there's no investment you can trust, the first thing any sane person should do is clear out all of their debt ASAP.

The contagion isn't spreading, it's done spreading and it's all over. What we see now is just that the symptoms of the disease that's affected all Western economies is starting to beat all efforts to cover them up!

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It's always been easy to find *****s on Wall Street - literal prostitutes as well.

Do a search for Smith Barney's boom boom room. That sort of thing has been pretty common on Wall Street for a generation at least.

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There is also the SEC attempting to make shorting anything illegal in order to prop up the house of cards a litle longer.

CNBC keeps telling me that there IS a recovery. Well, maybe if you are a defense contractor that might be true.

Who would have thought that an Obama presidency would be the greatest thing to ever happen to the military-industrial complex?
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AS IF traders would actually look at a map and concern themselves with where mines are or how far damage from the earthquake reached. They hear: CHILE/EARTHQUAKE - Aha! That's where the copper mines are - scramble scramble to get an order in.....The suckers probably couldn't find Chile on a map without Google to put a big star on it.
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here's your house of cards:

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There's only 1 problem. These type of pump monkey games are the only thing the FED has left. You think the pressure on the Fed/Treasury is enormous now?..just wait until we get a 20+% correction.

IMO looking back at this the Fed would have been wise to start raising rates in the Fall of '09. The Fed is searching for credibility but they have none. Even Bernanke has said it is impossible for the Fed to see bubbles forming until after they have popped. What good are they then? The next big downdraft in the market might be the one that ends the Fed.
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?..just wait until we get a 20+% correction.
- yeah, in the bond market. Then they will flip their pump-monkey games upside down....

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... the number at which you can find another sucker to take your position from you.


Who is playing with their own money?
It "FUND MONEY" they don't have any skin in the game.
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How far back have the markets been moving without any fundamentals? Is it post 1999 or based upon fed intervention can you go back even farther?

For example, based upon KD's tickers there are inherent boom/bust cycles in our system, but was it the Tech IPO euphoria (90s to early 2000s) that took us over the edge or the housing bubble creation (2005-present) or further back?

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Help the ignorant: So, would the spike in price be more connected to the damaged infrastructure than to the mines? If the copper cannot be easily gotten out of Chile because of damage to the ports and roads, isn't this almost the same as damage to the mines as far as foreign access is concerned? And then isn't this a good time to make a bit of money on copper? Until their infrastructure is repaired?
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Adp: I believe it was mentioned... But there was no damage to the roads to, or the ports from, which it ships.

They lost power for a while - nothing else.

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Adp: There was no damage. Power was off for a few hours - that was it.

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All the markets can't crash can they? The money has to go somewhere.
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No part of the markets are trading on fundamental values, nor on forward business expectations. They are instead trading as "hot money" repositories where speculators rotate in and out of various instruments literally on a minute-by-minute basis.


Also works the "other" way. I can remember when renting was substantially more expensive than buying a similar house (even when ALL expenses were taken into account). Or buying beef, grains, wood products, etc. well below production costs.

When speculators want to dump stuff or get rid of stuff - prices can swing widely the other way.
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All the markets can't crash can they? The money has to go somewhere.


Sure, cash, gold, silver, food, hard goods, etc.

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All the markets can't crash can they? The money has to go somewhere.
Well lets say investment bank buys a ****ton of oil, and parks it on tankers. The middle eastern man who sold it to them builds another palace. The palace is a terribly designed piece of crap, so it collapses in some natural disaster a year later.
Everyone loses.

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<i>All the markets can't crash can they? The money has to go somewhere.</i>

How much of the "money" out their will simply cease to exist when things start to fall apart. Fiat currency can cease to exist at any time and in pretty much any amount based on the perception of the market that utilizes it. if everyone see's a fiat debt as worthless, then it is and that "money" represented by the debt just ceased to exist.

The money doesnt have to go anywhere
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I'm with Adp. Even if there's no damage to any of the physical infrastructure required to get copper out of Chile - what, no one working in the mines wants to take a day off to go dig Grandma out from under her house? Or the bank that handles payroll for the mines that happens to be based in Concepicon hasn't had their ISDN knocked out? Or the fuel supplier to the mines just had their regional HQ flattened? Aren't these things much more likely to impact the mines' operating costs and thus the price of copper than teh nebuoolus "hot money"?

I have friends in Santiago and WWW connectivity has been in and out since the quake, which definitely impacts business operations. If I were a Cu mine in Chile I would definitely be seeing my operating costs go up even if my physical capital is fine.

Karl, I'm a little disappointed with you here honestly.

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Why are you disappointed? The mine operators and owners have said they're either back to full capacity or are operating at somewhat-limited capacity and the only damage was that they lost power for a few hours.

There was no infrastructure damage to the mines, transport routes or seaport. What else is there to know? The only limiting factor was electricity which is, at this point, back on.

Yes, the earthquake was nasty. But from a perspective of copper production it was a big fat ZERO, and this was known before the futures re-opened last night.

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Even if there's no damage to any of the physical infrastructure required to get copper out of Chile - what, no one working in the mines wants to take a day off to go dig Grandma out from under her house?
A day lost of production isn't going to cause a 9% price increase.

I'm willing to bet my hat that the supply of copper has not contracted a significant amount due to this earthquake. You can speculate, but I'm pretty confident you'll be shown wrong once the numbers are out.

EDIT: Karl admits that some mines were operating at somewhat limited capacity, maybe this is due to someone taking off to dig their grandmother out of rubble or anything.

But this is a stupidly high price jump we're talking about here. If this isn't hot money I'm not sure what is.

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