Obama Verdict: Insane
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Posted 2009-01-03 18:35
by Karl Denninger
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Obama Verdict: Insane
 

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result" - Albert Einstein

One of the brightest men ever to walk the earth.

President Obama (in a bit more than two weeks) doesn't even make it into the bush leagues compared to Mr. Einstein.

Here's his latest:

“These are America’s problems, and we must come together as Americans to meet them with the urgency this moment demands,” he said today in his weekly radio address. “If we don’t act swiftly and boldly, we could see a much deeper economic downturn that could lead to double-digit unemployment.”

Well, you got it half right Mr. Obama.

The half being that these are America's problems, and we must meet them with urgency.

The half you got wrong is that your prescription will make it better.

Specifically:

"The incoming 44th president, back on the U.S. mainland after a 12-day vacation in Hawaii, is working on a package of tax cuts and spending on infrastructure, such as roads, bridges and transit systems, to stimulate growth and create 3 million jobs. Eighty percent of these will be in the private sector, he said. "

Uh huh.  And where will you get the money?

Oh, you'll simply load on more debt, right?

Isn't that how we got here in the first place - spurring on more debt after the 00-03 Tech Market implosion?

Indeed.

You also have recorded history on this, which says it doesn't work.  Japan, for instance, as the WSJ points out:

"Not to spoil the party, but this is not a new idea. Keynesian "pump-priming" in a recession has often been tried, and as an economic stimulus it is overrated. The money that the government spends has to come from somewhere, which means from the private economy in higher taxes or borrowing. The public works are usually less productive than the foregone private investment."

No kidding.  Never mind that the debt remains left behind, and it continues to drag on the economy in perpetuity.

The problem is who you're listening to.  People like Buffett, who should have (and could have) avoided a huge drawdown in Berkshire's value - but didn't.  People like Geithner, who along with Bernanke know how to perform compound interest calculations, but simply didn't care during the 03-07 time frame. 

Along with Paulson they supported the removal of leverage limits, repeal of Glass-Steagall and other regulatory "reforms" that effectively let the banking system place huge bets with non-existent capital - exactly identical to walking into a Casino in Vegas and writing worthless markers.

The only difference is that when you do that sort of thing in Vegas you either go to jail for fraud or Guido breaks your kneecaps. 

In Washington DC you get made Treasury Secretary and are able to cash out $500 million smackers for yourself, tax free, then bill the Taxpayer for your obvious and blatant line of BS.

The people of this nation voted for change Mr. Obama, not "more of the same." 

Yet "more of the same" is exactly what you're proposing when it comes to economic policy, even though if you are really as intelligent as you (and others) have claimed you know full well it won't work.

10% unemployment? 

What you're doing here will guarantee 15% unemployment.  Oh, perhaps not immediately, but I'm willing to wager you won't get to the end of your first and only term before this all comes crashing down on your head, and it may happen within the year.

You cannot solve the problems this economy has until the bad debt is forced into the open and is either paid down or defaulted, the liars are locked up for their crimes, the off-balance-sheet games are permanently halted and the laws that prevented this crap from happening are reinstated and, more importantly, enforced.

I've seen exactly none of that proposed by you sir, which tells me that instead of preparing for a better future ahead of myself and my family I should instead prepare for economic and political Armageddon, for the path you are on and the one your advisers are recommending to you is certain to lead to disaster.

Oh, and if you think The American People are going to fall for it, well, how do you say "good luck" in Japanese?  Being lied to and bamboozled now for over 20 years, the people are waking up fast to the fact that folks like Madoff are not the exception - they're the rule - and that these scams, frauds and charlatans could only exist with not only a willful blind eye in Washington DC but with explicit involvement and complicity in the fraud.

Ultimately the Wizard is either forced to sheepishly admit the truth and do the right thing or he risks the people starting to pen documents that begin with the sentence "When in the course of human events......"

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This is just what we need on top of everything else, an insane person as POTUS. Whhheeeee.

I'm so tired of the insanity. Please, someone stop this ride, I want to get off! smiley


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yeah, ive always kept that quote of Einstein's in mind when dealing with circumstances that overlap with others for which my results were poor.
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It's "ganbatte." smiley

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"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

-Great line from The Wizard of OZ about sums things up perfectly.

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Karl closes with the nicest possible way to say, "This will end in violence."

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we're not in kansas any more...

starting to wonder
if we're still in amerika
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if we ever were
to start with ..

has it all been
an elusion..??

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KD - do you still give any odds of O doing the right thing at this point. I only ask bc I think that you had a 10% (I think) odds of O being in favor of genuine change. It's just curiousity on my part as to how you're handicapping the odds right now.

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"I would characterize my professional disdain as more of a professional contempt for their [Central Banker, Banker and politician] economic and financial policies, priorities, presumptions and prescriptions." - Lauren Lyster on Capital Account for Friday June 16, 2012

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0%, until he is forced.

The question has now become how the "forcing" happens, and I remain stubbornly hopeful that it will be peaceful.

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KD -
Thanks for answering...

I think that no reasonable person would hope for anything other than a peaceful force for change...the alternative is just too terrible to contemplate. Unfortunately, if the peaceful "forcing" of O doesn't happen, then we're all effectively effed.

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"I would characterize my professional disdain as more of a professional contempt for their [Central Banker, Banker and politician] economic and financial policies, priorities, presumptions and prescriptions." - Lauren Lyster on Capital Account for Friday June 16, 2012

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Karl, interesting article in The Atlantic. I swear this guy is reading every word you write in TF.

"In his first interview since the world financial crisis, Gao Xiqing, the man who oversees $200 billion of China’s $2 trillion in dollar holdings, explains why he’s betting against the dollar, praises American pragmatism, and wonders about enormous Wall Street paychecks. And he has a friendly piece of advice:

by James Fallows

“Be Nice to the Countries That Lend You Money”

Here's the link:


http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200812/fa....

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Heh, what about, "Be Nice to Countries That Buy Your Crap"?

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KD, thanks for the ticker.

Did anyone watch the History Channel show: "Crash: The Next Great Depression?" this week? I was surprised that The History Channel actually came to the conclusion that all the "fixin" the government did at the time only prolonged the depression and made it worse and our current government is trying the same **** now.

They concluded with the premise that WWII was what got us out of our hole then, and hopefully it won't take a World War to get us out of this one. The show didn't reveal anything new, but I was just surprised that the program was no champion of any of our government interventions, then or now. I just thought THC was "all" about history with no current opinions. Go History Channelsmiley


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Thanks Maple.

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I SEE DEBT PEOPLE.
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Have you guys ever considered WE are the insane ones? No?

OK, I don't buy it either. :-)

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My guess is Yobama is scared ****less...
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This week is "Armageddon Week" on the History Channel ... http://www.history.com/content/armageddo....

Time to go all-in on SRS :-)

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Goforbroke, if I want to be cheered up this week, I'll just watch the History Channelsmileysmiley

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Bear market rallies often end with good news. Election day and 'stimulus you can believe in' could be the good news that turns the market back toward fundamental valuations.

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Dashing...do you have any idea how many are expecting things to play just as you described. IT"S ****ING RIDICULOUS in fact how prevalent this view is...i say we see some decent choppy action this week with at least 2-3% downside from friday's close at some point. it'd be way too easy otherwise for those of this view. i mean every view needs some testing. then maybe we climg to 970 or so...i dont think we make it to 1000. if we do, then 1020. by then itll be time to bet your entire net worth on 3 month options and wait to cash in.

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You cannot solve the problems this economy has until the bad debt is forced into the open and is either paid down or defaulted, the liars are locked up for their crimes, the off-balance-sheet games are permanently halted and the laws that prevented this crap from happening are reinstated and, more importantly, enforced.

Granted this roots out the corruption on Wall Street and the big financial markets. But what solution do you have to these other things that were not caused by Wall Street corruption?

1) Government taxes shrinking, public servants losing their jobs, joining the unemployed further taxing the state.

2) Private companies going bust due to the economic slump, people losing their jobs, joining the unemployed and further taxing the state.

3) Pension funds' (including public ones like Calpers) losses causing an inability for retirement funds to pay promised benefits.

4) Federal Government unable to collect enough taxes to pay Social Security and Medicare promises.

5) States unable to pay unemployment benefits leading to riots and domestic terrorism.

6) The chaos causing further financial failure into a dwindling spiral and a return to an agrarian, subsistence culture.

7) People unable to pay their mortgages and millions of houses being abandoned and eventually bulldozed. No matter what the rules are, I see no benefit to the wanton destruction of real world assets needed by the American people in the time of their greatest need.

Though an essential part of recovery, I don't see how enforcing Wall Street laws is going to help one bit in 1-7 above.

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Heh, a lot of "economists" agree that regulation is anathema during a credit crisis...

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KD,

may I suggest it's time to just step back and relook at things.

Your new President is not yet in the White House. Let's not condemn him yet.

The press will make a lot of noise over the next few months ......Hey, that's what they do for a living.

My reading of American politics is that.......If you are a President Who is prepared to do the right thing by your country...... you're dead. Sad but true. History details it. Assassinations seem to be a way of life for you guys when your leader dares to confront the money people, tell me.......why is that, in a so called democracy?

I would dearly like to understand.

You guys are looking more and more like the final years of the Roman empire.

Tell me.......who will be the American "Nero"?





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