Helicopter Ben? Bah.
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Posted 2008-08-09 15:43
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Helicopter Ben? Bah.
 

This weekend's entry is a focus on "hyperinflation" .vs. "deflation" as the possible paths forward for The United States.

Let us take a purely analytical look at this matter.  I'm going to ignore people's words, because we have seen over the last few years exactly how much value you can attribute to the jawboning coming out of such asshats as Bernanke and Paulson. 

To put it bluntly, zero.  Go watch the video again if you need a reminder of the prescience and accuracy of their public statements.

No, I want to examine the two options and what they mean for people who are actually pulling the levers of policy.

Let us first define the roles here.  Bernanke, Chair of The Fed, is a Banker.  So is Chase, Morgan Stanley, Citibank, Wachovia, WaMu, Wells, etc.  All banks.  All of the people who The Fed serves are in fact bankers, and The Fed is made up of bankers.  Each and every one of them.

They make their money borrowing and lending money.  That's all they do.

But money is just a medium of exchange, really.  It has value only because other people will give you things, whether they be hard goods or services, in exchange for some of it.

Absent a willingness to make that exchange currency has value only as a way to heat your home - as fuel.

So let's assume that the bankers lend you $300,000 to buy a house.  You buy a house, but can't make the payments.  This is a microcosm of what's going on right now.

The bankers have a choice - they can force foreclosure, in which case they own a house, or they can force hyperinflation, in which case you can pay them.  Those are, in fact, the two options, although of course those are endpoints and "something in the middle" can happen too.

Which of the two would you, as a banker, prefer?

When you made the loan that $300,000 was, roughly, the equivalent of a small yacht, or a (very) fancy car.

In a deflationary environment the banker gets as much of your money as he can, and then he also gets the house!  You lose big, but does he lose?  Well, not really.  He started with an asset (money) that was roughly the utility value of the home, and he ended up with the home itself, which has the same utility value.  Further, the money he gets before you default goes up in value, as premium comes out of hard assets.

That is, he might have not only the house, but enough money to buy a yacht as well (at a distressed sale.) 

The banker makes money in terms of real value in a deflationary environment.  You, on the other hand, being debt, get rammed.

Ok, now let's look at hyperinflation.  Let's say that the government prints up $300,000 and sends it to everyone in the country.  Hurray!  You can pay off your mortgage, and you do so.

But what happens to the banker?

He gets reamed in both holes.  Yes, he has his $300,000 back, but what does that $300,000 buy?  Oh, not very much eh?  Go look at Zimbabwe, Argentina, or any other place where hyperinflation takes hold.  The banker gets stiffed in a big way (as does anyone else who's business it is to move and hold money) because what once bought a house now only buys half a house, or less.

Those who argue that Bernanke will "hyperinflate" have a tiny little problem with their thesis.  That thesis depends on Bernanke and the rest of the banks (who are, in fact, his masters as well as his servants) acting in a fashion that is explicitly against their own self-interest.

Oh, and by the way, they know this.

See, banks normally want a small amount of inflation.  Just enough to make it not worth it for you to hoard cash, as it slowly devalues.  This forces you to spend and invest, lest you see your purchasing power disappear.

But what a bank never wants to see is an inflation rate that is above their lending "spread", or the difference between their cost of funds and what they charge.  If that ever happens then they lose big; remember, all banks are leveraged and as such small "percentage" base losses get multiplied by their leverage ratio!

So exactly what is all this "poppycock talk" about helicopters and such?

Quite simple, really.  You start talking about deflation and people freak out.  You want to be Fed Chairman?  You don't dare say that you'd respond to a credit crisis by allowing deflation to take place.  Never mind that it would help you and your buddies - it positively reams everyone who is in debt, and that's 80% of the population, plus the government itself!

So no, you put on a happy face.

But would you really, if push comes to shove, choose to hyperinflate?

Oh hell no.

Look at what people do folks, not what they say

Especially when dealing with public officials. 

Every one of those folks is in their office because they're good liars.

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Every one of those folks is in their office because they're good liars.


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Typo alert:

"something in the middle" can happen to.
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So, I guess since Paulson and our Treasury are in the pockets of the FED we will not be paying back the National Debt in inflated US Dollars? I kind of thought that would begin to happen as it makes sense to have a period of higher inflation for that reason. Guess we know who is sucking on Long Duck Dongs wong and Hanky and Bendy are doing extra tours.

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This all makes sense to me if the banks were lending out there own capital. It is my understanding that the vast majority of the money they have loaned out is borrowed from somebody else. It seems to me that even if they get back the deflated asset that is worth as much in real terms as it was before, that doesn't do them much good if they owe someone else the nominal amount of money that they lent on the house in the first place. They will end up in the same boat as the forclosed borrower. This makes me think that the bankers may not be so worried about inflation since they are so paniked about getting out from under their own massive leverage. is there something I am not seeing here?
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So how can we profit from this coming deflation? Short anything and everything in sight?

Will we then see $1+ gasoline again?
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It seems to me that even if they get back the deflated asset that is worth as much in real terms as it was before, that doesn't do them much good if they owe someone else the nominal amount of money that they lent on the house in the first place. They will end up in the same boat as the forclosed borrower.

Well, not really.

See, most of what the banks borrowed is under a floating rate. Remember, they borrow short and lend long.

You think this is an accident?

Hoh hoh hoh it ain't.

Why do you think their rate paid has gone to ****?

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Which of the two would you, as a banker, prefer?


Give them another 300k so you can get that sports car to go with the boat smiley

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Ah, we finally agree. Good analysis. It will be interesting to see what happens if and/or when the goals and/or actions of the FED diverge from the goals and/or actions of the treasury.

Truly interesting times.


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Man oh man. What a Ticker for 8/9/08. Enough to put a little fear into "their" team, because some of them agree.

Okay. Someone challenged me to post what it all means in plain English. This is my interpretation and is subject to salute or ridicule, on the record.

DEFLATE = EVENTUAL RIOTS.

Now why would that happen? Again, correct as seen, but what incentive is there to produce goods and services if the expectation is that said items will fetch lower prices?

Let's see, we could ask BZH, LEN, and that whole group. Why build something if the expected result is to lose?

Or even raise it up to C, LEH and that team. Why bring in money if you can't win on it?

No different that betting thousands on the turn of a card.


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I still don't get it. I don't understand how the bank borrowing short and lending long helps them in this situation. If anything is seems like it makes it worse because they are suseptable to runs on thier deposits and not being able to roll over thier short term debt. The way I understant it is if I start a bank I have my $10,000 of capital, I go out and borrow 290,000.00 more in the short term market, then I loan $300,000.00 to Joe Blow to buy a house. I expect to make money off of the rate difference between the 290,000.00 I borrowed short and the 300,000 I lent long. If Joe Blow defalts on his mortgage and I am only able to liquidate the house for $200,000.00 I am in a world of hurt since I still owe someone else 290,000.00 Even if deflation has occured and $200,000.00 now has the same relitive value as $300,000.00 had before, the person that loaned me the money still is going to want his money back. It seems to me as a banker I would rather have the government give Joe $300,000.00 and pay off his house so that I could live to fight another day. The only thing that would be better would be if I could convince the government to give the money directly to me since I have been such a loyal campaign supporter for all these years.

I'm not saying it is the right thing to do, I just think that alot of the bankers may push for inflation in a desperate attempt to save there skins.
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Snap.

I think you pretty much covered it.

Except.

Merely 29 to 1 leverage is PRETTY conservative.

Can I get a "heh heh" from Karl?

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No no snap, you're missing it.

Why would I run on the bank if my money is getting more valuable by sitting on it?

I don't want to buy stocks with it.
I don't want to buy bonds with it.
I don't want to buy assets with it (yet, but I will)

So why would I run your bank?

Further, those short-term borrowings go to zero cost real fast. So long as the deflation happens at a relatively controlled rate the bank's spreads blow wide. At the same time as you find yourself unable to pay you get hit with penalty rates on anything they can manage to hit you with. This is WHY you see those 36% penalty rates on credit cards - be late, WHAMMO - instant 36% interest rate, which is simply an attempt by the bank to suck as much money as possible out of you before you drown (to keep them from drowning, of course.)

Yes, the banks aren't in the best shape for this - the ideal situation is a small amount of inflation. But given the choice between taking some loss and winding up with their money being worth a loaf of bread, which choice do they make?

The problem with all the "inflation" arguments is that they look at the various aggregates (e.g. M1, M', etc) but fail to account for the credit in the system that is defaulting.

Financial Sense ran this argument over the weekend but they keep ignoring the fact that the monetary base is not just existing money, but it is also the amount of credit available in the system that can be put to work. That is contacting FAST; the Fed's credit report says that consumers took on ~$13 billion in debt (most revolving) last month on their credit cards (very bad over time) but the loss in home equity value over the same month was several times that $13 billion - and we're not counting commercial property and other assets that are deflating in value.

Its easy to come up with the wrong conclusion when you only look at half the picture!

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Not only is it a matter of the bankers not wanting to inflate, but how do the bankers, or goverment, actually inflate to the point where the debts disappear?

Seriously, for hyperinflation to happen, there has to be a bunch of money on the demand side of the equation to push prices sky-high.

How do we get that kind of money on the demand side? How does the FED, or the gooberment, get money into the hands of the Sheep to the point where they can pay off their debts, and pay taxes to satisfy all the .gov entitlement spending?

They can't.

Show me how they can, and I will seriously entertain an inflationary thesis.

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I have been thinking about this Eleua since you posed the question in another thread. One way would be to Nationalize housing. There are many possibilities that could exist if the .gov started this kind of program with a heloc and debt attached to it using the FNM and Freddie owned homes. Bond investors would like it because it would still be backed by uncle sam and the sheeple would like it because they now get another round of crack that keeps them a debt slave. Out side of this Asset class(houses) I do not see another way for .gov to inflate. So I guess get ready for the riots.

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You're not going to get riots.

We didn't in the 30s and we're 99% more pussified than we were then.

Ain't gonna happen.

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No riots?

Good.

Anyone can look at photos from 1931-1933. It was orderly. People in the soup lines were wearing nice hats.


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Yeah, I don't think we are going to get Nationalized housing on a mass scale either...bring on the deflation, stay out of debt and live a simple life within your means. Can I get an Amen

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No riots?

If the economy can only support 240million people in the post-OPERATION ENDURING BUBBLE economy, then 65million people are going to have lots of free time, empty stomachs, and a great distaste for the remaining 240million.

Mix in that division happening largely upon racial lines, and you have an unqualified disaster. Europe will be having its own little war with the immigrant Muslim population.

Thank goodness we will have Obamassiah to smooth things over. I heard that he is the one we have been waiting for (at least that is his take on things).

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Danimal

Absolutely an Amen.

The numbers are the numbers.

Anyone can add up EXACTLY what their cost of existence is PER DAY.

That is like another little challenge to the members of "our" team.

Run the numbers and then tomorrow when you shower and look in the mirror, say to yourself, today I will bring in more than I spend. You don't actually have to do it every day, but over weeks or months, you HAVE to do it. Or...you are a slave to "their" team.


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Elena

Karl says no riots and I hope he is right.

I am not so much afraid of people losing their "circuses", but I am kind of afraid if they lose their "bread".

People I know ask why and I say straight out, the bread has to get to where we want to buy it, unless we make make it ourselves. Now, anyone can make bread with simple ingredients. It's all the other food that concerens me, as I do not own a cattle ranch; dairy farm; or even a backyard garden.

So unless I can exchange little pieces of paper for food, it's quickly LIGHTS OUT for me.

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We have at least 65million people that really are not supporting the cause here in the USA, but they don't riot because the remaining 240million pay them to stay at home and watch Springer.

Take away that support, and you are going to have trouble.

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Elena

Okay then. Now you are talking about taking away their "circuses" (or is it "circusses")

That could be a problem. Without the distractions, they might get upset and then there is the POTENTIAL for riots.

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Blunt,

I'm thinking that they will lose their checks on the first of the month and their cable TV.smiley




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Uh huh. Now, we're getting at what I've been saying for a while. They're going to let everything deflate, but at everyone who is in debt's expense....which INCLUDES THE GOVERNMENT!

This is not your grandma's depression. The USA was not in debt then as they are now. The bankers choose what THEY want and what they end up with is all the money, all the assets and no ****ing country. Nice.

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