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Asimov
Posts: 104615
Incept: 2007-08-26
East Tennessee Eastern Time
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Good to hear!
(Might want to put "hard" after "note it is extremely".)
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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Uncleoxidant
Posts: 2204
Incept: 2007-07-10
Stumptown
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What's the Social Security Number issue?
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I am not a consumer. I am a Citizen!
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Wearedoomed
Posts: 3610
Incept: 2009-01-14
slightly red state
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Too late. He's already God our Dear Leader. The proletariat has embraced His benevolent leadership, and mere mortals such as judges shall not commit lèse-majesté against Him!
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Lies, all of it.
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Quick
Posts: 112
Incept: 2008-03-08
southeast
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It is about time.
BUT
I can only guess at what type of phone calls or visits it would take to sway the 'facts' in a case such as this ??
Damn a government that makes me think of such things ! !
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Kylafoon
Posts: 2471
Incept: 2009-02-05
Zombie Portal Lookout
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What Quick said +1
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"...But whenever we see things done wildly, but taken tamely, then the State is growing insane..." - Gilbert Keith Chesterton 1910
"I found a flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works." - Alan Greenspan, October 2008
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Drench
Posts: 28631
Incept: 2009-11-10
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Goforbroke
Posts: 5402
Incept: 2007-11-30
Just call me 'Comrade'
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Someone started a thread in the Bar a couple of days ago regarding "Black Swan" events.
I thought this puppy was dead. Guess not!
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We have met the enemy and it is us. -- Pogo
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Flaps10
Posts: 5352
Incept: 2008-10-17
seattle
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If this moves forward there will be a series of accidents as there were in Clinton's years.
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"Better to die on your feet than live on your knees"
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Quillbill
Posts: 1469
Incept: 2009-06-23
Northwest Illinois
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Oh brother....  How the hell is ANYBODY or ANYTHING going to win this argument after the posting of the forged document did absolutely nothing? We should all just get used to serving our masters.....or fall to some "accident"
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It is a new day....DO SOMETHING WITH IT!
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Goforbroke
Posts: 5402
Incept: 2007-11-30
Just call me 'Comrade'
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David Welden is the plantiff. Google "David Welden picture" and one of the first pictures which pops up is the following. It's Mr. Welden's Facebook picture ...  OK, TF'ers ... whose avatar is that? And ... here's the Judge ...  https://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/....
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We have met the enemy and it is us. -- Pogo
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Captbill
Posts: 843
Incept: 2008-07-22
Arizona's West Shore
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As KD said, "O" could have easily put an end to this a long time ago--but he can't.
Going to get interesting...
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Incredible. There's Smith and he's standing there and he's got the iceberg warning in his ****ing hand, excuse me, his hand, and he's ordering more speed. Lewis Bodine, RMS Titanic
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Attilahooper
Posts: 1996
Incept: 2007-08-28
New York, by way of Montreal Canada.
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Nice timing. More fodder for a repuke win. Fingers crossed for RP, that would throw a wrench.
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Musicandnature
Posts: 2001
Incept: 2007-12-05
NJ
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^ This avatar is Lunatic Fringe's. Kitty no like his helmet.
Imagine if the dems have to run someone other than O. He sure doesn't deserve re-election.
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Since it costs a lot to win, and even more to lose, You and me bound to spend some time wonder'n what to choose. Goes to show, you don't ever know, watch each card you play and play it slow...Wait until that deal come round, don't you let that deal go down, no no. Garcia/Hunter.
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Twainfan
Posts: 151
Incept: 2010-12-01
Minnesota
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I hope this does go somewhere. However, I never understood why people weren't approaching this from the other side... "natural born citizen"? His father was not a US citizen which automatically disqualifies him from being POTUS. Same goes for Marco Rubio.
I guess we take what we can get. Isn't there also a law now in AZ that says all candidates must show the original long form bc before they can be on the ballot?
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Goforbroke
Posts: 5402
Incept: 2007-11-30
Just call me 'Comrade'
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Do VPs need to be "natural born citizens?" Didn't someone start a thread somewhere regarding an Obama/Clinton ticket? "They" are great chess players ... always many steps ahead of you. Quote:The hearing on January 26th at 9am is public so be there if you can. The location is the JUSTICE CENTER BUILDING, 160 Pryor St, Atlanta, GA – COURTROOM G40 on the ground floor. http://libertylegalfoundation.org/certif....
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We have met the enemy and it is us. -- Pogo
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Lowbeyond
Posts: 17102
Incept: 2008-02-11
CO aka West NJ/East CA
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for a good wtf, read Obama’s Motion to Dismiss. they argue that the democratic party has a right of association therefore they can put anyone up for candidate for potus they want...the rest of the constitution doesn't mattet
that's the best they can do .. err umm... ok
so much time and $ wasted when all he has to do is make a phone call, or mail a letter to hawaii authoring the release of the microfilm.
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Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?!
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Patentleathershoes
Posts: 10003
Incept: 2007-09-13
On the Daisy Chain
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Oh boy.
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"An unborn child's property rights are protected by law. His right to life is not." Ronald Reagan
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Mpilar
Posts: 5804
Incept: 2009-01-05
Nashville, TN
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Quote:I hope this does go somewhere. However, I never understood why people weren't approaching this from the other side... "natural born citizen"? His father was not a US citizen which automatically disqualifies him from being POTUS. Same goes for Marco Rubio. That's the side they're taking...in fact, in the opposition to the motion to dismiss, they clearly state that his "citizenship" or social security number is not in question, but the "natural born citizen" part is. Quote:
The matter before this Court has nothing to do with the birth place of the Defendant, nor
does it assert that he is not a citizen of the United States. In fact, limited to this challenged
primary election, the Plaintiff will stipulate that the Defendant was born in Hawaii, that the
Defendant is a U.S. Citizen, and that the Defendant was Constitutionally-qualified to serve as a
U.S. Senator. The Plaintiff makes no assertion regarding the Defendant’s passports, or social
security number, or any other fact related to the Defendant, other than the one fact asserted at the
beginning of this opposition: that the Defendant’s father was not a U.S. citizen
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- Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
- These are the times that try men's souls. - T. Paine
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Firefly76
Posts: 49
Incept: 2011-08-09
Houston TX
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I shed tears of blood for our dear leader. Or maybe that our new leader will be the Hillabeast!!!! :-Þ
Oh to kick that high spending squatter family out of the WH. Maybe the people would run them out of the country too
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Analog
Posts: 551
Incept: 2010-12-29
arkansas ozarks
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i have a 6 month old bet with my socialist stepson that Hillary will oppose Romney .
it's only way dems can look more centrist
watch convention - "Here i come to save the day"
a.
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Swingtrader
Posts: 9108
Incept: 2007-08-12
United Oligarchic Goldman Sachs States of America
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Bwahqahhah
Now we are going to find out if we really are simply a larger, and later version of Argentina.
If this doesn't get resolved prior to the election - we are ****ing Argentina for sure.
Actually, I already think we are, I really just want there to be some hope for us.
Frankly, I've just about given up hope that the rule of law will mean anything.
Been a pretty sad state of affairs. Where it looks like laws only apply to the serfs.
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Swing said "Well, it is collapsing as we watch.This is what it looks like." Australian federal judge Jayne Jagot, doing what US judges need to do!
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Twainfan
Posts: 151
Incept: 2010-12-01
Minnesota
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Mpilar , I guess I didn't read far enough into it. My bad. I could have sworn though that AZ did pass or try to pass a law that would require Obama to supply a legal copy of his long form.. altho that could be a moot point as well since we've seen the forged one.
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Mpilar
Posts: 5804
Incept: 2009-01-05
Nashville, TN
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Twainfain, I'm not sure whatever happened to the AZ law, I remember that though. I don't think it matters that much though, since SCOTUS has already defined "natural born citizen" and Obama doesn't qualify based on Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167 (1875).
I'm happy to see this moving forward based on this instead of the forged birth certificate...I think this has a better chance of making an impact.
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- Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
- These are the times that try men's souls. - T. Paine
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Thorack
Posts: 10
Incept: 2011-04-19
Aberdeen Proving Grounds
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Ok, so what happens when its found out Pres Obama is a fraud? Is everything he has done null and void?
I dread what the lawyers will think up if Pres Obama is found to be a fraud? This could cause serious peril to our country.
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