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2018-03-02 08:25 by Karl Denninger
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Is Trump Trying To START A Dirty Civil War?
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This is the sort of position that can do exactly that.

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said during a meeting with lawmakers on gun violence. “Take the guns first, go through due process second.”

The President took an oath to uphold the Constitution and his statement says he intends to violate it - specifically, the 5th Amendment:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

"Liberty" includes all of one's Constitutional Rights -- including the Second Amendment.

You cannot "take the guns first, go through due process second" without literally burning the entire Constitution wholesale and declaring yourself dictator.

Now it's possible that Trump didn't mean what he said.  But if so then he has an obligation to so-state and explicitly withdraw that statement right damn now, because until he does every single person in this nation can reasonably assess that he indeed means it.

This is unacceptable from a President.  Any President.  And it cannot be "walked back", it can only be confirmed or repudiated with a clear statement that The President is not above the law or the Constitution, that this President will respect said Constitution and that no action will be taken against anyone in this regard in violation of due process and, should any state or local instrumentality attempt to do so the federal government will enforce same including, if necessary, the arrest of said state or local entities.

If that is not forthcoming, and I fully expect that it is not, then this really is a test of the American people.

Do we still have a Constitution?

Do we still have a Bill of Rights?

Or did Trump literally just burn it wholesale?

It's a "Yes" or "No" question folks, and IMHO it would be wise to consider how you're going to deal with what is very likely on the horizon if the answer is "No."

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