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Joancrawford
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Ascenzm-Am I a bad American citizen for stating that I would not shed a tear if Vlad vaporized the White House?


F*CK NO! Sheeeit...I'll do you one better, bro. I'll create a new dance when Ole Vlad hits that particular target. Gonna call it the Pennsylvania Avenue Polka.

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Clay3482
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I was born in 1971, so I was either to young or not around for the events that shaped the last 50 or so years.

JFK, MLK, Bobby, Nam, Cuban Missile Crisis, Watergate, Deepthroat, Woodstock, Oil embargo, etc etc

Looking over that time-line and the history of it as a young man serving his country I would get mad, and definitely not understand how the young people of that day did not trust their government, the leaders, and protested everything the government did.

The Man

it was a bad thing that even Waylon Jennings sung about.

Fast forward 30 years and I am now shocked at how the young people of this generation are not only in lock step with the current MAN in charge but willing to walk in lock step with him with its cancel culture.

Upon reflection I say all of this because it seems as though the movement the 60s was fueled by money and influence from the USSR and today's movement or lack there of is being bankrolled by the CCCP. The musicians, athletes, and cultural influencers are in support of the MAN. I dont understand this. Are the young not supposed to be against the people in charge, are they not supposed to be wanting change?

Am I wrong?

What about in the 1930s and the months leading up to December 1941. There was Lend Lease, and the Sanctions placed on Japan strangling them from oil, and raw materials needed for a modern society. Was the common person not influenced, or at least hearded like cattle to the direction that the elite class wanted them to go?

If that is the case and this is not a repeat but a rhyme are we not headed for nuclear war? Is the US not headed for collapse to be built back better ..... as a peon slave existence?

Sorry for the meaningless rant. I just dont understand how and what has taken over the collective soul of the common man, and especially the young people. I never thought I would see a generation of young people conform so blindly to the narrative of the MAN, no matter what that narrative is today, knowing next week the narrative will be something else.
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Does all this "money" being poured down the Kiev hole count towards exporting inflation? It's not like Ukraine actually has anything worth "leasing" back to us, the re-booted name notwithstanding (all the useful resources they have are already in the greasy grips of global capital).
Tsherry
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HS classmate of my daughter (just about to turn 30) dropped dead last week suddenly. She didn't really know him, I just happened to see they were in the same class.

Huh.

Two or three obits in the paper today with either DDS (dropped dead suddenly) or DDTC (dead due to cancer). The cancer deaths for the past several months almost always state that the cancer returned aggressively in 2021 and the deceased put up a valiant fight.

Long-time co-worker of a friend tried to off himself over the weekend after his wife said, 'I'm done' and on-going depression from multiple serious impacts to his health which look eerily like post vaxx issues. Heart, cognition, multiple clotting problems and serious digestive issues. Formerly a marathoner, he and his wife hiked the PCT multiple times, the last time only three years ago. Sunday he hiked up to his favorite trail on top of a local mountain (still covered in many feet of snow), took a bunch of meds and passed out. A XC skier just happened to find him before hypothermia and the drugs took him out.

I can imagine the helo ride from the top of the mountain to the hospital cost a pretty penny.

He's alive and in the mental health ward at the big hospital.

Probably dead soon due to, let's say, 'poor life choices' in choosing a tested-bad-and-took-it-anyway injection of mystery poison.

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Exelitepwrlftr
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Isn't Colbert the idiot who did that vaccination song and dance where grown "men" where dancing around and singing whilst dressed up as hypodermic needles?

As bugs Bunny would say - what a maroon.......
Sonoran_monk
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@Jwm_in_sb - If you take Karl's estimate of 1 in 30 with severe adverse consequences then the rest of them are skating by on luck for now.

If the damage is persistent and accumulative then these people have an internal time bomb with a shorter timer with each booster.

Another reason could be the obfuscation of the source of any problems away from the shot, e.g. all of the "unexpected(ly)" happenings reported lately.
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BTW Karl - no need to post this but just a quick question since I know you moderate these posts. I used to have access to, and enjoy participating in The Bar but it was removed quite some time ago.

I really didn't know what happened as I always attempt to comply with ticker forum TOS. Was just curious, that's all....

Chris

Reason: fixed poor grammar
Sonoran_monk
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Joancrawford wrote..
Am I a bad American citizen for stating that I would not shed a tear if Vlad vaporized the White House?

I can't say I wasn't hoping for something interesting to happen during the last State of the Union gathering. Giant meteorites are so bad at showing up on time.
Redjack
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Family is triple jabbed, and on their THIRD round of COVID.

Each round is worse.

Makes me sad to a point. But only to a point.
Sandgrounder71
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Was reading last night about US troops already being garrisoned in Finland prior to a vote on its NATO membership application.

Does nobody in the US Government understand how the rest of the world works? Russia will not under any circumstances tolerate the US military on its doorstep, hence its actions in Ukraine. As far as Putin is concerned he is fighting an existential threat with his SMO. US troops in Finland is an antagonistic position which seriously risks opening a new front. Russia is not messing around here. They have been planning for this for some years now.

I think we are some way off nuclear weapons being used by Moscow. They have no real need to, unless of course NATO does first. Their hypersonic conventional ability is a game changer in that regard, as they can pretty much hit whichever target they want with impunity, as long as they have enough stocks.

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@Exelitepwrlftr - Bar access, other than for those not grandfathered from the former setup, is dynamic and gated based on participation over time. Thus it can go the same way it comes if you stop participating.

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Prof_dilligaf
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"There's a wide variety of people who have put forward the "idea" that you can have a "limited" nuclear exchange of some sort."

There's an amazing variety of people who think that some magical how all the nukes don't fly when the first one goes up. Many are deluded by hope, but others just have post-war Lord Humungus fantasies, like the guy on ZH who insisted that as long as you're not within 3km of a nuke blast, you're fine, and that nuclear winter is a "myth", because "they've exploded thousands of nukes and it's never happened".

Of course, the dopes agitating for a hot war can also spend $13 billion on an aircraft carrier on which the toilets don't work right, much less all the new hi-tech gear that was supposed to make it the super-duperest thing evah: https://www.popularmechanics.com/militar....
Sandgrounder71
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And if the US does not start to behave, I think the Russians will have no problem opening a new front in the Middle East with Iran/ Syria and Hezbollah going after US assets in the region and making things difficult in Israel.

Moscow and Tel Aviv certainly don't seem to be on great speaking terms right now for a number of reasons. I suspect Moscow has been quite canny in Syria, letting Israel do its thing in and over Syria so that Moscow can get a better view on Israeli operational capability.

I also think one the reasons the US effected regime change in Pakistan the other week, so there is a more compliant Pakistan government in the event it kicks off in the Persian Gulf.

It is brewing.
Aerius
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Tickerguy wrote..
No they don't @Frat; it may look that way, but the problem is that the odds of them getting directly involved and thus glowing too are nearly 100% if it happens.

There's a wide variety of people who have put forward the "idea" that you can have a "limited" nuclear exchange of some sort. The problem with that thesis is that someone always loses, and the loser always is sorely tempted to push the button on the way down the drain and nail everyone else, or for "something to go wrong" and one of them lands in an "unexpected" (whether really true or not) place.


One of my profs in university worked in the nuclear missile sub programs back in the day and had some interesting stories for our class, one of them related to nuclear doctrine.

As you noted there is no limited exchange, if one flies they all fly and the exchange doesn't end until everyone is out of nukes. Next is targeting. Obviously, whichever nuclear powers are in a conflict with each other will launch against their opponent, but they will also launch against any potential rivals who are looking to fill the power vacuum after they've eliminated each other. Which means if the US and Russia decide to take each other out, BOTH of them will also send enough doses of instant sunshine in China's direction to cripple them and prevent them from making a power grab.
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@Exelitepwrlftr - Bar access, other than for those not grandfathered from the former setup, is dynamic and gated based on participation over time. Thus it can go the same way it comes if you stop participating.


Thanks Karl. That would likely explain it. I was really active for a while with the CONjob-19 stuff but took a bit of a break for a while when I got sick of incessant paranoia around the globe and in the Jospeh Goebbels MSM.

I guess I need to step things up? :)
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@Greenacr

Sounds like you are controlling what you can. Here are a couple of things that are beyond control.

Genetics:
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/how-bl....

Luck of the draw:
https://howbadismybatch.com/

Non-jabbed, I have personally cared for five people with covid. Up close and personal exposure to the first and second flavors of covid and probably Omicron as well and have at this point, yet to test positive for Covid or have antibodies.


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Heartlander
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@Grevmojo
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@Heartland - "I even ask my anti-vaxxx friends: The same media who lied and lied and LIED to you for two years, you are now going to believe about all things Ukraine and Russia? Why on earth would you believe people whom you know to be liars?"

And what do they say?

Nothing.
Deer in headlights.

But at least I've planted a seed of doubt.

By the way, I had another thought about why even the Covid-vaxxx-skeptical have jumped on board the Ukraine wagon. Covid was a new thing, but the drumming up of Russophobia has been going on for decades, as has the demonization of Putin, personally. The Russophobic, anti-Putin brainwashing has been so relentless, for so long, practically in the air we breathe, that even otherwise skeptical people readily believe the worst about Russia and only the best about Ukraine and its hero, St. Zelenskyy.

Yeltsin left Russia impoverished and dismal as the 1990s came to an end. Putin came in, in 2000, and quickly started breaking up the looters' free-for-all. He put Russia back on its feet. For that, he is loved by his own people... and hated with a white-hot fury by the entitled Masters of the Universe -- who happen to own all our major media outlets.
Tsherry
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Upon reflection I say all of this because it seems as though the movement the 60s was fueled by money and influence from the USSR and today's movement or lack there of is being bankrolled by the CCCP. The musicians, athletes, and cultural influencers are in support of the MAN. I dont understand this. Are the young not supposed to be against the people in charge, are they not supposed to be wanting change?

Am I wrong?

Not really, but it seems to me that the youth of the 60's had too much handed to them in a society that was quite straight-laced by comparison to that of the current utes, who were indulged in anything and everything from an early age, free of a moral compass provided by their parents, those rebels of the 60's. The 60's kids might have had to work for things, and some really struggled, but virtually none of them had anything like the hardship of their parents or grandparents from the 1930's-40's.

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What about in the 1930s and the months leading up to December 1941. There was Lend Lease, and the Sanctions placed on Japan strangling them from oil, and raw materials needed for a modern society. Was the common person not influenced, or at least hearded like cattle to the direction that the elite class wanted them to go?


I think the media played the role there of telling the good people what they were supposed to in unvarnished racial and intellectual propaganda: that the expansionist Japanese Empire needed to be controlled, that Europe needed the support and wealth of the United States and that merely loaning them equipment was all that was needed to stave off the nutty but ambitious lance corporal with the funny mustache, and that England was worth preserving at all costs.

My opinion of course. I was born in 1960 after all.

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If that is the case and this is not a repeat but a rhyme are we not headed for nuclear war? Is the US not headed for collapse to be built back better ..... as a peon slave existence?


I feel we are most certainly headed for a nuclear war, especially heightened these days. I feel this way because I cannot recall in any case where a weapon was developed and ultimately never used. They've ALWAYS been used. The use of this particular one will occur at the hands of the grandchildren or great grandchildren of the inventors of the weapon. It may start 'slowly' but will get out of control within minutes to hours. Tactical goes strategic in scale almost immediately.

There will be an adaptive 'recovery'. It will not resemble Star Trek. It may be The Postman , or The Road, or something to that effect.

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Sorry for the meaningless rant. I just dont understand how and what has taken over the collective soul of the common man, and especially the young people. I never thought I would see a generation of young people conform so blindly to the narrative of the MAN, no matter what that narrative is today, knowing next week the narrative will be something else.


Hardly meaningless. The young people are taken care of by their parents still, or the .gov, or the companies they work for...or so they believe. Their chains are wrapped in luxurious layers of nothingness, they eat all they like of food that is bad for them grown thousands of miles away, they are entertained on their personal tracking devices with meaningless games that appear to be for fun, but are actually used to reveal choices that they will make in the future, but at the moment they are utterly unaware of in their ignorance.

They have easy lives, and as long as someone else is making the adult choices, they are quite happy in their servitude and allegiance to people that long ago enslaved them.

They've bought the payment for their lifestyle, with everything that comes along with it. Actual, true freedom of choice and freedom of existence would actually terrify them.

Freedom means success or failure, and failure in the truest form of freedom means starvation and death when you **** up. Success means you live, can feed yourself and your family, have your own firmly held beliefs, and chart your own course in fair weather and foul.

Failure's over your shoulder, so you don't look that way. You look ahead. And that's scary to most people.

I could go on, but choir and all....

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Joancrawford
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Heartlander-Putin came in, in 2000, and quickly started breaking up the looters' free-for-all. He put Russia back on its feet. For that, he is loved by his own people... and hated with a white-hot fury by the entitled Masters of the Universe -- who happen to own all our major media outlets.


As Church Lady would say: "....ah yes, now, WHO could that be? Could it be......SATAN?"

Well, not exactly, Church Lady. But the answer rhymes with "news".

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Don't f*ck with me fellas! This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

America-it was a good run while it lasted. RIP!
Moconserv
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@ Clay3482 .....all I can say is 40 years of public school indoctrination

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Afields
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Today's number's from OHSU in Oregon:

As of Tuesday, May 10

Patients hospitalized with COVID-19

OHSU: 18
Hillsboro Medical Center: 4
OHSU Hospital and OHSU Health Hillsboro Medical Center hospitalization details:
8 Not Fully Vaccinated
9 Fully Vaccinated
5 Fully Vaccinated with Booster

5 Patients in ICU
2 Not Fully Vaccinated
2 Fully Vaccinated
1 Fully Vaccinated with Booster

2 Patients on a Ventilator
0 Not Fully Vaccinated
1 Fully Vaccinated
1 Fully Vaccinated with Booster

The Vex prevents serious disease my ass.... I've been tracking these numbers for awhile now, and these ratios of the vexed and un-vexed are typical though sometimes there are even less un-vexed.
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Old colbert got the covaids? Again? Ha! You finally did it you son of a bitch, you made me laugh! Usually this guy is as funny as a (totally not vax induced) heart attack but this coof gag is actually pretty funny!

Going to have to admit I got confused by that whole "Vaxscene" video he did. I didn't know it was about the coof vex, thought it was a PSA for visiting cali. You know, a PSA reminding you not to step in the piles of human **** (colbert) on the streets and to avoid the same with the ****ing aids needles everywhere. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle!

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My wife watches the Today Show every morning. One of the hosts, Samantha Guthries been out so far this week with her second round of covid. I used to think that when these people got vaccinated on camera Spring of last year they were all getting saline or whatever. Maybe they did get the real jabs. Shes also the host who used to press airline executives when interviewing them if theyd support vaccine proof papers to fly. She did this several times. Good to see shes winning the stupid.

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Clay3482 Wrote:
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Looking over that time-line and the history of it as a young man serving his country I would get mad, and definitely not understand how the young people of that day did not trust their government, the leaders, and protested everything the government did.

The Man

it was a bad thing that even Waylon Jennings sung about.

Fast forward 30 years and I am now shocked at how the young people of this generation are not only in lock step with the current MAN in charge but willing to walk in lock step with him with its cancel culture.


Because those Protestors, From the Late 60's & Early 70's.. Protesting Against the MAN..

Came outta those Liberal Colleges, back in the Day..

Landed in Fed. Gov positions/Institution.. Or Indoctrinating New Marxists,

Have become The MAN and power that comes with it, and with realization of Power, & They like it..

Same "New" Boss, same as the Old Boss, Or should I say *The MAN*..

smileysmileysmileysmiley

Here, I get too wave MY Flag.. smiley

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Jpg
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Susanlauren wrote..
That said, I am not sure I like who I am becoming as a result of the last two years of pure unadulterated bull****.

Keep in mind what Adm. James Bond Stockdale said, reflecting on his 7+ years "checked-in" at the Hanoi Hilton:

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When asked which prisoners didn't make it out of Vietnam, Stockdale replied: Oh, that's easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, 'We're going to be out by Christmas.' And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they'd say, 'We're going to be out by Easter.' And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart. This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end - which you can never afford to lose - with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

(emphasis mine)
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