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Hapie
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Incept: 2020-07-25

Texas
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It is quite possible, in fact probable, that the left does not believe a word of its own BS. After all, all humans do have a Neocortex!

The left is just pushing their nonsense, e.g. their inability to define a woman, men getting pregnant, not recognizing life even after heart beats, and a whole bunch of their other nonsense, and their many other gaslighting attempts, only to force the rest of us to agree with their BS, and thereby become subservient to them.

They have been implying that there is nothing to discuss, they are in power and control and hence their attempt at the so-called "Ministry of Truth"!

And their repetitive deployment of BLM and Antifa to cause "riots", and probably more acts of terrorism in the future using their freshly imported terrorists from other countries, are to keep telling us that they are at war with us. We have no rights, including free speech, and they and only they have all the rights, including getting away with genocide without accountability, as they did with the mRNA injections.

So, either way, they leave us no choice but to fight!

A civil war appears to be a lot more imminent now; it will at least avoid a world war!

Kwwilson
Posts: 30
Incept: 2022-03-02

N. PNW
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@engineertype wrote:
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I am an old man, so it matters little to me, but I morn the life my grandchildren will live.


Ill try to keep my reply upbeat, but Im not very upbeat today, so engineertype, if it seems
Im coming down really hard on you, I probably dont mean it to be personally directed as much as it may seem.
That said, I find your post above to be outright offensive, and an abdication of your responsibility. One of my favourite quotes of all time is that societies grow great when men plant trees that they will never sit in the shade of. Id suggest you go find a tree, and sit under it for a while. Ponder how your grandchildren will enjoy the shade.
If on reflection you determine that the society left behind might be less than desirable, perhaps consider which trees you might plant, or fertilize, to make your grandchildrens society great again.
Gen X parent&Grandparent here. Millennial and really early Gen Z kids. Some of the millennials may be a lost cause, but the gen z are just trying to make their own way, underpaid, limited opportunity, into a **** storm of inflation and Tyranny. Smart enough not to go to college, waste time and money, without a really clear direction that they wish to pursue. But wasted working in trades type work, struggling in one of the highest cost of living areas of North America. Im trying to keep them nearby so that if (when) things go pear-shaped I may be able to offer them some assistance.
In the meantime, Im planting the very few trees that I am able, and determining how best to fertilize them in the future. Im not optimistic, but it would please me to lead the charge that permits my children to enjoy a long life sitting under beautiful shade trees.
Kwwilson
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N. PNW
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Hapie wrote..
An civil war appears to be a lot more imminent; it will at least avoid a world war!

A-ha. Theres upbeat! Thanks.
And no, Im not joking. That is seriously a parallel that I hadnt connected yet, and i see optimism in that.
Jw.
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Incept: 2019-10-10

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@Kwwilson

You are assuming he hasn't planted any trees... He could in fact have planted many more trees than you and found the process to be unworthy as we are where we are right now as a country, which is likely far worse off than when he was young.

If my grandfather was alive today he would likely share engineer's sentiment, he lied to go to Germany at 17 to fight the very people who have taken over both sides of our government. We have fallen far more to today from his viewpoint than we have since I was born, since my parents were born, since I was born...etc.

Attacking people on assumptions is uprooting trees and it sure as **** isn't leading any type of productive charge into making the USA a better place...
Kikknback
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Incept: 2020-03-17

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I "almost" bought another boat last week.

I'm glad I didn't pull the "trigger", now, so I can use those funds to ensure the liquor cabinet is thoroughly stocked for the impending fireworks about to "get underway".

There is zero Statesman in any City / County / State / Federal level government positions. They are "ALL" there for the monetary value, and to make the "right" connections to benefit themselves and their family financially for the rest of their lives.

They are the lowest I.Q. idiots to ever inhabit this planet, and they represent, not you, but only themselves.

Remember that until the day you die.

They are idiots, losers who never accomplished anything real in life.

One miracle true "Statesman", if he were to luck into office, will never be able to change a tyranny run system that has its wheels oiled by traitors every single day at all levels of government.

For you idiots who believed in the TROJAN TRUMP, he wasn't that "True Statesman", and for you idiots who yearn for his return, so he can finish the job, you need to run for office, so you can join the same level of "Low I.Q. brilliance".

Long popcorn and liquor. You'll need them, so you can get the laughs out of your system before the crying starts.

I won't cry, I have the REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, and she will stand, rise up and re-declare her rightful Independent Sovereignty as a Legally Independent Sovereign Nation under International Law that was "illegally" annexed by the corrupt tyranny government of the U.S.A., just like Hawaii was too.

Do you people think these Traitors, going back not decades but centuries, give a damn about your Freedom when they will "ILLEGALLY" annex a "whole" Independent Sovereign Nation, not just once, but twice?

If they will ILLEGALLY usurp the Freedom of an Independent Sovereign Nation, they will usurp your God given right to Free Speech, and your God given Right To Bear ARMS.

You really think they have the morals to represent and defend your Freedom, or even "believe" in the oath they swore to?

They are the most disgusting, and immoral human beings living on the planet and they are TRAITORS!

I'll now end, and defer to my signature.

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Sonoran_monk
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Incept: 2021-08-16

Between a saguaro and an arroyo.
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Why would they bother to declare martial law or anything like the constitution invalid when they just act as if and get away with it?

Lock downs, gun laws, Patriot Act, asset confiscation, disinfo czar, warrantless searches, unequal protection with special victim groups, etc.

Rachael Levine, that dude is definitely NOT kosher.
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Sonoran_monk
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Incept: 2021-08-16

Between a saguaro and an arroyo.
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@Kikknback - I don't get what the trump 2024 people honestly think he is going to do if by some outside chance he got back in again. Four more years of getting punked by the commie press? Four more years of him accomplishing none of his promises?

Also, how is Texas going to rise up with that lack of Statesmen you mentioned?
Tickticktick
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This guy makes an interesting argument(s) regarding the "history" of the Constitution and the lead-up to it, etc. Very interesting arguments, while I will try and summarize here so you can determine whether it piques your interest:


http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/the-p....

and

http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/how-i....


Basically, he says that the present "Constitution" is not legitimate, because it never really superseded the original Articles Of Confederation ("AOC", which, he claims, tries to keep the Federal Govt. small and most of the governing functions local). To wit, the framers of the "Constitution" were sent to Philadelphia to create a set of recommended changes to the AOC to address some deficencies and issues, and then those changes were to be proposed and incorporated as amendments to the AOC............instead, the framers (especially the "Federalists") wrote an entirely new Constitution, one that allowed for an expansion of the Federal Govt. without end.

In particular, he claims (perhaps not in the article mentioned above, but in other posts) that the AOC had a dissolution provision in it, that required a certain voting percentage of the states to "sunset" it, and that this step was never accomplished.........the framers skipped over that step and went straight for a brand new ruling document.....hence the AOC is still a valid controlling document, and is in many ways in direct conflict with the "Constitution" (and all its subsequent amendments).

I don't have the time or training to go and research this thesis completely, but is sounds like a typical "situation normal, all ****ed up" type of outcome that occurs when greedy people get together to fight over any type of price....

If any constitutional lawyers are on here, please chime in........
Eleua
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The entire point of this is the conglomeration of Scotch-Irish dominated media empires is being threatened with having ONE, JUST ONE that isn't beholden to their editorial control.

ONE.

That's why this is being brought in to become a defecto standard to bring it to heel. No coincidence that all those that are calling for censorship or being tapped to run this abomination are likewise ethnically Scotch-Irish.

For fun, look up what Henry Ford said about the Scotch-Irish holding total control over the media. That was from 100 years ago.

Draw your own conclusions.

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Tinman
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I've said it before. The only way you stop psychopaths is to send sociopaths after them. They can be incredibly cruel. But they have a moral bent to them. It is going to happen. They might live. I don't know. But they made that choice right? It is not on us to answer for that sin.
Veeger
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@Tickticktick

All well and good. Even if true--so what? The current practice has been / is to ignore these type of annoying details.

Yawn.
Sane
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TickTickTick wrote..
instead, the framers (especially the "Federalists") wrote an entirely new Constitution, one that allowed for an expansion of the Federal Govt. without end.

In his book, "Democracy: The God That Failed", Hoppe gives multiple reasons why every government will always expand without end, becoming more tyrannical until it collapses, or causes a revolution. The Constitution may allow that to occur faster than the Articles of Confederation, but it would have occurred under the Articles of Confederation without the Constitution anyway. It's a really good book. And depressing.
Tickticktick
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All well and good. Even if true--so what? The current practice has been / is to ignore these type of annoying details.

Well, that may be correct, but remember, the AOC didn't include a bill of rights, so in one fell swoop, if-and-when push comes to shove (and it's coming), then it no problemo for the lawfare gang to point out that the Constitution is not really a valid document, the AOC is (it never expired), and there goes --- in one fell swoop --- the 1A, 2A, 4A, 5A, and all the rest......and they are legally done away with.


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In his book, "Democracy: The God That Failed", Hoppe gives multiple reasons why every government will always expand without end, becoming more tyrannical until it collapses, or causes a revolution.

Aristotle, in The Politics --- his reflections upon various governing systems and their characteristics --- points out the democracy is a "perverted" system of government.
Elcope
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What they are really saying is "white men should be killing us based on what we are doing to them" when they say white supremacy or domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to the U.S.
K5555
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@Sane, I liked your last several non punctuational posts. Please keep doing those. I will look into your book recommendation. Thank you for that.

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Kikknback
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Sonoran_monk wrote..
Also, how is Texas going to rise up with that lack of Statesmen you mentioned?

Presently, he's obviously out of the limelight due to the fact no one in government is qualified which means one will have to step up to the podium to lead the people back to FREEDOM, and it will not be possible, unfortunately, until the people are suffering to where they will open and clear their minds of the fakes they've been brainwashed to believe are leaders.

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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you without standing up in its defense" - me

"True Freedom can never exist, unless true Rule of LAW exists" - me
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