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Tickerguy
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The collapse of Medicare and the federal medical racket was baked into the cake 30 years ago. I've been talking about it since the 1990s when I had to deal with the bull**** as an employer, and looked into the "why". It was obvious then what was going to happen. Its been a regular focus in my column since I started writing this thing for that reason.

Nobody will touch it yet all the Senators, at least, know ******n well what is going on and what's going to happen. They won't touch it because they'll get fired if they do, and they know that too. Their paycheck is more important than a no-bull**** collapse. I've been told this directly, in a meeting with over a dozen senatorial aids in the room, all of whom agreed.

Don't kid yourselves folks -- the reason they let this happen is that they couldn't stop it without getting fired 10 years back, and now the window to stop it has passed. As I said at the time in this column and have repeated a number of times: If you need it beyond 2024 or thereabouts you're not going to get it, you're ****ed, and you're not going to like it, so the only defense available to you is to change your lifestyle to not need it and accept that if that doesn't work out you're going to go meet God.

You either adopt this as your perspective and deal with it mentally or don't. But whether you do or don't won't change a damn thing in terms of whether it's going to happen. It is going to happen.

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Susan and lazer,

I agree. Thing is i don't particularly want to go live with or live like the Amish...

i don't think you're just going to be able to peacefully live like the Amish though.. I'd prefer a healthy population. All I'm saying is I'm not necessarily cheering for their demise

Maybe that's a spoiled take. It matters not for what was done has been done.

Would i prefer to be taken over by putin or whatever domestic tyranny the Karens serve upon us during the next calamity?. I don't even know anymore..

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I ****ing love you Karl.

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@Phillydog
I have a Black Rain AR-15, a Winchester 20 guage shot gun and a few other weapons that say I will be living in peace (or I will take out as many of "them" / home invaders or attackers as I can in self defense). The dogs will give me a first alert. No it won't be pleasant, but it will be quick.

If people in this country truly wanted a healthy population, I could list an entire litany of things to do and things not to so, actions to take and actions to cease. People want ease and comfort and "write me a prescription, Doctor." They weren't healthy before the jabb and they will be much, much worse afterwards.
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Real-world example: My mother.

Colon cancer "technically" got her. She was 89. They chopped out a piece of her colon two years earlier -- but not enough that she couldn't **** like everyone does. But then they wanted to do chemo and radiation. In an 87 year old woman.

She asked me what I thought, and I told her basically how life would be if she did it, and that this was the choice: If you do it, you're going to feel like complete **** for the next 6-12 months. It may work and it may not. If it does something else will eventually kill you; we all die. If it doesn't you just took a year of your remaining life, which may well be 50% or more of what you have left, and flushed your enjoyment of that time down the toilet. How you weigh this is up to you; it's not my call, it's yours. But do realize this: The doc gets paid whether what he wants you to do so works or not, and he gets paid for what he does. If you tell him to go to Hell he gets no more money. If you sit and get blasted with radiation and chemo he gets a lot of money. If you think that's not part of his recommendation you're wrong -- it most-certainly is.

She opted not, had another 18 months, and all but the last month of it were pretty much what she'd had prior to the knife. I'd say that's not bad; if I have a bad couple weeks or a month at the end that's damn good compared to many others who take the other road and have their quality of life DESTROYED -- and then die anyway.

Now contrast this if she'd gotten a tube up her ass five years prior and they found it. They cut it out and now she gets the same speech. Well, its the same deal, right? So who wins if they "find" it earlier? Not her, and I'm sure it probably was findable years before it got symptomatic enough for her to notice and go get something done about it. Worse what happens if the so-called "treatment" actually accelerates the disease -- because it might.

Something kills every single one of us. Are you REALLY changing the outcome? How do you know if you did or didn't in any specific person, and at what cost? Why is it that the Social Security tables, which are very accurate since Social Security knows EXACTLY when ever person over 65 dies, have actually shown a DECREASE in remaining life time expected, especially for men, over the last 20 years? If all this looking and testing worked it would be the other way around and it isn't.

The only thing that "works" in that regard is filling people's pockets and, incidentally, that it causes you to think every single ****ing thing that might kill you is about to, thereby ruining your emotional state and turning you into someone who fears that which you can't change is never part of the computation, is it?

Yeah, the system is broken but you're not going to fix it. All you can do is choose how you deal with it personally. Sometimes you have no choice; you've got something going on and have to deal with it because if you don't it's going to get you NOW. But don't mistake that for actually changing outcomes. A huge percentage of the time, by the data, it either doesn't or actually makes it worse.

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I am no longer surprised/angered/etc at news like this that confirms what TG has been saying for a LONG time. I guess this is the "no more ****s to give" phase?
Susanlauren wrote..
One day, I expect a 3 am hysterical/ sobbing/ weeping phone call from her (my next door neighbor) telling me that he is dead. Suddenly and unexpectedly. She is expecting that same outcome based on a number of things she has said.

THIS ^^^^^ has me up at night as I was only able to convince 6 of 35 immediate family members to not get jabbed (most are boostered). I'm guessing I'll be getting a few calls too.

Susanlauren wrote..
At this point, however, my concern is more about economic collapse, inflation, food shortages and WWIII (nuclear Armageddon) than about COVID and about the fall out from the vaxx.

And this ^^^^ just adds fuel to the fire.

What interesting times we are living in.

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Davinci
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@Tickerguy thanks for sharing your experience with your mother's decisions and outcome. My wife and I have watched 4 out of 5 of our parents / stepparents go through some version of this over the past 10 years. As you said, it will happen to us all. A helpful book on this topic is Being Mortal by Atul Gawande. He is a doctor who tried to "help" his father get medical care in the dying process, but only discovered that the system will treat you right up until you are dead. You are the one who has to say "stop"; no one in the system will say it.
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all the Senators, at least, know ******n well what is going on and what's going to happen. They won't touch it because they'll get fired if they do, and they know that too. Their paycheck is more important than a no-bull**** collapse.
I don't think it's their paycheck per se. I don't think any of them would be destitute if they lost their jobs, and many of them are substantially wealthier than you or I.

More likely, it is an addiction to the power and influence they have, which dissipates quickly if they leave office.

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Well, yes. But "paycheck" is more than a Senator's salary. It's also the grift for everyone in their orbit, including every one of their family members, most of whom take wild advantage of it and none of it is available to a regular mope like you or I.

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Yeah - we all gotta go one day. Keep in mind that CA & ACS are but two flavors of heart diss-ease. Another major killer that comes in many flavors is of course Cancer. I suspect covid vaxx after-effects should insure regular actuarial table updates going forward.

My older brother died this March. A very intelligent guy always fastidious about his diet and health. No smoking - no drinking - quite trim and still leading a civil engineering team until an aggressive glioblastoma discovered in September 2021. Brain surgery in mid-December 2021 followed by several likely expensive (?) drugs. Glioblastomas are real buggers. Pretty sure the VU hospital and surgery bills were mind-boggling too.

I was told he had followed his PC doc's advice to be vaxxed in early 2021. Did the vaxx lay waste his immune system and allow the cancer? Or would it have happened anyway? Who knows? I will remain in the control group despite my doc's urging. Take no glee in early demise of those who chose differently. Will be watching for future tickers along these lines to buttress my opinion.
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Worth a read, as is all of his stuff. England released their own study recently which said, no, there is no cardiac risk with the vax. Leftoids have been throwing the ONS study in my face, screaming 'muh vindacayshuhn!'

https://www.normanfenton.com/post/two-st....

Double lolz-- 'doctors don't know why it's not working, but if it is good enough for Kamalatoe, it is good enough for you, peasant."





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Nobody will touch it yet all the Senators, at least, know ******n well what is going on and what's going to happen.
The only congress critter I've even heard mention it is Senator Mike Braun from Indiana. He has mentioned it several times in interviews, and on the floor of the Senate. I know, fat lot of good that does, but at least he has publicly admitted that Medicare is broke in less than four years.
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I'm curious about the three female college athletes who have died in the last month. All apparently suicide. The most recent just received player of the week honors at JMU for softball. I can understand people hide their problems, but three in a row.. all athletes. Seems odd.
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We all have cancerous cells everywhere in our body all the time. Every single one of us. By the time you are born there are cells with ****ed-up replication machinery in them and in every single living animal they are ALWAYS THERE. There are no exceptions.

It is our immune system that prevents this from becoming a disaster and killing us. AIDS, for example, didn't directly kill anyone. Various odd cancers that basically NEVER GET YOU, however, along with wildly-potentiated bacterial infections (e.g. PCP) did.

If your immune system is ****ed up sufficiently then that which is in all of us goes wild. That's fact. The problem is that nobody has figured out how to fix the underlying issue medically; we simply don't understand it in enough detail to do so, and its not certain that even if we did we could do anything about it. This is the 900lb Gorilla in the room with transplants. You have to suppress enough immune recognition that the other organ is not rejected, because if it is you're dead. But if you suppress that too far all those cancer cells are not suppressed either, and then you're ****ed anyway. Of course if the alternative is certain death if you don't get the transplant, well, it is what it is.

We knew before the first shot went into the first arm that these jabs severely tampered with immunity. I pointed out that the data was quite clear from what was in the public domain, but now we have learned that BOTH THE MAUNFACTURERS AND THE FDA knew that if you got infected despite being jabbed "N" antibodies were quite unlikely to be induced, which was HARD PROOF that immune tampering was part and parcel of the shots.

We do not have a means to quantify that because we don't understand it well enough -- so as soon as that was learned we KNEW there was a high probability of significant and potentially PERMANENT immune system damage, and what's worse is that even if NOT permanent it doesn't matter if the suppression causes the cancerous cells in every single one of us to get out of control before the immune system recovers -- you're still ****ed.

Just look at the facts with ONE form of cancer in men -- prostate. If you cut open every single man who dies that reaches 80 years of age it is EXTREMELY LIKELY you will find cancer in that man's prostate. Yet he died of a heart attack, kidney failure or anyone of a thousand other things -- not cancer that originated in said prostate. But the cancer was there the entire time. His immune system was competent enough to keep it from getting wildly out of control and killing him.

Why?

We don't know. Many have claimed to know. Dendreon anyone? Every single one of those claims thus far -- every one -- has proved to be false. If we DID know we could resolve cancer in basically every case without chopping things up, blasting people with radiation and chemical poison. But we don't know, so we do what we know how to do, which is the wrong thing but it beats nothing -- some of the time. Thus the decision is simply whether you're willing to trade the ridiculously nasty side effects for the POSSIBILITY that it will stop the progression, and you HOPE that said process doesn't screw your immunity up enough that some OTHER cancer then comes and gets a year or three down the road -- which you POTENTIATED with the radiation and chemo.

Yeah, that's a **** deal, but its all we got.

Adding to that risk with a ****ing vaccine for a virus that kills less than 1% of the people who get it is so far off into stupid land that it should have gotten every single person involved in formulating and pressing that **** on others executed on the spot with a round right between the ****ing eyes, and make that an expanding round too so it blows the entire back of their head off and splatters their clearly-defective and wildly-corrupt brain on the wall behind them.

This is not the first instance of stupid **** like this -- statins anyone? Drugs that DO lower cholesterol, but have no positive impact on all-cause mortality. In other words they don't ****ing work net-on-net but they sure as hell made a bunch of people very, very rich. Or how about the newly-approved Alzheimer's drug that doesn't actually stop cognitive decline yet got approved anyway?

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Anti-nucleocapsid antibodies following SARS-CoV-2 infection in the blinded phase of the mRNA-1273 Covid-19 vaccine efficacy clinical trial

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We analyzed data from 1,789 participants (1,298 placebo recipients and 491 vaccine recipients) with SARS-CoV-2 infection during the blinded phase (through March 2021). Among participants with PCR-confirmed Covid-19 illness, seroconversion to anti-N Abs at a median follow up of 53 days post diagnosis occurred in 21/52 (40%) of the mRNA-1273 vaccine recipients vs. 605/648 (93%) of the placebo recipients (p < 0.001).
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@Tickerguy
@Heartlander

Thank you both for answering my questions about Molnupiravir and Paxlovid.
Sad and shameful that all of the drugs promoted by the FDA/CDC (Remdesivir, Molnupiravir, Paxlovid, and the experimental injections) are all extremely dangerous and mostly useless.

This shouldn't have happened. I can only conclude that they want to extract the common man's wealth and see him dead.
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My mother, in her early 70's, suffered a stroke while out to dinner with her gentleman friend one night about 10 years ago. Got hospitalized, and they found glioblastoma in her brain. She smoked like a chimney all her life and we were sure the cancer metasticized from her lungs. Nope. Aside from COPD, her lungs were were clean. Luckily for her, her TOD was less than three months from diagnosis. I had a good friend/former coworker from back in the food service industry that somehow ended up as a hospice nurse that was taking care of her in hospital. He made quite sure she felt nothing toward the end via morphine drip. God bless him, and RIP mom.

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And, while it's only speculation, your grandmother might have lasted even to see this sh*t play out if she'd taken the horse paste and fenbendazole...

...not that she would have wanted to see this, of course...
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Or how about the newly-approved Alzheimer's drug that doesn't actually stop cognitive decline yet got approved anyway?


Is that the Alzheimer's drug that was factored into the current year's increase in the Medicare Part B premium deducted from Social Security benefits each month? The fix was certainly in on that one.

My mom had "Alzheimer's" and my dad had dementia for the last year or so of his life, but it was a broken heart (congestive heart failure) that took him at the end. I did a lot of reading about Alzheimer's "treatments." I concluded that they were another massive pharmaceutical industry scam that preys on people's emotions and fears of death. I was not convinced that any of the "memory" drugs they prescribed mom or dad did any good. How do you prove that a drug "slows the progression" of the disease?


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Among males, CA calls increased by 25.0% (P = 0.073) and ACS calls increased significantly by 21.3% (P < 0.01). Among females, CA calls increased by 31.4% (P = 0.224) and ACS calls instead significantly by 40.8% (P < 0.01).


That's the surprise in the study. It drives the risk for female recipients more than male recipients. Most likely the myocarditis was only noticed in young men because it's naturally higher and the increase killed a lot more people. For example, if 60 males normally get myo, then a 25% increase will be 15 more, while if normally only 10 females get myo, a 40% increase is only 4 more.

We value young female lives more than male (any society that doesn't is headed for the dustbin)so maybe this gets Israel to quit?
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Now break out rise in all cause mortality by vax vs unvax...

Oh, you dont want to do that, eh? Lolz... oh, you cant do that, eh? So those vax records are all the sudden unavailable, eh? Lolz

They are not hiding anything. Right...
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Robacrman,

And they just recently lied about that too by claiming that the current vaxx works on all variants. It was played for naomi wolfe to react to while on the Warroom with Bannon. Complete fu king lie. The other current lie circulating is that the vaxx doesn't create variants. Kirsch is all over that one.
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We all have cancerous cells everywhere in our body all the time. Every single one of us. By the time you are born there are cells with ****ed-up replication machinery in them and in every single living animal they are ALWAYS THERE. There are no exceptions.

It is our immune system that prevents this from becoming a disaster and killing us. AIDS, for example, didn't directly kill anyone. Various odd cancers that basically NEVER GET YOU, however, along with wildly-potentiated bacterial infections (e.g. PCP) did.


I came to the same conclusion some years ago. Medically, cancer is really immune system dysfunction. Restore the immune system (e.g. regenerate the Thymus gland and lymphatic system and restore mitochondrial function) and cancer is "controlled".

The problem with messing with the immune system (vaccines, immune suppressants) is that it destroys your body's ability to control cancer. The thing about vaccination in general is no one has parsed out the underlying molecular biology of adjuvants. What do adjuvants do? Why are they necessary? No one has bothered to figure this out. Of course this does not apply to the mRNA vaccines because they do not use adjuvants.

I don't see this rise in cardio vascular and cancer deaths as being an existential issue for civilization. We're looking at, what, a doubling of deaths due to cancer and cardio vascular issues over the next 10 years or so? Yeah, this sucks and it would suck to be one of these people. But I don't see that as any kind of "game changer" societally speaking.

The real problem is that there will be lots and lots of disability and expensive medical treatment due to these mRNA "treatments" and THAT is what is going to clobber the medical system, and a lot else as well. I see this as the REAL problem we are facing as a society as we move into the future.

And, yeah, you don't want to be dependent on the medical system starting about two years from now. At least not anything you cannot pay out of pocket for (and possibly getting on a plane to get treated overseas).

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the manufacturers of these jabs knew during the initial three month trials that if you had been jabbed and got Covid anyway you didn't build N-protein recognition a very significant part of the time

They knew about lack of N-protein recognition way back then? I would love it if you could give a link about that.
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the reason they [Congress] let this happen is that they couldn't stop it without getting fired

I remember back in 2009 or so, Paul Ryan tried very hard to communicate what was going to happen. Does anyone here remember the videos he made, in which he calmly, rationally walked viewers through the numbers, showing how things work and what would happen if we didn't fix it? He utilized very viewer-friendly graphics, so anyone could understand, and talked with a caring, quietly urgent, but positive tone -- the tone of "we have a very bad problem, this is dead serious, but we're Americans, and we can do things that need to be done, once we put our mind to it."

Well, if you remember his video spots, you remember the fallout. He was viciously demonized. Before there was "Putin is Hitler," there was "Paul Ryan is Hitler."

His message, like those videos, was shelved, and we never heard anything about the issue again. I have always been convinced that what shut Ryan up was that they threatened to kill his children. I mean very real, graphic death threats. As any Mafiosi knows, that is always the most effective way to turn people and make them your subservient slaves for the rest of their lives.
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