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2021-02-23 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Am I supposed to be surprised?

First, the USSC turned away the PA lawsuit which, contrary to the claims of all the breathless media was not filed by Trump; it was filed by PA Republicans.

They turned it away as moot.

Remember that they control their calendar and deliberately scheduled it after the inauguration.

In other words the Supremes decided that the law does not matter so long as you get away with whatever you're doing until after the person who allegedly cheated takes office.

That, of course, is tantamount to telling anyone they can do whatever the Hell they want so long as they get away with it long enough for the "outcome" to occur, whatever that might be.  Various schemes just became legal so long as you can hold off for a bit.

And let's not forget that the same cases were previously turned away as "not ripe yet", which basically means there is no place you can turn within the law.

I doubt they care, but they ought to for a whole bunch of reasons, not the least of which is that if I have no recourse to the law what do you think someone who finds themselves in that situation might do instead?  After all law or no, robes or no robes the basic facts remain: After the first all the rest are free.

Thomas' dissent was the lone piece of sanity.

This dovetails exactly with that I said right after the election, given that suits were filed prior and turned away as "not ripe": If Trump was going to do anything other than walk out and give up the day after the alleged "loss" he had to pot commit and bet his freedom (or worse.)

Which he didn't do, of course.

That leads to the obvious question: Did he really believe it or was it all for show?  If the latter then he deserves prison -- and I hope he gets it.

But that leads to the other problem: Whether he bet his freedom by doing whatever he had to in order to conclusively prove his case didn't matter; he was already pot-committed and couldn't get away from it because the Democrats were never going to let it go and for him the courts were no place of recourse.

We saw that with the other decision -- that NY now can have all his tax info.

I expected that to be the outcome, as I've previously pointed out.

Mr. "Stable Genius" is the one likely to go to jail or at least be bankrupted because he failed to recognize that the bet had already been made; he made it when he ran and everyone decided they hated him.  Having made the bet your only way to win is to catch the other guys doing illegal things you can jail them for and do it in enough size that they can't come back after you

Which Trump, as head of the Executive, could have done.  He had four years to do it.

But didn't.

People still think he's the "2024 Presumptive Nominee"; that'll be tough from inside a prison cell or living under a freeway overpass in your underwear and you can bet they're going to do everything in their power to make exactly that happen.

Good luck Trump -- I think you're going to need it just to remain a free man long enough for 2024 to come around.  Never mind that your most-serious error of all was being conned on Covid and may God have Mercy on your soul if the Chinese figure out how to target those synthetic, never-seen-in-nature antibodies as your "Warp Speed" programHe will personally be the one who gets "credit" when a huge percentage of the population including our military is laid waste by it.

I pray I'm wrong on that but this is exactly the sort of blindness to risk that Trump demonstrated repeatedly while in office.

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"...blindness to risk..." seems to have been a presidential feature for some time...at least since we have qualified as an empire.

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Such a curious Catch 22... you could see the fraud coming from a mile away prior to the election, but the Court would not consider the case until after the damage had been done.

After the damage had been done, the Court would not consider the case because it was moot.

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seems to me there's another precedent being set here as well. It's typically been SOP that once a President leaves office, he's left alone. But going forward that may no longer be the case. Anything done wrong by a President (or even VP) going forward may be used against them after they leave office. 3rd world banana republic style.

There are definitely cases where politicians should have been prosecuted both while in office and after they left. But that becomes a slippery slope in a hurry as well. There are a number of things Obama could be held accountable for. Clinton should have been thrown in prison for eternity if any of the accusations by women against him are true (which I believe most are).

As for the scotus, they've been just a bunch of political hacks for many decades. If they actually believed in the rule of law they would have overturned Wickard, Roe, NFA and many others long ago. They wouldn't have been afraid to take the PA case either nor the Texas case.
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Captainkip, I look at it not as a curious case, but total corruption including most of the highest court in the land. I believe that they have all been threatened with something, maybe a horrific death for the families? Money buys some, exposure of a bad deed others, but death threats that you know will take place, that will do it for most.
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Yeah but here's the point to that @Engineertype -- if you have no recourse to the law then "all the rest are free" is all that remains.

We're there. The public hasn't figured it out yet but the gangs figured it out long ago. That's why their "initiation" is to go kill some random person. Once you've done that there is no further punishment you can earn and thus there is no hesitancy the second time.

Or the tenth.

I've seen a "funny" T-shirt around here a few times on various older folks which says "Don't******off old people; life in prison doesn't mean what it used to."

That's true but it still means something until you kill the first one.

Beyond that point it means nothing at all, every time, no matter your age.

And it's a HELL of a lot easier to "get" a family member (especially someone not immediately connected such as a nephew, uncle, etc.) than it is to get the principal if the principal is someone of money, political power or both. The latter may well have decent (but really not very good) security but the latter never does, and it's not a money thing -- it's that nobody wants to live in that "bubble" and won't put up with it, particularly when they get none of the real trappings of the power or money.

It's one thing to always drive into your office and park in the garage under the building full of cameras and reasonable building security. Not perfect, mind you, but if someone attacks you under that set of circumstances they're doing it where they're likely to get caught. It's a whole different game if they go after your uncle half the nation away who gets dropped in a drive-by as he gets his mail. The odds of catching THAT guy are a hell of a lot lower.

Once someone decides to do that then they've accepted the "1" on their side of the board, and all that remains in terms of life mission is figuring out how high and how satisfying the score is on the OTHER side.

You really don't want people to go there; the entire point of having a justice system is to provide a more-sane alternative to that.

That's gone.

Welcome to Hell the day it sinks into public consciousness on a widespread basis. It already has for a decent number of people -- witness the riots over the last nine months or so or, if you prefer, Chicago's murder clearance rate.

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What is amazing is that people continue to be surprised that there is a two-tiered justice system in the US.
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Been a slow moving train-wreck since at least 1913. How can we peacefully evolve with the current Federal government captured by a central bank? Are there any good Generals left in our military?
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Meh @Spitcher2 -- That's a cheap, dog-**** excuse and you know it.

Go run that crap on Zero.

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I find it curious that of Trump's 3 appointments to the USSC only Gorsuch was a dissenter on the PA case. Had Kavanaugh and Barret joined that side they'd be hearing the case right now.

I voted for Bush Jr (twice) and neither time felt good about it, but he was the lesser evil and I didn't want the "other side" appointing people like RBG to the high court. Where has that gotten us??? ****-it. Creepy Joe can pack the court with more militant lesbians. It's not going to make a difference.
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I've read your comments about the assessed strategic vulnerability introduced by the currently risky and not well tested MRNA vaccines in multiple articles now. Since the genie is out of the bottle, these vaccines will be deployed for future viruses (CV-19 strains and others). In other words, this won't be the last times these products are used on large populations. It will be interesting to see if China maintains their policy of not using this technology long term. China has a long track record of copying the US and western countries in all areas of technology, and I'm skeptical they won't eventually get around to doing it with these vaccines as well. One of the key reasons we maintain the largest and most expensive military on the planet, and the reason we're investing billions to modernize our nuclear force is to deter adversaries from trying to attack us with WMD, and give them the understanding they will have to pay extremely severe consequences if they do.

In my opinion, the so-called dirty civil war you have written about is a greater risk to the US. China directs a lot of its resources internally to suppressing its people , because it realizes one of the largest risks to regime survival there is internal conflict as well. I'm concerned that we're increasingly adopting these police state tools to step on the neck of Americans. Our new regime takes office with the most outwardly visible sign of a police state surrounding the capital, with plans to keep that in place long term, and to increase efforts to crack down on "domestic terrorists." I think the essays, podcasts, conservative media segments and other content pushing back hard against this rhetoric is completely appropriate. If the US regime pushes too far too fast, I think they risk the dirty civil war. However, it's possible the police state continues to creep up around us slowly, so as old people die out, young people are conditioned by recency bias ("hasn't it always been this way?"). We've seen that happen with measures put in place after 9/11 and other incidents (e.g. shoe bomber) decades ago, that never went away.
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Vote for Rs and get good judges. How did that work out for you?
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i always thought trump was an anomaly, and that he wouldnt last. in fact, he lasted a lot longer than i expected. i had a bet that he would not survive 2 years.

in his place, i would have collected and stored in a safe place enough compromising material to keep everybody off his tail after his term.

but then again, im not sure he could have done that, considering who really controls the government apparatus.

and on top of that, even if such material was made public, the dem mafia is so powerful that they can literally get away with murder. imagine a conservative politician with a son involved in every sort of criminal activity being elected president...





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It never ceases to amaze me how many people will make excuses when they outnumber their adversary by approximately 1,000:1.

With such numbers -- and their dependence on the 1,000 for the very things they need to live for as little as the next day -- material (e.g. weapons) or financial superiority is irrelevant to the outcome.

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and I'm skeptical they won't eventually get around to doing it with these vaccines as well.
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the problem with places like PRC is that their goverment dont give a flip about people. even if for any reason 100 million chinese die, they still have another 1300 millions. and they do not care about pissing off these 1300 millions. so they dont need to use mRNA technology, except to sell it to the criminals who pose as our governments.

in fact, look at the C19 business. whether it was a deliberate act or an incident, they turned it into a political and commercial tool to advance their interests, and with massive success i have to say.

so in a sense we have already seen an hostile act of bacteriological warfare and all we have done is buy stuff from the enemy...

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I met and became friends with notorious blogger Mike Vanderboegh a few years before he died. He was working on a book called Absolved that he never got past the editing stage.

It was dystopian fiction along the lines of Matt Bracken's Enemies series which I read around the time Mike passed.

It's startling how life is imitating the general storylines of those books lately.

Unfortunately they all suffer a flaw I'm afraid. They resolve to a mostly happy ending. I'm afraid there isn't one. When I read "1984" as a teen I kept waiting for the part in the story where it turns and good triumphs over evil that I'd become used to in other fiction. It never came. Big Brother remained in power to the end.

I'm afraid that is our future. I watch the morning news and they're doing reports on the jabs and showing masses lined up to get them. Those of us like Karl and his readers are such a tiny, tiny percentage of the population. Much smaller than Vanderboegh's 3% he always talked about. He was an optimist. He speculated that even 1% would be enough resistance. At this point I'm not even sure we have that much.
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It never ceases to amaze me how many people will make excuses when they outnumber their adversary by approximately 1,000:1.

With such numbers -- and their dependence on the 1,000 for the very things they need to live for as little as the next day -- material (e.g. weapons) or financial superiority is irrelevant to the outcome.


With that factual statement, there is a small window, for the populace to resist/fight back. That window is rapidly closing. This is literally history repeating itself.

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errrrrr...

what was that list of "boxes" again???
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ZeroHedge reports that Alito and Gorsuch also dissented. Which is exactly the ones I thought would - they're the ones that believe in Justice.

ACB is clearly a stooge, with Haitian children presumably serving as Admission Tokens to the Clinton/Epstein circles (remember the Spielberg ticker). Roberts acts compromised, even though it was supposedly a different John Roberts on Epstein's flight log. For all the trouble they caused him, Kavanaugh hasn't stood for anything whatsoever.

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Well, good ole Claire Wolfe's quote might be hitting its sunset date. The real question becomes "IS it indeed still too early?" I guess the answers depends on how much you have left to lose.

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Trump was many things.

However he was never able to understand that most of his "staff" was working against him.

To much trust, not enough verification.

And now he will be destroyed piece by piece. Eventually he will get a quiet letter saying he can do the "honorable" thing and spare his family, or watch as everyone one he cared about is broken down.


I keep telling my team blue friends "This is why Caesar marched on Rome".
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@scottj175 I wouldn't believe the jab number reports for a second. I live in a fairly blue area, and I don't know of any friends or even coworkers that have gotten the stab yet. Even the bernie bros I work with don't trust it, and understand they don't really need it anyways. It's only the health care workers in my family group that have gotten it, and they were forced to do so despite being lefty brainwashed a long time ago.

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To those who look to the 2022 midterms as some coming turning point what makes you think they will be any less corrupt? They're already signaling they're going to run the same play:

https://www.cnn.com/2.257.1/static/unsup....
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Very easy to sum up this country today.

Liberty is dead, it's all about safety/safety/safety for the common good at all costs including the rule of law and crushing opposing thoughts & ideas.

Village mentality with collectivism ruling the day.

Time for the States to step up refuse federal assistance,
finance everything themselves. I dont say this because Biden is in.
I say this from what I've seen with this virus over the last year.
Especially by following TG on the virus.

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Never mind that your most-serious error of all was being conned on Covid and may God have Mercy on your soul if the Chinese figure out how to target those synthetic, never-seen-in-nature antibodies as your "Warp Speed" program. He will personally be the one who gets "credit" when a huge percentage of the population including our military is laid waste by it.

Great point, Karl. Trump really left his backside unprotected. The Dems with majority power now can push the vaccines for their benefit (money, power, population control, whatever the hell it is) - at ZERO risk. If the jab causes severe adverse reactions and or death, they can totally blame Trump.

As soon as he knew he would not get re-elected, if possible, he should have pulled the EUA on the vaccines. Make the dems reinstate it and own it.
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