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Kennington 296 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2020-12-08 11:06:17

@ Asimov and Tickerguy

Apple flavored and possibly tasting better with adult beverage...my kind of combo for sure!
Printlife 180 posts, incept 2018-05-22
2020-12-08 11:14:51

The long inserted video by Loonster, described a serendipitous trial at a nursing home. There was an outbreak of scabies and the floor with the worst outbreak got a full dose of ivermectin, the other floors got less. Right around the same time, Covid 19 swept through. The residents on the floor with the full dose were spared.
Valley View in Canada.
Sounds like, claim scabies and you can get the prescription version here.

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Chromehill 738 posts, incept 2010-03-03
2020-12-08 11:15:05

My local feed store had a display of horse paste with Ivermectin right by the checkout, only a couple of bucks per bar. Considering I visit the store every couple of weeks, that was the first time I saw it. Considering that it was prominently displayed, either there is suddenly a need to treat parasites in horses, or maybe they know something.

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Rotoranger 33 posts, incept 2013-12-31
2020-12-08 11:21:20

@ Asimov,

Found this warning on one of the brands at Tractor Supply......

Warnings: Equimax Paste ( Ivermectin ) has been formulated specifically for use in horses and ponies only. This product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result. Do not use in horses intended for human consumption. Store at room temperature (25C/77F), with excursions permitted between 15 to 30C (59 to 86F). Consult your veterinarian for assistance in the diagnosis, treatment, and control of parasitism.

So if you decrease the dosage in relation to body weight, you're saying it will work in humans ? (This Label makes me a bit hesitate,but I'm all for it if it'll work. ) I'm watching Moderna Inc.'s stock climb higher and higher each day now and it pisses me off in 2 ways; (1) One is it was mentioned by Fauci back in February, which made me very suspicious, and (2) Two is I'm pissed I didn't buy it when it was at $25 a share back then (today it's near $168).
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Asimov 137k posts, incept 2007-08-26
2020-12-08 11:30:16

rotoranger: Not sure why the warning about dogs on that brand, but equimax paste isn't JUST invermectin, it's also praziquantel.

Both are used in dogs regularly though... so...

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Tickerguy 186k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-08 11:29:52

The reason that warning related to dogs is present is that there are certain breeds (Shepherds are one of those specifically impacted) which are prone to a specific genetic defect that will cause Ivermectin to cross the blood/brain barrier at a radically-elevated rate. The damage caused if that defect is present is irreversible and often fatal. If you have a dog with heartworm (Ivermectin is used to treat heartworm as well) you MUST check for that first because if you don't the treatment has a very high probability of killing the dog. Isn't inbreeding wonderful? (Don't **** your sister!)

Note that Ivermectin in MUCH lower doses is also used as a heartworm preventative; it has not shown the same problem with that much lower dosing.

Humans, fortunately, do not have this as a potential risk nor do other species (e.g. swine, in which it is also often used.) We have administered close to 4 BILLION doses of Ivermectin in humans and no evidence of this problem has emerged in people.

With that said would I prefer to obtain the human pill version? Yes. And guess what -- there is a hearing going on RIGHT NOW (on C-Span 3) on this exact issue.

Be aware that if there are OTHER drugs in the paste I have absolutely no idea what they would do in people. We have data on Ivermectin but nobody, as far as I know, have looked at those others with regard to Covid and as such who the **** knows. That SPECIFIC other drug IS used for tapeworms in humans, however (which humans DO get infested with) but I have utterly ZERO idea what dosing looks like since I've never had tapeworms smiley

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Step55 193 posts, incept 2009-02-27
2020-12-08 12:08:29

"Drinking alcohol can increase certain side effects of ivermectin."

Additional information at https://www.drugs.com/ivermectin.html

M1919a2 862 posts, incept 2015-07-18
2020-12-08 12:32:11

Original Jurisdiction

Texas sues Georgia et al in the United States Supreme Court

TODAY

August 38 posts, incept 2020-12-04
2020-12-08 12:32:16

@Kennington. Sorry you must have misunderstood me. I am certainly not for the WEF agenda or the mainstream media propaganda/ fear push. Sadly I think at least half of our fellow citizens think what WEF wants (totalitarian technocracy) would be a good thing judging by the number of Biden signs I saw in my neighborhood. Im no great lover of Trump but at least he talked a good game IMO when it came to putting America first rather than wanting us to be part of some globalist crap.
August 38 posts, incept 2020-12-04
2020-12-08 12:32:20

Wonder what kind of feedback I will get in this mask lol.
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Jakerothstein 1 posts, incept 2020-12-08
2020-12-08 12:33:22

Ivermectin paste (designed for horses) is available online and at amazon. ivermectin is ivermectin. period. It matters not at all what the package says it is to be used for. just make certain there are no OTHER ingredients in the tube. equivalent of a pill would be about 1/16 of a teaspoon or a little less.
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Poorsaver 488 posts, incept 2008-05-20
2020-12-08 12:59:02

As a follow up to my post on page 1, the reason for asking about Fenbendazole is because of a personal anecdote. Let me share with you.

Two days ago I started to come down with symptoms that made me suspicious of the rona. Aching arms and legs, fever (101ish) and malaise. I immediately took some extra vitamin C tabs and some D and zinc. I also popped a Zicam tablet. Four hours later I felt worse, so took another Zicam. I have some Fenben laying around because Ive got three dogs, so I said to myself why not. I took one dose of 220 mg, Still feeling like **** a couple hours later, I took one more Zicam then went to bed.

The next morning I woke up and to my amazement I felt relatively normal. No fever, no feeling like my body was made out of lead like the day before. I was truly shocked. I have taken Zicam before for the recommended indications of an impending cold, and it works pretty well. But my symptoms were more of a flu, such as the rona. I was skeptical at best that it would work this time. Hence my reasoning for experimenting with the Fenben. Is this proof of anything? No. But it does make me wonder, especially with the current discussion of Ivermectin going on. I didnt have any Ivermectin laying around, but I did have the Fenben, so I took it. And within 12 hours all my rona like symptoms disappeared. Hmmm.......

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Sunnyp 23 posts, incept 2016-11-07
2020-12-08 12:59:25

Physician Tells Senate, Ivermectin Is a COVID 'Wonder Drug'; If You Take It, You Will Not Get Sick'
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national....
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Tickerguy 186k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-08 12:59:56

Yes, was following that from the start -- my running commentary: https://twitter.com/tickerguy/status/133....

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Erroldo 605 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2020-12-08 13:11:47

There is the Durvet brand on Amazon, apple flavor. Bought 2 packets. Content is like clear toothpaste. content is 6.07g at 1.87% conc, so about 110mg for round numbers in the tube. dose is about 12-20mg for body weight 130 - 170lb for humans. So about 6-9 dosage in that packet for me. I didnt bother to be exact on the math as the overdose margin is very wide.
Personally took 2 doses 7 days apart and so far no known side effects. Will take another 2 dosage in about mid January.
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Tickerguy 186k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-08 13:22:48

@Poorsaver - As far as I know nobody has done any sort of trial with that stuff with respect to Covid. There are some anecdotal reports with regard to cancer, but again "case reports" do not become "data" no matter how many of them you have.

There IS a plausible mechanism of action with regard to viral replication, but as far as I know nobody has run a trial on it. And unfortunately a "trial of one" is not a trial. It's an interesting anecdote but nothing more, and frankly, given that we have an apparently highly-active agent that works both early AND late, with no reason not to use it, I'd say if we're going to trial this we should do it AGAINST Ivermectin as the control along with placebo.

If you're going to try to find agents then put them against what we already have reason to believe works so we can quantify the results.

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The law of scoreboards is not subject to repeal.
**** around and find out.
New business: Karl's Guillotine sales and repair; you slice 'em, we dice 'em.

Rporth 99 posts, incept 2016-09-28
2020-12-08 13:55:02

Poorsaver,

what pray tell is "Fenben"... thanks
Erroldo 605 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2020-12-08 13:55:15

Karl mentioned C-SPAN has a hearing. I am listening to it. It is worth listening to and by means if you can, spread the word on this so the average person can draw their conclusion.
This inaction or lack of comment by the govt and major news media on IVM is crazy.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?507035-1/s....
Franco 311 posts, incept 2009-10-06
2020-12-08 14:33:00

So the white paper is about topical use of ivermectin and carrageenan, but some of yall are talking about products with ivermectin that are supposed to be ingested. Is there any research that shows that ingested ivermectin is useful against covid as well? Does it HAVE to be topical? If you ingest it, is it beneficial to also spray carrageenan in your nostrils and mouth, or that only helps if its topical ivermectin? For yall using this horse paste, how do you know how much, how often, and for how long?
August 38 posts, incept 2020-12-04
2020-12-08 14:40:16

@Tickerguy, what are your thoughts on this Sars Cov 2 not having been isolated (thus no good proof of what the heck it is; maybe even man made) I really dont know if thats all baloney or not and value your opinion.
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Tickerguy 186k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-08 14:34:16

@Franco -- did you read the second paper?

That's ingested Ivermectin which had an 80% reduction in infections .vs. controls.

The second paper also has results from both early and late (serious to critical) treatment and found outstanding results in both cases.

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The law of scoreboards is not subject to repeal.
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New business: Karl's Guillotine sales and repair; you slice 'em, we dice 'em.
Loonster 1k posts, incept 2012-10-28
2020-12-08 14:40:44

Erroldo, you are overthinking it. The proper dosage for treating worms in horses/humans is 0.2mg/kg. Most of the studies used the same dosage amount for covid as they do for worms. Dialing in the proper weight will give the proper dose.

As far as the other ingredients go, some contain proprietary compounds. One is a preservative that is likely aluminium based. I believe the preservatives for human are typically copper based. I do not know the problems the preservative will cause.

I tried it back in June. I had some minor but concerning side effects. Not sure if from Covid, Paste or something else. Hell, I may have had a parasite infestation and experienced die off (ate local food while in Iraq, walked through fields of human ****, etc). I don't know... I will probably order some pure pills from India just to have on hand. I read a ton about it. One of the safest medicines in the world with no known human deaths solely attributed to overdose. The human ld50 estimate is commonly listed as >15mg/kg because it is high enough that it doesn't matter. The ld50 may be 50mg/kg or 250x as high as therapeutic.

The biggest problem with Ivermectin is it works really well. I highly doubt that you will develop antibodies while on it as a pre-exposure prophylaxis.
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Tickerguy 186k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-08 14:41:54

@August -- It's a distinction without a difference. They have the RNA sequenced which means they know what it is. ****, there are a crap-ton of RNA sequences uploaded where the public can get at them at this point.

Arguing over that **** is tin-foil stupid bull****.

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The law of scoreboards is not subject to repeal.
**** around and find out.
New business: Karl's Guillotine sales and repair; you slice 'em, we dice 'em.
Franco 311 posts, incept 2009-10-06
2020-12-08 14:46:43

Tickerguy:

Sorry, I had not seen the second paper. So in the Argentinian paper they used topical ivermectin plus carrageenan to try to prevent covid, and in the Egyptian paper they used ingested ivermectin to treat moderate and severe cases. In both papers theres positive results. So if one wanted to use ingested ivermectin for prevention, would you use the same protocol as in the Egyptian paper (24 mg once daily for four days), or would the preventative protocol be vastly different? My engineers brain would think that it would be a certain dose periodically, not four doses and youre done, but I dont know anything.
August 38 posts, incept 2020-12-04
2020-12-08 14:49:23

@Tickerguy. Thanks. In your opinion then...another thing that gets put out there...do you think this is a natural thing I.e. not manufactured and purely an accidental new virus from bats and the wet market in China or whatever that hit the scene about a year ago? Sorry if you have already covered this before.
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