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Greenacr
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@ Tickerguy "Marik Protocol"

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/d....

Found the above link that walks you through various stages from prophalaxis to ICU. The one question I have is can I dictate to a doctor/hospital that this is how I want to be treated?
Tickerguy
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Well if I ran into resistance I'd tell them I'm quite sure they can die of acute lead poisoning, and if I'm convinced I'm going to die then "all of them are free" since everyone only dies once.

I suspect they wouldn't like that very much, but at that point I wouldn't really give a **** if they did or didn't.

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If you will not force justice to be done by any means necessary when over 50,000 are murdered by political hacks from both parties do not complain or expect my help when you or someone you love dies at their hand. -- Me
X5920014
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my experience at Emory was good on this side - they agreed to not use ventilator (so i had a notice written on the board in front of me with "resuscitation up to"...) - they also agreed to not give me remdesivir...and anyway, i was willing to leave if they would not agree with my requests...i don't need anybody's help to die
Tickerguy
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Yep - you can always sign yourself out against medical advice. Obviously you do that BEFORE you're flat on your back.

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M1919a2
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@Tickerguy

I have made an egregious error which I hope you will see fit to correct. Sometime before Post 729, I submitted a FAUX copy of a writing of Rudyard Kipling under the title - "THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON". Last night in a telephone conversation I was informed that it was FAUX copy, even though I have had it in my computer file (at least 20 years). I learned that Kipling's original title was changed completely to the above in Quotation Marks to match the character of the ONE WORD CHANGE. Rudyard Kipling wrote the poem after his only son was declared MIA in the WWI Battle of LOOS. The BBC published the account of the finding of Rudyard Kipling son, 1Lt John Kipling. The link and the reason WHY Rudyard Kipling WOULD NEVER HAVE USED the term SAXON, which is the ONLY word changed in the REAL poem. The change appeared sometime in the 1980s. The poem's actual title - The Beginnings - and the actual word written by his hand - English!

With your permission


Rudyard Kipling
The Beginnings
1914-18

"Mary Postgate"-- A Diversity of Creatures

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good,
When the English began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.

Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.


The BBC article containing the WHY found at this link: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-353217....

Reason: correct grammar
Jeepguy
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Look have some SQUASH! it'll help you think clearly!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pznyduc2ML....
Jeepguy
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Ohio
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Oh boy, they tested people here then they tested people there, and it's pretty much that if you are tested you magically have it!

So what if we took a little trip to Africa and tested those whom drink n cook with water they******n **** in? They should test positive right?

Ooops no one wants to talk about that, instead the big story is that the lazy lizards known as teachers, are whining and threatening to strike!

Teachers: overpaid part-time personnel who bellyache about their pay
($45-$70,000 a year) and act as if they're poor, they whine that the classroom is full of kids, even though that's the job they signed up for!

But the overpaid part-timers are using the corona crap as a means to justify the fact that they don't want to go back to work!

And some say that it's just those pesky part-timers with regular jobs that don't want to go back to work!
(Ignore that lazy middle-class teacher)!

Too bad I wasn't governor, I'd let them strike, as in I'd ignore their crap until they go on strike!
I'd ask them to return to work, if they then refused I'd announce they're fired and we will be hiring new teachers! And we don't recognize the teachers union and if you can pass a series of tests, you without a college degree can too become a school teacher, you do not need a college degree!

That will fix education cost right now! So they can use corona crap as a giant excuse to go on strike, but if any of us with common-sense were governor, we could then use their corona crap strike as an excuse to completely overhaul the education system!

One state at a time! All it takes is one to get it going!
Tinman
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"you can always sign yourself out against medical advice"

yep, but sometimes you have to summon law enforcement as in my case.
Tickerguy
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Yep.

The law, however, is clear -- a competent adult can refuse medical treatment. If they don't release you when you do, it's kidnapping -- that's 20 years in the slam-slam.

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Tonythetiger
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More evidence that the NIH is likely tied up in the financial reward aspect of rolling out a vaccine:

https://www.citizen.org/article/the-nih-....

Turns out various scientists at the NIAID have their name on patents underlying the Moderna mRNA vaccine (the one closest to being approved, believe it or not). Yes, the very vaccine that taxpayers paid millions to Moderna for developing mRNA technology in the first place, then paid another $483 million to further develop and scale to manufacturing of Moderna's vaccine.

A quick glance didn't show Fauci as one of the names, but I'm wouldn't be surprised to find out there are other ways to 'reward' the Director of a Federal Agency indirectly for 'saving the day'.


Jeepguy
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@Tickerguy
I just walk out of the hospital/clinic!
I don't wait on their funky paperwork,
Let alone their permission!

And I don't really care about their
rent-a-cops either... No one holds me hostage!

If they try, then I might see if the feeling is mutual, by demonstrating they would make wonderful hostages!

Now no one wants to go down that road, so I'd be leaving peacefully with no problems!

My policy is simply move out of my way or you'll be moved!
Jackrussell
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TickerMan: That link for the protocol - I didn't see on it "the Big Kahuna", - HCQ

Also, a very interesting point I personally haven't seen articles on: won't salaries and wages (from non-govt employers) be CRUSHED by these tens of millions of laid off people looking for work? Example: Summer '19, An accounting/computer new-hire was paid $60k/yr (typical in TX). Will employers be cutting wages drastically, even to, say, $35k/yr for my example? BOB
M1919a2
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Whitehat
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very good David Icke podcast, he is speaking about most of the things that we are discussing.




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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
Chromehill
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@Tonythetiger - Big Rx CEO says "Hey Anthony, would your family like to use my ski chateau in the Alps as my guest for a few weeks. I also have all the frequent flyer miles I cannot possibly use, your family can fly first class." In this case it might be a friend of the CEO who makes that offer.

Hey Anthony, let me know if your kids ever need help getting a job or would like a career change, I can probably help them out.

Plenty of ways to reward government employees that will not attract attention.

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"Power, like the reproductive muscle, longs to be exercised, often without judgement or right" - Gerry Spence
Whitehat
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@Chromehill -- you nailed it. Now go up and down the chain for the full effect.

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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
Tonythetiger
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Looks like Florida is on the verge of herd immunity. Cases statewide over 501,000, implying 5 million infected which is nearly 25% of the statewide population

25% Cases + 50% already immune = nearly 75% of the herd.

Even my small county in the Panhandle is getting close with 2,900+ cases implying 29,000 infected or 14.5% of county population.

14.5% Cases + 50% already immune = 64.5% of the county.

If true, we should see a significant drop in new cases over the next week or two. Makes you wonder how long after Case counts dry up that the Mask mandates are removed.


Jeepguy
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Let's all go postal,Tonight @8/7 central!

Folks are talking more and more about the proverbial **** hitting the fan!
Discussions about mass evictions and more jobless as businesses close, lots of talk about hungry pissed off people!

All the while plenty of talk goes on about forcing everyone out of cash, and even the refusal to serve those who aren't getting down with the cards!

Yep looks like going postal is becoming a mainstream thought for many, some fearing those who might go postal, and there are those who are thinking about going postal!

Funny thing is, I fear I was right all these years discussing this topic...

Well I had said in comment sections across the internet and back when I made videos on YouTube, that contrary to popular belief, it's going to be every class in the street going ape ****!

Yes sir, for the past 10 years as this topic has been a favorite subject of many, the big idea emerged it's just going to be "the food stamp people", that's going to go ape **** and try to kill you for whatever you have and blah blah blah blah blah blah!

yeah I've always bucked that idea and the reason being, is because it's actually going to be more so the idiot who thinks that they can buy precious metals and conduct a simple business transaction in a world where everyone has literally gone ape ****, I vote them most likely to kill you.... when they discover that their little preppy plan is not going to work, and no they're not so smart for possessing precious metals after all, they're probably going to shout the famous saying of (I work) and believe that they deserve to take whatever you have because they deem you to be less than they are!
They'll justify it by convincing themselves that they worked harder during the old system than you did!

yeah it's actually going to be a lot of your preppy types that are going to snap, coupled with don't forget about your just pure snobby *******s over in the gated community!

Remember they're grass farmers, I've even met people who moved to the countryside that think the most important thing is that yard...(dumbasses)!

The look of the neighborhood is the most important thing to these idiots!

Yeah those are the ones over the next couple of months specifically, that's going to get the shock of their life they're more than likely going to **** themselves!
(They're already high strung) watch your back!

but hey that's all too damn to the propaganda that says no no it's just those food stamp people!

personally I believe the only real reason why anyone ran around with that dumbass idea, (that it's just them) is because it was a typical attempt for them to place themselves, but also the whole of the middle class up on a pedestal as their politicians have taught them to do!

yeah the middle class can't do any harm to anyone, remember they don't snap and cause murders or nasty crimes, they've never gone postal, because postal workers apparently are not middle-class right? they're somehow above the bad side of humanity!

I think it's high time that people ditch those notions, and the reason being is because buddy this is one big **** sandwich and it's before every single one of us!
M1919a2
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Whitehat
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regarding Minneapolis, the libs must really be enjoying the fruits of their very restrictive gun laws. funny how i don't think that this will be happening where guns can be easily carried and used.

And LOOK, there's more: this is how it always goes with libs. They create a situation where an underclass absorbs too much socialism and threatens their utopian paradise with its venial and sometimes atavistic nature. Then the libs seek to expand the country's "influence" cross border to acquire more resources while at the same time dealing with their undesirable underclass. We know how they do this. Don't worry, it is for the undesirables own good. Heh, heh.

We are on the path to be in a World War in about five to eight years. It will be game on when it happens.

One could get used to the regular citizenry wearing uniforms in daily life. Might be kind of nice.

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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
Jpe6150
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My understanding is that HCQ is a version of ionphore and thus opens the cell up in order for zinc to get in.
Would an accurate statement be that HCQ opens the cell membrane and the zinc kills the virus? Or, would it be HCQ opens the cell and the combination of 'something' in HCQ and the 'something' in zinc kills off the virus.
While researching alternate ionphores that do the same cell membrane opening up, and there are several, I got confused as which substance was doing what.

appreciate a reliable answer.
Note: other ionphores if you cannot get a doc to prescribe HCQ.
Quercetin: EGCG, the active ingredient in green tea. apples, cranberries, red onions, red wine, ginkgo biloba St.Johns Wort. Maybe others. If its true that zinc is the primary virus killer then these other ionphores would be a workaround in place of HCQ. If not, then at least the other ionphores would/should allow much better absorbing of zinc into the cell. Note that zinc has to be renewed daily as the body does not store it.
Tickerguy
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@Jpe6150 -- There is more to it than that. That was the original hypothesis, but it's no longer being held as the gospel. There is a pH balance issue involved here as well.

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Jpe6150
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Thanks Karl: PH balance. Well, back to the grind. Guess I should have known it would not be so simple. So, you would definitely need the HCQ plus some zinc and a range of ph to make it work?
And, there I thought alternate ionphores would get the HCQ roadblocks off our ass.
Wondering now if better absorption of zinc via alternate ionphore, and some idea of ph range and how best to arrange that could be determined. That might be a sort of prophylaxis, on going, to hold the virus at bay.I do not like going to docs or hospitals and gone to quite a bit of trouble over the years to stay fit and avoid almost all of that. May have met my match on this. Though, the idea of at least keeping decent zinc levels, on a daily basis, can't hurt.
That said, you had a warning, possibly on this post and comment string about avoiding too much zinc that had me rethinking not only zinc supplements but other minerals I use. Thanks, cause I was surely over using zinc and changed that.
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Whitehat: I agree that there's a lot of scam in the Plandemic, but "No such thing as a virus" is a bit much.
Loonster
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Quercetin may also bind directly with the spike, thus disabling the virus directly.

Currently for me its allergy season. Quercetin has an anti-histamine like effect. Worse case scenario, it only makes my hay fever a little less severe. I'm willing to take that risk.

As for zinc, 6oz of beef provides 100% of your recommended daily value in an easily absorbed form. I personally won't be supplementing zinc as a prophylaxis (It may make sense to supplement zinc during an active infection).
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