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Pete_brewster
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Incept: 2015-12-10

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They'll drag the scam out until President Trump is overthrown, thrown in prison and murdered there, and replaced with someone more willing to go along with the Chinese takeover of the industrialized world and the expropriation of America's productive class.

After that you won't hear another word about Wuhan flu. Guaranteed.
Poorsaver
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Ive done the math on herd immunity and it works out on average to national suppression just before election time. Hmm...how convenient.....

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M1919a2
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@tickerguy

Breitbart reporting that the 'inmates' love masks or at least they like telling people what to do at the POINT OF A GUN!

link: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/....

Really don't think they have thought the through - IFF, just saying.
Asimov
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I'm sitting here kicking myself because I never even considered the testing delay making a mockery of all this.

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Purplefang
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The testing was suspect from the beginning. Those who control the tests control the narrative. False positives seems too high and there are many stories of people who got positives who didn't take the test. The whole pandemic is a scam. I suspect covid-19 was circulating around in November last year. I have no proof, there was no test. I suspect our delayed testing was to make sure the China had it first story was credible.

Face it this whole deal was clowned from the beginning. There are estimates the DOD spent $100 billion on biowarfare research since 9/11. This is studying germs, how they spread, and potential countermeasures. Now enter covid-19 and the government essentially stands down and acts dumb. Instead of using verified science from their research we get a movie script full of failing illogical government mandates. I can guarantee the DOD labs knows know exactly how covid-19 spreads. They also know the face coverings are worthless.

I was thinking about how the virus gets in the air. Essentially the virus is an hydrophilic and lipophilic particle. The virus is trapped in your juices. Simple evaporation is not going to float it out of your body. The virus needs the violence of a cough or sneeze to get launched out of the body. The face masks are also going to have a difficult time containing that pressure too.

Probably fingers are likely transferring virus to everything an infected person touches. If your eye or nose itches you scratch it with out even thinking.
Purplefang
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@Jeepguy - 35 is nothing. You can easily change your habits and make big improvements in your health. Diet and exercise. I recommend avoiding doctors as much as possible. I take at least 5 pills a day. All vitamins. Selenium is a mineral though.
Chromehill
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@Purplefang - My niece just tested positive for Covid, had a few symptoms too, I doubt it was a false positive. She believes she got it picking up carryout food where a customer was noticeably coughing. Everyone wearing masks stops the spread...according to Fraudci, the masks work. NOT!

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Bodhi
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Purplefang wrote..
I recommend avoiding doctors as much as possible.


I avoid them at every opportunity. Haven't seen one in over 5 years.
Thelazer
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Thanks to Karl for all the insight.
I've located a few options close by that have Rapid point of care tests.
I have my Ammo ready to give to the Dr to demand HCQ if I should test positive.

Beyond that, our motto here has been live life as normal as possible.
Loonster
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@Karl, You may have some errors in your herd suppression numbers. If we assume that 50% have innate immunity, than we should also assume that the R0 of 2.5-3.0 is also taken at the 50% immune level and not the 0% immune level that we originally thought. This would mean we actually need a herd immunity of 50%+(50%*66%)=83% total. This leaves a more conservative 33% infections% to herd immunity.

I'm not confident that the R0 completely ignores the 50% innate immunity. I would only feel comfortable giving a range 15-30% for herd immunity.
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I can guarantee the DOD labs knows know exactly how covid-19 spreads. They also know the face coverings are worthless.


What happened to those carriers? Never heard about 'em after the fact?

More petri dishes and closed environments with far more healthy individuals than the Covid Princess, right?
Djloche
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Loonster - r0 is based on assuming the whole population is susceptible.

rE: r0 * fraction of the population susceptible.

herd immunity is when r0 * population susceptible = < 1

so the math is

(r0) * ( 100% - (50% base immunity + x% that have already had it)) = < 1

r0 of 2.5 * 40% = 1 = 10% gap needed to fill to reach herd immunity
r0 of 3 * 33% = ~1 = 17% needed to fill to reach herd immunity

of course, if within certain demographics r0 is much higher and other demographics r0 is much lower, then trying to project and do stuff with these numbers in assessing risk to the whole population is completely fruitless.


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Tickerguy
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Correct. R0 does NOT take in account pre-existing immunity (irrespective of reason.)

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Reformedhippy
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@Purplefang and @Bodhi, ditto on the avoidance of doctors, great advice at any age. It pains me to see youngsters being indoctrinated into regular testing and drug cocktails and getting hooked on the medical teat for life. My spouse and I, at 48 and 52, are on no prescription meds and do not participate in any regular checkups or screenings. We know of few others our age and younger who aren't on some regimen or haven't gotten "work done." I liken it to taking your car to Manny, Moe and Jack: they need to find something wrong so they can charge you to fix it. Don't give them the opportunity - problem solved.
Loonster
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Do we trust that the published R0 numbers are actually R0? If the people that calculated R0 failed to account for 50% natural immunity, they would get R0 wrong. The actual R0 may actually be double what is published.
Mannfm11
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The latest John E. Hoover is very interesting (I am John Cullen). He has been working on the flu numbers in conjunction with the CV19 numbers. The flu epidemic is still going on. There is something in the numbers that will blow your mind, like NY and a few other states were ratholing flu deaths from the start of the flu season to late March. I would like to see the death certificates investigated. The death tally is flat until late March. ON a graph, it looks like a railroad track running into a mountain. It is like they had the inside info on what was coming. Most states, the graphs look normal. I think this situation prevails in the big 5 Democrat states and maybe Louisiana.

John is taking these numbers out of state and CDC sites. There is clearly a distinction between CV19 and P&I deaths. It brings to mind why they didn't push the anti flu remedies, while all this crap was going on. P&I deaths outnumber Cv19 deaths in all but a few states and are close to even in states where CV19 numbers have been high. Unfortunately, John has moved to a $5 a month minimum subscription site on Patreon. Because I like information on conspiracies, I paid.

This entire game is a series of disinformation that beats anything the NAZI's and Communists ever did. Any truth is bludgeoned and any science is rewritten. There has been a multi-billion dollar PR campaign run through the most unreliable source of information on Earth, the MSM, which is full time bludgeoning Trump and pushing Pariahs. They bludgeoned Trump for 3 months about masks. At some point, it isn't worth the fight. They lied about HCQ. They spent 2 months bitching about testing. The establishment can't push any message except we have to wait for a vaccine, one only a fool would take.

The truth never comes out in the media. Russia didn't hack the DNC. Flynn was not guilty of anything. Adam Schiff was intentionally lying for 3 years and still lying, as is Pelosi, but nothing is said ny his platforms to correct the record. Roger Stone was engaged in online bull****ting about what was a fraud event to begin with. Paul Manafort was convicted of a crime they earlier said he wasn't guilty of. The CV19 is really a bad cold, not a tragic illness as they push. Wear a mask, they work is what they tell us.

In response, you have to search for the truth online. Well, they are now censoring the truth there too. Story was NZ mosque shooter was right wing extremist. Truth? He was a Chinese communist sympathizer. Result? I'm banned from Twitter. Canadian rep is censored for reading shooter manifesto in response to raghead attack as a witness. The whole thing was stricken from the record. You can't get more Orwellian than this.

So here is KD making one more exposure of the nonsense we face every day in the media, from the officials, including the bludgeoned Trump, from the lying Politicians in general. Every move to the truth is bludgeoned by the Democrats in office. They are hiding the truth. Anyone who pushes back is put in the people are going to die because of you camp they use along with the racist tag on everything they push us over the cliff with. The paid liars on TV merely echo their lies.

How many coincidences in a row have to happen before you realize these people are running genocide on our country and the world. This entire plan was outlined in a 2010 Rockefeller Foundation publication. It was spelled out at the end of October 2019 in Bill Gate's 201 Conference, complete with a PR plan to push the nonsense. Why were the P&I deaths flat for NY and other states until the middle of March? The CDC map showed a raging epidemic in NY for a month prior. Did all those people hold out dying for a month?

You can see the fraud in Texas. Most Democrats from Austin below are Marxists. Hidalgo County shows 15,153 cases from 57,854 tests. Nueces County shows 7994 cases out of 19,751 tests. State history is an infection percentage of 11.36%. The infection rate for these 2 counties are 26.19% and 40.47% respectively. How many standard deviations are these outside the mean? What would the infection rate for the public at large have to be to achieve that kind of positive percentage? I don't have daily counts, but watching the death tallies out of these 2 counties, I suspect 35% of the daily death count for the state are coming out of these 2 counties. Dallas and Harris county, in opposition have been stuck in the 500 range for several days, Harris finally topping 600 today.

We are looking at an international conspiracy. If Trump spoke up, which he has before and called this a hoax, the press would have a field day. It is a hoax. Anyone with a memory hole can start remembering the past, the conflicting lies told in the MSM by non experts paraded as experts, including Fauci, who is nothing more than a fixture in the DC medical crime network and the fight against cheap remedies. The nonsense about masks, going against decades of research on them, is the tip of the iceberg.

I have said since the start, they need a death count. THEY DESPERATELY NEED A DEATH COUNT TO VALIDATE THIS DISEASE. Why are the counts against cases so high in the north? Did they rathole deaths, knowing this scam was coming? The death rate in Texas is clearly going to come in under 2%, 4885 deaths against 375,000 confirmed cases. Why is it 8% in NY?

Cullen had some interesting charts and my memory hole recalls there was a claim deaths for 2020, going into April were low. The flu was raging in NY in February and March. Their reported deaths were next to zero. Not so, once the game was on. Flu and CV19 soared. There are other states that appeared the same. This started October 1, 2019. There are indications a select number of Democrat governors and related bureaucrats knew this was coming. There should be an audit of deaths in NY. Anyone that died before April 1, their relatives would know. This is a longshot, but the various data reports show conflicts.

Lastly, Thomas Woods of the Mises Institute reported on a video done a few weeks back that the toll for cardiac arrest was down 40%, according to the statistics. This is something that should be a pretty consistent cause of death. If Cv19 is killing these people, then something besides heart attacks have been killing them for decades and stories about heart disease all these years is just nonsense. He also said what has been said by Karl and myself, that a very large percentage of deaths are people who would have died this year anyhow. How many did they take out of this world on ventilators to get the money? Screw hospice, we can make $39,000 taking this person out.

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Mannfm11
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@Thelaser, what Karl is saying is don't wait for the test to come back. It might be too late. Go to Rudy Giuliani's youtube and look up the Long Island Dr. interview. He said it and a few others have said it to. If the stuff is going to kill you, it will pile on by the 8th day. You probably won't think you have it until day 5. That is when you should take the HCQ recipe. The Long Island doctor lost almost no high risk patients die, because he used the remedy before the test, based on symptoms. A doctor won't prescribe, get another one. Don't let them capture you. They might kill you.

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Gtcstorm51
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Why are the governors not being sued for these mask orders ? If I am not infected, or they have no proof I am, forcing me to wear a mask is assault. They are now forcing businesses to enforce these orders so you can not get into places without the mask. All people are assumed infected and treated as such. WTF !! Soon my job will be forcing me to wear a mask, or I can be fired. Where does this end ? Kids at schools will be abused this fall if they open under these hideous rules.
Jeepguy
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@Pete_brewster
Oh yeah that's because it's always all about him....

yeah like he hasn't bothered to fire doctor sushi and or doctor foul **** that he's also known by....

Yeah Trump is just totally in the not knowing about any of the bad stuff nor does he care to take part except oh no we're not supposed to look at the idea and or the fact that he surrounded himself with everyone who by the way is totally behind it which happens to be both sides!!

everything you said in your comment is basically the same thing that I was making fun of earlier via that certain letter of the alphabet followed by anon but apparently I'm not supposed to mention here but the bottom line is this I think you might be one of those alphabet Anontards!

please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and maybe he was being sarcastic and I just didn't get it please fill me in I really need to know!!

I mean I want to call the guy is totally in charge of the entire motherfuking country but somehow he doesn't know or he's being tricked or blah blah blah blah blah meanwhile Bryant all this oh yeah he was mr. Big Time tough guy that was going to go in a straight and DC yeah yeah he could do it all yeah he was Donald do it all but then when push comes to shove somehow he is a puppet pussy who is getting bullied pushed around blah blah blah blah blah and every other excuse ever possibly fathomed I like how that works because it's a bunch of ****ing ****!!!
Memeticdefense
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Is there anything left in our economy that is not yet a scam? Can anyone provide an example?
Goforbroke
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/....
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Doctors in Northern California say they have seen more deaths from suicide than theyve seen from the coronavirus during the pandemic.

The numbers are unprecedented, Dr. Michael deBoisblanc of John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek, California, told ABC 7 News about the increase of deaths by suicide, adding that hes seen a years worth of suicides in the last four weeks alone.

DeBoisblanc said he believes its time for California officials to end the stay-at-home order and let people back out into their communities.

"Personally, I think it's time," he said. "I think, originally, this was put in place to flatten the curve and to make sure hospitals have the resources to take care of COVID patients. We have the current resources to do that, and our other community health is suffering."
No kidding.

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Thelazer
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Boughtthefarm
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The wife needed an outpatient procedure, but they required a cv19 test beforehand. She came back positive, had no symptoms of any kind. Of course she got 10 days quarantine and the household was told to quarantine 14 days after her last day of quarantine. The health department wanted all her contacts for 2 days before the test. They didn't get them, because they would have insisted those people quarantine.

If the health dept was actually trying to do its job wouldn't they need all contacts from 10 days before the test since there would be no way to know when she was exposed.

Over the two weeks after her positive test everyone else in the household of 5 were tested. All negative. No symptoms in anyone. Since that time the wife's antibody test came back negative.

Obviously she had a false positive. Think of the economic impact of that one false positive. All the people she had contact with and all the people in those peoples household taken out of productive society by a false positive. It's insane.
Mabman
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Hi Mr. Denninger,
you've probably already posted this but just in case not:

CDC May 2020 in direct conflict with their own recommendations "Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids... There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."
"In this review, we did not find evidence to support a protective effect of personal protective measures or environmental measures in reducing influenza transmission."
"We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility..." https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/1....
Frat
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@ Bought

Thanks for pointing out why I have not been tested, nor will I be. The absolute chaos it would inflict on my family, friends and job for what's basically a bad cold (no real preexisting conditions here) would be devastating. And, ultimately, the test would worthless, since by the time I got the results I would be over it. What point is there in getting a test? The treatment would not change unless it got very serious, at which point... Other **** would be more important.

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