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FACT: Masks against Covid-19 do not work becasue under the laws of physics they can't and both governors and mayors have and continue to kill your grandfather for political reasons.
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2020-06-25 21:44 by Karl Denninger
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Masks: Let Me Be CRYSTAL Clear*
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There is zero science that the use of masks by the ordinary, unskilled and inattentive public does anything to protect anyone, and there is plenty of evidence that their abusive misuse, which is what an unskilled or inattentive person will do, increases rather than decreases risk because they, whether a "formal mask" or a bandana, concentrates everything that passes through or around it and if you make contact with your hands, which you do any time you "adjust" it, don or doff it, then touch any other person or thing, you transfer dozens or even hundreds of times as much concentrated contamination, including whatever virus particles are included, to that other person or thing.

Yes, you can avoid this through assiduous compliance with protocols for use of masks.  But you won't, I won't, and in fact nobody outside of a formally-trained medical environment does, especially when wearing such a mask for hours at a time or when reusing the same mask.

Everyone with any sort of scientific background knows this.  They know it's fact.  The Surgeon General stated so at the beginning of this pandemic before every single cocksucking virtue signalling bucket of human excrement turned every bit of science on its ear for political gain, exactly as was done with ventilators, contaminated testing materials and willful disregard of the known capacity to differentiate between serious and non-serious cases of this virus within the first WEEKS at a cost of under $20 -- a capability STILL not part of the standard of care published by the NIH and CDC and which, to my knowledge, is not being used anywhere in the United States.  Never mind the nursing home "order" outrage, especially but not limited to the states of New York and Michigan. Every one of these rat bastards, including President Trump, is in part responsible for the death of tens of thousands of Americans and as God is my witness, this nation's people should make damn sure they pay for every one of those deaths.

In addition there is not one scientific study showing masks are effective at actually preventing flu-like viral transmission.  Not one.  There is decades of hard science on respiratory viral transmission.  It is settled.

To this exact point, in addition every single one of these so-called "experts" knew damn well that masks were and are worthless on ordinary people and so do all the governors and mayors.  How do we know this?  Because every single one of them sat back and let thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of individuals take to the streets for a month straight to "protest" the death of a man, including rioting, looting, committing arson and even taking over six city blocks in Seattle, yet none of them sent in a single police officer, "code enforcement" person or anyone else to issue tickets and lock-up violators who did not wear said masks and keep their 6' distances.

In fact many of them including Fauci himself made PUBLIC statements that such "protests" were ok and "important enough" that their "mandate" did not apply and some of them, specifically DC's Mayor, explicitly joined them by giving permission to paint the streets with their protest banners!

That crap started a month ago.  It continued in the "CHOP", where the very same dickhead Inslee who refused to cite even one of the people there who did not maintain that protocol thinks he can issue said orders for everyone else.

Likewise an Oregon County issued a mask order that exempted blacks, proof positive on its face that compliance with said order is nothing more than an act of fealty to a pustule-ridden body of emperors who have been parading around naked while asserting that they are in fact clothed in the finest of silk.

Now the claim is made that "even more" orders are required.  Let me be clear: Either the cause of said increases in cases are from the protests and other actions of millions who ignored said orders without consequence and thus are a punishment leveled upon others for the unlawful acts of those who so-protested, or the protests did not cause the spikes and thus proved that masks do exactly nothing as there was no community spread from the writ-large lack of their use.

In either case the bottom line remains the same; NO American should accept punishment for the acts of others, nor should they accept orders that have no basis in science and fact.  One of these two facts must be true for all mask orders as a matter of simple logic.

Therefore let me make my response, and assert that this should be every American's response to any such order, having been proved by the actions of the very people issuing them that they have exactly nothing to do with public health: NO.

And may I further assert that if you claim to be American, if you claim that a single word of the Constitution has any meaning whatsoever then you must not only also state in a loud, clear voice NO you must also be willing to enforce said reply by any means that may become necessary.

Incidentally, this does not and must not extend only to masks.  Think about it.

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M1919a2
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ABSOLUTELY!
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regarding people who support the so-called authorities, they are told by me in no uncertain terms that they are either with me or against me. If the time comes to turn on people, they are in as much peril as the impotent authorities.

Supporting the routing of people's undeniable human rights and the constitution is a form of treason.

What was it that the Pres Chimp said? Lending support by tolerating a terrorist or accepting him into one's midst is being a terrorist.

If you lend support to traitors, you are a traitor.

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A common sense thought. Spritz some perfume in a room wearing your mask. If you can smell it the aerosolized scent is passing through your mask just as fast as small particles of virus will. No one knows the concentration necessary for transmission to you personally but other than large particles your mask probably does nothing. Further, long term use, as KD said, creates a cloth dispenser giving you a higher dose than breathing in free open air.
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Step55, I used your comment on a couple of replies in articles and on FB. I hope you don't mind. :)

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Yes. For sure. Masks are stupid by any measure as a response to Coronavirus. But don't let that fool you. The capacity for *stupid* is nearly infinite, and it can go on a whole lot longer than any reasonable person can expect.
Albert Campus knew this ... and lived through it. He wrote about it in his book 'The Plague'.
"When a war breaks out, people say' It's too stupid; it can't last long.' But though a war may well be 'too stupid', that doesn't prevent its lasting. Stupidity has a knack of getting its way."
If the Controllers get their way masks and all the rest of the Corona nonsense are going to be around for a long time.
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@ Beignet - no problem - As Bob Grant used to say "free and open exchange of ideas and opinions"
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All four Scandinavian countries reject masks outright. They just don't say masks are not required. They say masks are counterproductive. Here is Denmark's health authority:

"The Danish Health Authority does not encourage healthy individuals who go about their daily business to wear mouth or face masks as it is uncertain that they have any effect on virus transmission.
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Furthermore, mouth or face masks can cause more harm than good. For one thing, you have to know how to use a mask correctly and how to dispose of it responsibly. Incorrect use of a mouth or face mask can increase the risk of your hands being contaminated with the virus when you, e.g. remove or correct the mouth/face mask, thereby increasing the risk of contact spread. To be effective, it has to cover your mouth and your nose, and you have to dispose of it properly. If you use ordinary, simple paper masks, and do not change the mask frequently, you run the risk of the mask becoming too wet, rendering it ineffective. Wearing a mask may, therefore, lull you into a false sense of security. We also do not recommend that you attempt to either sow or fabricate your own mask."

https://www.sst.dk/en/english/corona-eng....

It is very informative of the political nature of COVID that American officials give mask guidance that is the complete opposite of Denmark. And they give that guidance while rejecting outright the science that Denmark follows.

The full Orwellian reality of American society is unmistakable. There is no truth - in fact to say there is fundamental truth is to be "racist". Rather, American society has fully embraced relativism. Truth and reality are all temporary and defined and redefined to satisfy political objectives.


A society built this way cannot endure. Its economy cannot function. Its laws are meaningless. Education is fruitless. Its science is utterly corrupted.

These are dark and sad times. A sickness truly covers the land but it is not biological, but a sickness of delusion and the hatred of truth.
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Mask mandates will be coming to most states in the coming days. I am cynical to the point now that I think all such mandates, along with the bleating about the "increased number of cases" is all to depress Trump rally attendance.

Our state mandate starts tonight. I expect the coming weeks to be full of me telling people either **** OFF, or "I am protesting George Floyd's death, so I don't need one." That, or South Carolina is about 10 miles away, and has plenty of mask-free grocery stores and restaurants. (Until they mandate masks too, I guess.)
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Cops have enjoyed a certain amount of unflinching support from large parts of the right. A lot of those die hard cop supporters grumbled at them for being the enforcement arm of the Team Karen governors who shut down all of the small businesses that didn't share Team Karen's political agenda, but didn't grumble very much.

Police are quickly running out of friends after this wave of riots. The fun really starts when those cops turn on the only friends they have left once Governor Karen orders them to fine or arrest people for not wearing masks or ignore the next round of house arrests.

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Already people are starting to notice that, oddly the hospitalization rate and death rate seems to be going down even though there are MORE cases. Just like in NYC, when the hospitals don't fill, this will happen nation wide. I give it about 3 more weeks. We already say folks saying F it, opening up and going back to work if they could. We will see the mast thing also drop away if the bodies don't pile up in the hallways within the next 3 weeks.

Now that only gets us to end of July.

What will they come up with for Aug / Sept / Oct to help throw the election.
God only knows.

Better get the old rabbits foot out of the box again.
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I wore N95 masks for years due my occupation working in an indoor soil dust environment.

These all have embedded wire across the nose bridge since cloth or paper will not seal the short radius curve of the human face.

They are made for an individual to bend the wire specific to the curve.

Nasal breathing will follow the shortest past of least resistance. If this area is not covered properly all you breathe is unfiltered air.
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They also suck badly.

I have a small number of N95s that I keep around as I often do work with hazardous things. The other day I had occasion to get out the angle grinder to use on something that could easily produce silicate-laden dust. On went the N95.

I know how to fit them, so no big deal. But they're ******ned uncomfortable, and after an hour or so, they get saturated too at which point they bypass like crazy. For the half-hour I needed to wear it, ok, it's fine, but guess what -- when I took it off I got the **** all over my hands. Since the risk was INHALATION and I have a thing called a sink I didn't give a **** about that, but in the case where the risk is a VIRUS it's a different matter.

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I posted this on my new Facebook account. They will either ignore it or attack it and I am ready. Let the games begin!

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You can tell that the mask believers have obviously never worn a mask at all or much less in a dirty environment.
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This "Mandate" will be interesting. I am willing to risk both arrest and karen harassment. So is my wife...We will see.

"They" can NOT let my wife or I get away with it as it destroys the narrative, at the same time the whole process for arrest will destroy their narrative. Intersting times we live in.

My suspicion is this particular area will have a long slow walk into compliance as I went to the store last night and had the same 50/50ish maskerbaters vs non-maskers. But today dickhead inslee's "law" going into effect. We will see.

I also have suspicion the closer we get to urban areas the more law enforcement and karen will be on patrol.


I will keep you all posted.


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Any law that tell me what I MUST wear is (At least should be) unconstitutional. Any law that puts my health or forces me to put other people's health at risk, should again be unconstitutional.

Store clerks, police, sjw and karens are not in a position to determine what is healthy for me. I also get the whole "We have the right to refuse service" but when and where it becomes discrimination is blurry.

Theoretically "Ross Dress for Less" can bar me from entering their premise for not maskerbating, because "The safety of others". At the same time they have NO right or authority to ask what my medical conditions are, nor do I have any expectation of proving it to them. Once I establish with Ross that I have a medical condition that makes being a maskerbater unsafe for me and MY "safety" can they still legally bar me from entry? If they trespass me, they have to write the reason why. If the police get involved, they have to enforce the trespass. Even though I have clearly and repeated stated I have a medical condition that makes wearing a mask unsafe for me and the police tell me Ross CAN bar me from entering their premise, I believe I will have established grounds for discrimination.

Interesting times we live in

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Mangymutt our county has seen incredibly few cases and deaths, despite being right across the river from portland and all the insanity that goes on there with regard to the homeless and communists.

To the point where I think maybe some of the hospital / medical people are actually competent and are reading the ticker / using all available toolsets regardless of what the fraudsters say.

I am still puzzling on the details, but when you have a county of 500k people and 30 deaths and about 100 people total ever hospitalized with this, and most of the deaths are from nursing homes from people that would have died anyway...


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I guess if you get stopped for not wearing a mask, just tell whoever stops you that you are on your way to a protest against systematic cracism*.

Likely whoever speaking with will "hear" racism, and it'll be ok, you'll get a pass. smiley




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@Mangy

Good luck, good sir. I am wondering when "Butthole Beshear" (my 7yo's name for our illustrious governor) is going to try to mandate this. HEY, YOU DUMB ****S, WE ARE GOING INTO AT LEAST 6 MONTHS OF THIS "PANDEMIC," AND YOU WANT THIS *NOW*?!

It's never been about the virus; it's always been about control. And every ****** controlling-bitch Karen out there who can't manage her own life WANTS TO MANAGE YOURS.

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At what point does karens maskerbate shaming become harassment?

I have NO expectation of excusing my "health" issues with every karen or biff who question why I can NOT wear a mask. A polite "Dude why aren't you maskerbating?" to which the answer "Health issues" should be enuff conversation outside my doctors office. What happens if karen and biff want me to "prove" to them I have health issues? What happens if several karen and biffs decide to "shame" me. What happens if karen or biff decide to touch or physically restrict me. What will the police do? What will the stores do?

Interesting times.

I heard dickhead inslee was in the Yakama Valley yesterday, and he did not wear a mask, but made an excuse as to why he didn't have to wear one. (This is second hand information, not verified) If dickhead inslee thinks he can just make up a law based on "Because" and exempt himself "Because" why should ANYONE listen to him. EVER!!!

Oh because three plus months ago he told a bunch of tax paying citizens they were "Non-Essential" and those same Stupid, stupid tax payers proved him right, by shutting their doors an walking away from their livelihoods. Because he allowed criminals, thugs, drug dealers and low lifes to take over and establish their own "nation" in the biggest city in washington state. And the Stupid, stupid tax paying citizens just let it happen.

Now these same Stupid, stupid people allow dickhead inslee to make an unconstitutional, unhealthy law...Because. And watch him state "He is above the law he just made" and do nothing but say "ok".

Interesting times.

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I'm making my semi-annual trip into the Tri-Cities (Kennewick, Richland & Pasco) today for supplies sans mask. I'll holler if I need bail money..

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Butthole Beshear!! LMAO!!

I think I like your 7-year old, Frat. And stop that you people, NOT in a Joe Biden or Catholic priest way.

Just don't go repeating around him my name for my governor - the bald, fat **** Lockdown Larry Hogan.

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Don't turn on any mainstream news. Guaranteed they will have some doctor on saying that if we all wear masks X number of lives will be saved. How they quantify that I have no ****ing clue but from what I've seen the sheep are busy lapping that **** up.

I'm ok if Costco or Menards wants to mandate masks, I don't need to give them my business. But I'll be damned if I'm wearing a mask in a public park or while walking down the sidewalk. And by the sight of most masks the Karens are wearing a trimming from my screen door would be just as effective. I'm surrounded by idiots.
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