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Pandemicsamurai
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He = Dershowitz in all cases where I say "he" ...

Del took it too easy on him as that simple logical explanation I just provided would have shown the flaw in Dersh's reasoning skills
Pominoz
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Vaccinations wont be mandatory but they will be linked to government benefits and other incentives. It already happens here in Australia for kids vaccinations. You don`t get vaccinated you wont qualify for govt benefits.You don`t get vaccinated you won`t be able to travel abroad. Problem solved.
Gauntlet33
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@Pominoz: Exactly.

Although it's possible that vaccinations may actually be physically forced, they likely won't go that route because it would constitute a battery for which many could sue for damages (assuming they survive).

Many instead predict that they'll "only" be mandatory if you actually want to function in our society for such silly things as buying groceries, going into any stores, travelling out or into the country, maybe even having your utilities turned on, etc. etc. Washington's governor said it may be necessary to require vaccinations to buy groceries, so this isn't rhetoric. Don't have a house with a backyard where you can grow your own food? Too bad, they don't care.

So for those that can't read the sarcasm, for all intents and purposes, it will be mandatory.
Tickerguy
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@Gauntlet33 - At the point they impede reasonably-necessary or constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms (such as to travel INSIDE the US) there will be MANY people who will start shooting -- they will say nothing first, and they won't be obvious about who gets it first either.

There's not a prayer in Hell of preventing it either given the number of guns and people with them in the nation.

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I don't care who I hurt, I don't care who I do wrong.
This is your mess I'm stuck in, I really don't belong.
When I take out my bottle, filled up high with gasoline,
You can tell by the night fires where Rael has been, has been.
-- Genesis, 'Back In NY City'
M1919a2
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@Ticker Guy

You know full well exactly what this man is doing and the price he will pay, speaking the TRUTH of TRUE POWER to the cowardly face of PERCEIVED power!

It is your call, to post or not post this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqbLPmfd....

Pete_brewster
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@Tickerguy

The bad guys pay their jackbooted goons a lot of money to make sure nobody throws them against a wall or out of a helicopter without a parachute.

Things only ever start to happen when the bad guys rub out of cash and the goons start missing meals.

Our absolute best-case scenario---throughout the western world---is a Chilean-style coup in which a few patriots in uniform overthrow the Karens, and commit ten to fifteen years to making sure the nation goes back to work full time, and that would-be Karens are never in a position to regain power over decent people again.
Eleua
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Yes, this is directed at the enemies of the Ruling Class, which consists primarily of Whites and Christians - you know, the "Deplorables" and "Bitter Clingers."

One thing about Whites is they do have a very long fuse, but once lit, it's damn near impossible to put out. That is being tested by the suicidal out-group preference of many, but that is largely because they are constantly pummeled with anti-White propaganda by the Ruling Class, who happen to run all the major institutions that shape public opinion.

The other feature is that the response tends to be fairly well thought out and has a high degree of complexity, organization, and outcome planning, versus the knee-jerk, emotional, impulsive outbursts by non_Whites.

Here is a great video that shows how a cult film from 20 years ago explores this topic.

Think Killdozer...that was over a year in the planning.

The S is going to HTF sooner or later. My guess is mid Autumn, right around the election. It should be spectacular, and horrifying.


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Diversity + proximity = WAR

Once you see what the problem is, you can't unsee it.
Steve98765
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And now again
Queen Whitmer (MI) extended lockdown until June 12.

I guess she is trying to win the dick wagging contest among the blue state governors!!!!

Heil wHitler!!
Tickerguy
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@Steve98765 - Some people, at least, had advance notice of this.

Mackinaw Island business opening dates -- several were June 12th. Others were earlier (like this weekend); you don't think that was "just a coincidence", do you?

Just-made decision? No. But you can forget about that entire area; everything north of roughly Cadillac is toast as ex a few places like Boyne the three months between Memorial Day and Labor Day is literally all they have.

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I don't care who I hurt, I don't care who I do wrong.
This is your mess I'm stuck in, I really don't belong.
When I take out my bottle, filled up high with gasoline,
You can tell by the night fires where Rael has been, has been.
-- Genesis, 'Back In NY City'
M1919a2
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@Eleua

"One thing about Whites is they do have a very long fuse, but once lit, it's damn near impossible to put out. That is being tested by the suicidal out-group preference of many, but that is largely because they are constantly pummeled with anti-White propaganda by the Ruling Class, who happen to run all the major institutions that shape public opinion."

Thank you for opening the way to this epic poem:

THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.
M1919a2
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@Pete_Brewster

We the People having full forever authority by God to arms and as such do not need the 'few patriots in uniform' as Peru does to throw the followers of Charles I out. That is something a canuck would NEVER understand, Not now Not ever!

Not just saying!
M1919a2
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@Ticker Guy

Trump, as defective as he might be, just nailed Fauxci with his taking Hydroxychloroquine treatment because of this on remdesivir as reported at zerohedges link:

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/rem....

M1919a2
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It just keeps getting better! Again from Zerohedges: $650 Billion Facebook To Cut Pay Of Remote Workers Moving To Lower Cost-Of-Living Areas

Link: https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/650....

Wow, Would have THUNK zucker-f-en-burger would have done that? Gee, mark send all those india indians home and you'll really make a killing!

Have a hard time just saying - just saying
Mabman
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Just more evidence that KD was right all along.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gran....
Steve98765
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@Karl

Sad thing if Biden pick Whitmer as VP she will be the most mentally competent person on the ticket. That's not saying much.

Now I need to decide between the "Stabile Guinuess" or a man that is deteriorating into dementia.

Then the Dems will apply the 25th on him, and the entire country can be under reign of queen Whitmer.
Gynojunkie
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Incept: 2020-03-19

AZ
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@Eleua: The content of your post reminds me of this:

"When Blacks riot cities burn; when Whites riot CONTINENTS burn."
Ebt
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Ivermectin + Doxycycline could be the answer. Excellent!!!

It could mean there will be Trump rallies this Fall + I can start going back to the gym (if/when it opens). Things could be looking up!

https://www.newsmax.com/us/ivermectin-dr....
Bluehengal
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Incept: 2020-05-15

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@Gauntlet33, Whenever I read "We're All In This Together", I reply:

"No: togetherness is forbidden; we are all in this separately, individually."

I hate this "togetherness" meme. It is destructive of clear thinking.
Whitehat
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I am still in the camp that the authorities know that they dare not enforce any mandatory vaccine with the following reasoning. Please note that I am not an anti-vaxer and see significant evidence that some are very useful perhaps necessary, there are way too many provided to children and young adults, quality control has suffered in many cases leading to bad outcomes along with a cavalier attitude to ingredients in some glaring cases, claims for injury should be handled as torts in full light and that any volume business is subject to consumer safety issues with the non fire-able government employees doing their usual ****ty jobs.

Take for example the polio tragedy, perhaps due to the fact that we lost the vectors for natural human immunity. No this is not an argument for living in filth being good. One can even accept that the outbreak was dying off concurrently with the development of successful and effective vaccines. Look at the society of the time; no it was not perfect. A lot more of the old order values were present, and it was much less selfish, short term thinking than today. The notion of accountability was still very much present for any person presenting a solution or in charge of public decisions. It could be argued that we were still an ascending society. Due to these factors there was still a high degree of trust.

Under the above consciousness people could assume things were mostly done right even if enforcement of goodness would have been impossible. There is a greater assumption of people doing the right thing in such a society. Mistakes due to lack of knowledge, human error are acceptable due to the public's perception that people are not perfect especially in a time-sensitive crisis. Is trust sometimes abused in such a society, absolutely. There are also tragedies as unfortunate outcomes when humans modify nature. The one thing that the public assumes under this model is that there is accountability, guilt and worse shame. It is never perfect, but a hell of a lot better than we have now and since.

Since the 1970s the public assumes that goodness, trust, honor, professionalism, accountability and even guilt and ultimate shame are the exceptions to the rule. No one dares to blindly trust someone taking his money or worse yet ordering him to do something. For all of the decades since actually proven examples abound, it is in the cinema, common discourse and taught to children.

Vast swaths of the population know that officials lie and are corrupt. They also know that business and pharma are no better. It takes nothing to find actual provable evidence of malfeasance in the vaccine industry. The story of the Swine Flu vaccine debacle is well known to a few generations and easily discoverable to the last two. Expect that story to be revisited along with old television news documentaries really soon if they try to push something like a COVID-19 vaccine. Here is the wrinkle.

Some may actually take such a vaccine begrudgingly, possibly a requirement for work or school. Remember that the public is a post 1968 mentality as described above some feeling such longer and worse, yet all know it well. The minute people have bad reactions everyone who takes it now believes he has a ticking time-bomb in him. The vaccine takers join mentally with those who suffer the consequences of refusal and share data. People have fear and a sense of being had, played as the fool. The vitriol gets insane for the people with children injured by this. Some people go off the reservation with any hint of a requirement and are data and story super spreaders feeding the flames.

The politicos read things like Machiavelli. They know that stretching out fear too long breeds hatred which is bad. Unpleasantness must be quick and decisive for quality fear. Right now they have a pass because the virus is the thing feared and they are saviors. The potential (slim chance we know) of an effective vaccine is hope, not oppression although some lower level authorities do make these types of mistakes. If people in the natural care world or anyone else goes ape ****, they look like they are removing people's hope or are out of the mainstream no matter how many secretly agree with them. The politicians will let this solve itself by a vaccine being available, letting others make decisions and carry the fallout. A requirement brings to the surface the people's actual perception of a low-trust society.

Here is what happens if there is a negative vaccine event(s) sufficiently noteworthy or a damn good sympathetic news story about some bad outcome. Everything about this crisis that people secretly know comes to the surface. A lot of people are also brought up to speed. All of the memory of the pent up fear turns to hatred, and an idea comes to mind how it will spread.

We are a descending society. Respect for life, neighbor and goodness and beauty keep decreasing. A culture of ugliness does ugly things no matter how much we do not like it. It would not surprise me if people are individually and perhaps collectively making actual threats (really promises) to the politicos that if they cross certain lines they will do harm in the future. Do I like this, no; it sucks to see society be this way. Over the years of listening to people's psychology, their humor, off hand remarks, reading the most innocuous posts one comes to the conclusion that people will kick things up to the next level and how they will do it. Call it a sixth sense, or as the Joker says in the Batman movie, "I'm just ahead of the curve."

People are going to promise to do harm to people and their families in the future, perhaps a time range. These threats might be made where the public can see them. An anonymous threat is bad enough. Add in an uncertain time period that removes any chance of a normal life or effective protection. The politicos and authorities must know this is a possibility and might have received actual communications. Progress more and more as a descending society with greater loss of trust everyday, remember mainstream media is now a pejorative term, means that the unwritten code is substituted by evil. We are progressing to a stalking society where people view their opponents as prey. The smarter the hunter, the greater the patience.

Do you think that the politicians want to light this candle or stoke an already burning fire with open tyranny of requiring a mass vaccination of the population? It could only get worse if people get sick, although the requirement would be bad enough. And this is a really bad bad in and of itself.

The simplest solution is in front of everyone, and no one sees it. Over a few elections cycles, simply have as one's requirement the the candidate with no elected office experience gets your vote. It does not matter if he is the local barber or a raving socialist if that is the only choice under this plan. It does not matter if he supported most of your causes and beliefs. He is gone. Remember, what did he do to stop this mess, answer nothing. Everyone gets fired and never hired for this kind of work again. This will get their attention really fast. DAs, judges, council members, senators (hey, the popular vote for them works here), mayors, governors, president. The only criteria is never held any political or elected office. It does not matter if he cannot write, someone can help him. Think that we can honestly do worse than now?

Why the above? Simple we keep calling upon the citizens to stand up and protest, not comply, the euphemistic rush the guard with the machine gun, be brave, etc. Yes, this all makes sense, and is part of the solution. I got another axe to grind, and it's personal.

Who in a position of power or authority knows that this situation is wrong, or any situation in the past for that matter, and has stood up and said NO. Has he argued vehemently knowing that his future, wealth, perhaps life is in danger? This has historical precedence and shows human failing.

In the great tragedies of man's inhumanity to his fellow who in power stood as that lone voice and said that something could not be done. Watched a movie which supposedly reenacts the meeting where the Nazis extermination scheme was soberly and formally discussed and implemented. What if one man stood up and argued vehemently that such a thing was fundamentally wrong? Yes, he could have been shot, perhaps in vain, but someone else might have taken his torch. It is cowards who permit human tragedy as leaders. Just like we wished for the people to rush the gunner at the loading of the boxcars for transportation to the camps, why not was it expected for said gunner to refuse to shoot or turn his gun on the other guards? More contemporary, what if people making hazardous medications stood up and ended their careers by saying that they could not do this and making a very public stink. What if the cops said ****-you to any order violating the constitution?

Every person in political, enforcement and regulatory authority has a legal requirement of the job for which he is very well compensated an OBLIGATION to bear the personal cost of saying no. Every one of them is guilty.

The punishment is loss of their jobs. They are fired, and all it takes is a simple vote for anyone else.

The solution is so easy that no one sees it. You are all fired. Imagine the campaign slogans. "I have no experience. Don't know what I am doing, but can't be any worse. Hey, could i do a worse job? You've tried everything else. You can't break something more." or, my favorite, "i haven't told any lies, yet."

Or, you can vote for the terrible evil that could come of this.

How would you prefer to live?

How about starting over from scratch. How long do you think that the civil service would last under this plan with regular WORKING folk, outsiders running the thing? oh, I forgot the proper term: deep state.

How about deep six the deep state.

It could be the only job where one could get it by saying he has no experience.

You're all fired.

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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
Zappafan
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Again from Zerohedges: $650 Billion Facebook To Cut Pay Of Remote Workers Moving To Lower Cost-Of-Living Areas


Sounds like the old game of having your "official" home address being Aunt Millie's house and having her forward you the mail is back in fashion.

I avoided changing my automobile registration from NY -> Maryland for about a decade using that trick in the 90's.

Gaming the system aside, this is quite deflationary.

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"I rule on land, air and sea, pass judgment on humanity
Winds blow from the bowels of hell
Will we give warning, only time will tell
Satan rears his ugly head, to spit into the wind": Megadeth
Tickerguy
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That don't work when they can see where you connect to the office from...

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I don't care who I hurt, I don't care who I do wrong.
This is your mess I'm stuck in, I really don't belong.
When I take out my bottle, filled up high with gasoline,
You can tell by the night fires where Rael has been, has been.
-- Genesis, 'Back In NY City'
Zappafan
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Got VPN ? Endpoints tend to be in big cities. But yeah, given enough motivation they can bust you.

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"I rule on land, air and sea, pass judgment on humanity
Winds blow from the bowels of hell
Will we give warning, only time will tell
Satan rears his ugly head, to spit into the wind": Megadeth
Tickerguy
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Like most I'm sure require you connect their VPN.

Trying to double-tap that probably won't work.

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I don't care who I hurt, I don't care who I do wrong.
This is your mess I'm stuck in, I really don't belong.
When I take out my bottle, filled up high with gasoline,
You can tell by the night fires where Rael has been, has been.
-- Genesis, 'Back In NY City'
Whitehat
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They can also nail you for residence based upon cellular phone data, just the tower data. Add in the license plate scanners and one is seriously screwed as the states share that information and mine it for consistent hits of the same plate in localized areas. The former got an acquaintance of mine who spends summer in NYC and the rest of the year in Florida. He is now militant about how many days he spends in NYC and documents everything.

Currently researching with the help of my accountant for when i leave this place and then decide to surf my soon to be former and other states. Is one working if he is summering in a state and happens to have income being generated passively and what is the interpretation of that for web based businesses or for consultants? States and localities are going to become very ambitious and also look for former residents gaming the system.

Be careful.

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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
Zappafan
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Given that Face-phister can easily afford to pay Bay area salaries this makes me wonder what their real motivation is. I can easily see a scenario where they did the math on what happens to Bay area real estate if large numbers of techies start relocating to Idaho, Montana or my old hometown in upstate NY.

Given that FB is likely in bed with local real estate developers and the DC criminals, it would not surprise me if this is a move to forestall that.

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"I rule on land, air and sea, pass judgment on humanity
Winds blow from the bowels of hell
Will we give warning, only time will tell
Satan rears his ugly head, to spit into the wind": Megadeth
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