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2019-11-07 15:01 by Karl Denninger
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Amused
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I've been a vocal advocate of Trump being bitch slapped, not because of some rose colored blinders that he did something that the others hadn't in shaking down Ukraine, or that the Left is pure like a Virgin and the MAGA is the devil, far from it.

I am an advocate of this fight to expose all the dirty laundry across the board.

It is fairly obvious to anyone looking at it that Rudy and his benefactor, the former Oligarch who got screwed by the prior administration are just looking to be able to do their own scams, like Obama and Biden and Kerry did.

My issue is with the audacity of the hypocrisy of saying they are not engaging in the same sort of shakedowns... while they clearly run the exact...same...****ing...shakedown, trying to put their people back in the LNG industry, get the Oligarch's charges dropped here, launder money to the RNC, etc.

Want to go after the Bidens? Or the Clintons? Fine, be my guest, there is PLENTY there... but don't run the same...God**** scams...and then tell me you are fighting corruption.
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Amused type away all u want but before you post that about Rudy lets consider his past history. Not many men are willing to take on the NY mob. Rudy was. Did Rudy after throwing them in jail set up his own racketeering? Maybe Rudy sees taking down the swamp rats as his crowning achievement.

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I am beginning to think a mass revolt/civil war is desired.

The corruption is so deep if it were to be rooted out all civil services would likely stop as there would be noting holding the system together after most people are jailed. I think the system is so close to coming apart the only way not to be hanged alive for being corrupt is to turn the citizenry against itself and jet with the ill gotten gains.

We know from experience that when .gov ****s someone over they tend to take it out on their neighbor and not .gov. This does not hold true in a couple situations (Dallas cop killings, Oakland cop killings) but primarily it is the case. Someone has a bad day at work and the spouse/children usually pay the price, not the dickhead boss or coworker.

It wouldn't be a far stretch to think the various 'cultural' divisions have been installed to create a focal point for rage that is not directed at .gov. Call it an insurance program if you will...
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Themortgagedude:
Like most things the reality is a lot more nuanced than the rhetoric, or even the vulgar.

Rudy did take down the mob there's no disagreement about that. Where there is a lot of disagreement isn't some of the methods of how he did it, and how he was compensated by those that replaced the power vacuum that was created.

I'm not saying he is dirty, or doesn't deserve credit for his accomplishments.

I'm also not saying he is an angel or any of his benefactors of the past decade or so are much better than the people that he took down.

The reality is always somewhere more in the middle than people want to admit.
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Amused, Trump didn't set this **** up. The Democrat Party set this mess up, starting with Woodrow Wilson, maybe the worst President in US history. This is how fascism and communism work. Anyone who has read something other than main stream bull**** has known about this forever.

What do you think "For Reasons of National Security" means? 80% of the time, it means they are covering up their own crimes. Going after Trump won't expose this. Trump is exposing it. Obama added to it. Bush I & II added to it. They kept their mouths shut because they were put in power by this group. So would have been McCain, Romney, Gore and Kerry. The last guy these people didn't want was Reagan and he was mysteriously shot within 60 days of taking office.


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KD, we are dealing with politicians. THEY ARE CROOKS UNTIL PROVEN DIFFERENT

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It wouldn't be a far stretch to think the various 'cultural' divisions have been installed to create a focal point for rage that is not directed at .gov.

This.

It's nothing new either. The British used similar strategies in controlling the sprawling colonies of their former Empire. Britain didn't have an army large enough to forcibly occupy all of these places. So, instead, they would draw political boundaries, or shape local governing bodies, in a deliberate way so that there was indigenous group conflict baked into the mix.

Then, they'd keep the two indigenous conflicting sides at each other's throats, and all Britain had to do was play the role of "balance tipper" between the two, in order to maintain control.

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