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2019-08-11 09:11 by Karl Denninger
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And Four Years Later.... TOLDYASO!
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Gee, remember this article?

This is what your "convenience" has gotten you folks -- a car that is trivial to rip off for anyone with a modicum of technical ability.


Well the crooks haven't....

Some of the UK's newest and most popular cars are at risk of being stolen in seconds by exploiting weaknesses in keyless entry systems.

The systems let drivers open and start their cars without taking their key out of their pocket.

What Car? magazine tested seven different car models fitted with keyless entry and start systems.

A DS 3 Crossback and Audi TT RS were taken in 10 seconds, and a Land Rover Discovery Sport TD4 180 HSE in 30.


4 years later, still happening..... all in the name of "convenience."  After all the manufacturers don't pay the insurance premiums -- YOU DO.


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I hate the way cars are now built with all the electronics and screens. I drive a 1996 Ford 150 truck which my wife wishes I would get rid of and get a newer model. I keep telling her I am not paying 30K+ for truck with all the latest technology.

I can work on my truck and If I had to replace the engine and drive train I could do it for less than 8K.

My wife drives a Caddy with the fob instead of a keys. The thing is a pain in the ass getting in and out with it blowing the horn all the time to tell you it locked itself or you left the fob in the car.

I don't plan on ever getting a "fob" car and now with the easy hack to steal it I hope someone steals the wife's car....

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I was fortunate to find my current ride on a dealer's used lot in "cream puff" condition. So far it has been. It's my 10th car since 1969, all with manual transmission, which these days is also an anti-theft device. It is the base trim level, which has an ignition key. The two higher trim levels have a keyless system.

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My car has the keyless entry/start thing. Somebody stealing it isn't too high on my list of Things To Worry About though since almost nobody bought this (now discontinued) car because most Murikans wouldn't know a good car if it hit them, very few people even know what it is or notice it in traffic, and I don't leave it in stupid places. It's a VW CC, one of the last ones made. Kinda ugly from certain angles, none of which are related to sitting in it and driving which is fantastic. Kinda impractical if you have kids or need to carry lots of things, neither of which apply to my current situation. Doesn't get the greatest mileage at around 27mpg combined, but I NEVER have to worry about being able to pass on a two-lane or get up to full interstate speed on even a short ramp to merge safely. And best of all, it has no corporate tracking permanent wifi or any of that ****. The parts are there for VW's version of OnStar, but it's deactivated and fuse pulled. Very nice seats, too.
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The fobs are bad enough, but even on cars that use keys, the keys are all chipped. The manufacturers took a key, which can be made for less than $5 in most places and made them hard to duplicate and drove the cost up to $35-$100 for a ****ing key. *******s, all of them.
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I very reluctantly purchased my 2014 Toyota Venza with a keyfob that I knew at the time was a big security risk. So far, nobody has stolen it, and I hope to keep driving it for many years.
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Just one of many reasons that my 98 12v Cummins could sell for more than I paid for it 10 years ago even though it has 300k miles now.
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