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2019-05-29 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Did You Indeed Have A Dream?
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MLK was an iconic figure, right?

There are streets named for him in virtually every town across America.

He was a reverend, a Man of God, who led a movement that ultimately achieved so much -- the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act -- and more.

Oh really?

Secret FBI tapes that accuse Martin Luther King Jr of having extramarital affairs with '40 to 45 women' and even claim he 'looked on and laughed' as a pastor friend raped a parishioner exist, an author has claimed. 

The civil rights hero was also heard allegedly joking he was the founder of the 'International Association for the Advancement of P***y-Eaters' on an agency recording that was obtained by bugging his room, according to the sensational claims made by biographer David Garrow - a Pulitzer prize-winning author and biographer of MLK. 


I've long known that contrary to popular belief -- that MLK was a "pure pacifist" -- he in fact was nothing of the sort.  That was the public persona that was necessary for him to gain the political currency necessary to make his case, and he took beatings -- several of them at the hands of various white authority figures -- in furtherance of that.

If you think filling the National Mall was simply to give his iconic "I have a Dream" speech you're dead wrong and ought to re-think your premise.  Tell me how many of the times the National Mall has been filled since which actually resulted in legislation clamping down on civil rights abuses, or for that matter any positive legislative change.

What do you think King actually told Kennedy on the day of the march?  Oh by the way King met with LBJ too.  Do you think those were all photo ops, crumpets and tea?

Never forget that Democrats have never given a wet crap about Civil Rights.  Senator Byrd was a former wizard in the KKK for crying out loud, and yet he remained in office as a Senator until he died in 2010.  He is the longest-serving Senator in US history and was a flaming racist.  While he claimed to renounce the Klan when he ran for Senate the fact of the matter is that he was caught on national television using the phrase "white ******s" in 2001!

Public narrative is frequently little more than an attempt to polish a turd.

Anyone care to take a bet on whether there will be a loud, public outcry and demand to rename the myriad streets bearing King's name, and whether all the various monuments will be stripped from the American landscape, exactly as has been done with Confederate war heroes -- real ones at that?

Good luck with that.

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It was just the FBI lying, trying to discredit that great man!

Nobody will believe it, after all, why defame a dead man?! Nobody has come out in the decades since he died and said these things - even with metoo!!

I'm sure there will be more "reasons" to ignore this.

It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

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I have long thought people like MLK and many others in history achieve Myth like status as time goes on and the real truth is most of these people have very fragile feet of clay.

Look at any recent so called "Heroes" like MLK, JFK, Reagan, the list goes on, the Myth and the Legend are taken for fact and the reality of these people fades over time. I have no doubt that King was a Hypocrite and a Mendacious Bastard like many others, Lyndon Johnson also comes to mind, he was a despicable bastard who helped undermine this country more than most, but like King is held a Political hero.

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I don't really expect any better from politicians of any color or party. But all the MLK streets, avenues and boulevards do serve me well. Whenever I am traveling we never get off an exit if there is a street named like that anywhere near.
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True, Bagbalm. The MLK roadways never seem to be in the upscale part of town.
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This is pretty sad but again shows the imperfection of man and the danger of holding humans up on pedestals. I remember a similar ticker regarding Mandela and his atrocities when he passed away. NH was one of the last states to adopt MLK day and the M*******s brought it up non stop about how backwards we were. of course they were moving into NH to escape Mass and taxes but have worked hard to change us into Northern Mass.
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What about the statues?
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I am kind of meh on this one. Everyone knew that he was a serial philanderer and certainly no saint when it came to his personal morals.

How good is the evidence that this lady was actually being raped outside of the hearsay from the FBI files? This sounds like one of those lax bro takedown jobs, just 50 years before it's time. I guess MLK had set up some Baptist Minister******Attic at the local motel and it went on for several days without anyone knowing about it except the black hats in room next door. Maybe boofing was involved as well. It would be nice for someone to actually dig into this evidence and not just dedicate a single line of the article to it as it would be good to lay out the argument here (the source article behind a paywall). I wouldn't be surprised if MLK was involved in this activity since he apparently liked weird orgies and stuff and men of the 1960s weren't exactly congenial towards women anyways. But I am going to need some more smoke here before pulling the fire alarm.

The bigger story for me is that it is clear that the FBI was deeply involved in character assassination back then as they are now. Everyone has poopoo'd the existence of this (non-)core mission of the FBI for decades and dispute it to this day concerning the Russia-Trump investigation, but here is smoking gun evidence that they were out for pure politically motivated character assassination. The saintly whispers concerning the purity of the FBI's mission as a law enforcement agency can be buried in a deeper hole than the legacy of MLK. They are a bad joke when it comes to enforcing laws, and it is clear that their leadership is focused on political gamesmanship and ultimately this is a core value of the organization which has lasted for generations as evidenced by the release of this information. Let's not mention the other core value of putting certain crimes under their personal jurisdiction so that they can opt for selective (non-)prosecution such as in Hillary's clear obstruction of justice when she destroyed subpoenaed computer hardware.
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Did (MLK) Indeed Have A Dream?

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King and his movement promised crowd control to the white establishment. he basically told the authorities that they had better support him or the riots (yes, there were coincidental riots at the same time as his peaceful assembly in Washington.) would be much worse. it was a form of extortion. the country feared a mass racial uprising and the cities had already experienced a massive influx of new black residents. it was like a bomb had been placed in every major metro area. the only way to suppress it would have been a massive military and militia operation on the scale of war with epic casualties. the country would have looked quite bad if it had come to arms. King and those who supported him delivered a message that they could control the black powder keg. he was probably watched by the FBI and other authorities as he represented a corruptible movement subject to manipulation by extra national interests. he demonstrated that he was personally corruptible as a man can be controlled by his weaknesses and desires. the head of the FBI did brilliantly understand the communist threat and how it worked through resident agents and groups.

we had a big problem on our hands with the racial upheaval, its migration and the counter culture. it was the reason that welfare and racial set-asides became sacrosanct. welfare became a type of payoff for peace, other wise known as danegeld.

some even say that the Southern Democrats fostered the movement of blacks to the North for a variety of reasons and created the welfare state to punish the North for the past while ridding themselves of resented groups. have not researched this too far, but there always seemed to be a lingering resentment between the North and South and mutual efforts to press each other over the decades.

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