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The media is trying to cover it up, and so is Occasional Kotex's "spokesman".

Cover up what?  Damn near everything this nutball has spouted, but which can't work.

Even "business insider" has tried to get in on it.

Then there's the "actual resolution" that was put up on the House page, and which now has near-universal buy-in from everyone on the left who has announced they're running for President in 2020.

That resolution is missing some of the actual points that were sold to the public.

Let's cut the crap folks: A "Green New Deal" would, if implemented:

  • Put every coal miner out of work.

  • Put almost every existing car assembler out of work.

  • Put every oil company employee -- including all the roughnecks -- out of work.

  • Ground every aircraft, and put every Boeing employee out of work.

  • Put every air traffic controller out of work.

  • Put every gas station owner and employee, along with all the convenience stores associated with them, out of work.

  • Make personal travel between points more than 200-odd miles distant require 2-3x as much time to accomplish due to the impossibility of doing so without extended periods at charging stations.  This will essentially end the freedom to personally travel beyond 200 miles of one's permanent residence in the United States.

  • Make personal round-trip travel of more than 100-odd miles from home physically impossible without 2+ hour layovers in the middle for the same reason.  For example, it would be physically impossible for me to drive from my home to Pensacola and back without risking being stranded, unless there was a charging station in Pensacola and I was willing and able to remain there for 2+ hours while I recharged my car.

  • Shut down all of the nuclear infrastructure in the United States (some 100+ power reactors) without any way to contain their current fuel and safely consume what remains of it.  Oh, and put all the people who work there (nearly all of whom have good-paying jobs) out of work.

  • Triple the cost of electrical power in the United States.  For industrial users this would be ruinously expensive and destroy what manufacturing remains in this country, putting all of those employees out of work.

  • Make nighttime power intermittent in accessibility, rendering the now-common practice of running a third shift for industrial purposes (when demand charges are lower) impossible due to lack of solar energy across America during that time.  Forced curtailment (read: blackouts) are unavoidable under such a generation mandate since there is insufficient 100% available base load power that can be generated by renewable sources in the United States.

  • The rise in power cost would likely double the cost of "cloud computing" in the United States; power is the primary expense of running large data centers.  They will all move offshore and fire everyone who works there, putting them all out of work.

  • Your electric bill will double and, if you use natural gas for heat today, that will disappear.  In areas too cold for economic use of a heat pump (anything north of the middle of the nation, basically) your winter heating costs will skyrocket by 300-500% as the only "legal" alternative will be electrical resistance heat.  Montana and the Dakotas, along with the northern part of Minnesota and the UP of Michigan will become economically uninhabitable.

At the same time this "Green New Deal" promises to provide "economic and health care security" to everyone irrespective of whether they are able or willing to work, irrespective of whether they are CITIZENS or not (yes, the OFFICIAL RESOLUTION includes illegal invaders as it says PERSONS, not CITIZENS) and irrespective of whether they intentionally poison themselves.  "Free" and unlimited medical care for every 300+lb fattie who gorges on donuts and drinks themselves half to death (as we do now) can't be paid for today; we spend $400 billion of federal and state money on avoidable expense right here and now every year as a result of coddling adults who refuse to stop eating fast carbs rather than "offend" them by telling them to cut that crap out or get nothing.  That spending is already exponentially increasing and if not stopped now will bankrupt the nation within the next six years.

If you think this "deal" would be some "economic renaissance" you're out of your mind.  The economic impact of such a "Green New Deal" would be the annihilation of our economy.  No other nation will go along with anything approaching this sort of suicide pact; we will be left alone while all the other nations of the world, especially China, feast on what used to be our economic strengths.

Couple this with what we now know is the state of our military given the investigation into the Fitzgerald collision and it would simply be a matter of time before one of those nations (cough-China-cough-cough!) blew us to bits.  Xi is laughing his ass off right now over in Beijing at the rank stupidity of the American public and political class which has bought into that which cannot occur without catastrophic outcomes as for the promised "good" outcomes to occur you must be able to violate the laws of physics.

I opined not long ago that Trump had no chance of a 2nd term.

I've changed my mind -- there's not a single Democrat who has serious intent of running in 2020 yet has not signed onto this bullcrap and the Republicans and Trump are going to take all of the above points and make said Democrats have their tonsils tickled from the bottom with each and every one of the above points -- and more.

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I'd like to suggest things that are illegal but I have more sense.

She, and anybody who signs onto this **** (or hides the consequences) needs to be held responsible.

It's BEYOND a ****ing embarrassment that she's an ELECTED representative, one of the LEADERS of this nation.

Nobody would believe this **** if it was fiction.

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Asimov wrote..
It's BEYOND a ****ing embarrassment that she's an ELECTED representative, one of the LEADERS of this nation.


Amen. It's beyond comprehension that the DemonRats are signing on to this nonsense, along with most of the MSM. One alleged poll states that 92% of D's, 64% of R's, and 81% of all registered voters support a Green New Deal. This poll was on Yale's website, so color me skeptical. http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/pub....

Since she has the reasoning powers of a 5-year-old it was no surprise that the first words out of Kotex's mouth during that recent hearing were, "Let's play a game."

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If the Returdlicans were smart they would just let this simmer until the first Presidential debate of 2020 and just lay it out for everyone then as you do in your ticker.

We all know they ain't that smart.

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When I first read the details of "The Green New Deal" I thought to myself, "this is economic suicide". In all of my life this has to be the most stupid ****ing deal I've ever seen.

This should be renamed, "The New Green Stupid ****ing Deal", because that's what it is...

And like I said before, I'm going to vote for that ****head, Trump.. At least Trump understands what kind of "green" really matters, viz., the color of money... And, as a bonus, Trump seems to trigger the **** out of the hard-line Marxists to the point that they reveal their true "colors" as the go bat-**** crazy.

I can only hope for a total frenzy to occur in which the Marxists tear each other's guts out until everyone is covered in red --- including Trump.
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More of these idiots are boarding the crazy train, they are not going to stop attempting to impose their will on you (LBGTQ, killing infants, transgender children, religious leaders having sex with children, it goes on and on) and everyone else. They are ****ing lunatics, and there are a lot of them.

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Ayn Rand's predictions coming to pass before our very eyes. If the "new green deal" passes I will be one of the "unwilling to work" cohorts.
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From the resolution itself, section 4 (H):
"guaranteeing a job with family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people of the United States."

That is the "unwilling to work" part. Also note, it doesn't say "citizens", but to all "people".
Of course the entire resolution is complete nonsense.
here is the link.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-cong....
Snowman
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Kindly note the list of 69 co-sponsors. A miracle if any of them survive the 2020 election. All the republicans would need to do is field a demented jellyfish to run against them.
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Asimov - "Nobody would believe this **** if it was fiction."

Because it is a lie it is more believable, in fiction you have to at least make sense.

Bodhi - "Since she has the reasoning powers of a 5-year-old "

Well apparently so do - "One alleged poll states that 92% of D's, 64% of R's, and 81% of all registered voters support a Green New Deal. "
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It's like a toxic cloud has descended on America and moron'd 81% of the people.
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One alleged poll states that 92% of D's, 64% of R's, and 81% of all registered voters support a Green New Deal.


Going up to random people on the street and asking them "do you support the new green deal" and I wouldn't be shocked at all by these numbers.

Those people DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. They're answering based on the politically correct "green" name.

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that's all ok, we are still getting paid right? right?
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Well your wrong on one point. Without diesel fuel we can't produce enough food to provide minimum caloric requirements for the existence of fattys. We would starve to about 10% of our current population. But it does solve our immigration problems. No one would even think of coming here.
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rendering the now-common practice of running a third shift for industrial purposes (when demand charges are lower) impossible due to lack of solar energy across America during that time.


Yeah, about that... I used to be involved in the growing of monocrystalline silicon, some of which was used for solar cells. These crystals need more than 24hrs to grow, with a continuous input of >100kw during the process (assuming a ~200mm diameter). You can grow shorter crystals, but the cost & energy/materials input per unit goes up pretty dramatically as a result. So either no more solar cells, or your cost goes up by a lot.

(edit). If you're talking about 300mm diameter (which is the basis for all modern semiconductor process technology), forget it altogether. 3 day minimum, with much higher input power. So you're limited to small diameter wafers. No more Intel, AMD.... you see where this is going.

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Punch: Just use a battery. Stupid negativity like that isn't going to get us moving forward and save us from world annihilation in 12 years!

Keep in mind, this, uhm... person... apparently BELIEVES that the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't do these things.

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I read some of this thing and it is totally illogical and absurd.

I would say they want us to go back to the horse and buggy but they hate animals for the methane they put out and there are not enough horses to go back to.

One of the obvious things is what will we do to deliver goods where they need to go? EV's can't take up that kind of slack and if you get rid of everything requiring fossil fuels how will the farmers plant, grow, and harvest the crops?

Everything we take for granted as a basic would disappear and people will die. The Green New Deal would create the Dystopian future you read about in science fiction.

It is beyond the pale of common sense and logic that the Democrat's, their presidential candidates, etc., would even consider this as a viable plan for the future. It is Treasonous.
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Treason? It's genocidal.

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Welcome to Year Zero.

I do have to wonder just how many of these lunatic politicians are bought and paid for by the Chinese. Throwing a few million bucks at them to destroy Western economies would be much cheaper than open warfare.
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jmfs99 - Of course it is illogical and absurd. I will be shocked if it gets passed on the first round, more than likely they will pull a couple pieces from within the bill and place them within other bills. Cuz, well you know that is what the tax payers want....They might not know they want it, but heck that is why we elect people like AOC, so they can figure out what we actually want.

Little by little it gets implemented and they change the name of it, to something Like Environmental Health Care, they add some 3500 pages to it, that no one can understand until after it is passed by congress. It doesn't quite fit legally so justice roberts changes a few words here and there and Presto, Bang'O , Bing'O we are all living in a socialistic paradise with Amazon bring all are wants and needs to our door.

We get to play Xbox all day, eat pizza and have our health care paid for by us, the tax payer.

It is a perfect circle, in a perfect system.

I cannot wait.

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Asimov: "Nobody would believe this **** if it was fiction."

That's why I've hardly bothered with fiction since I read "Atlas Shrugged" decades ago, which is a model for Venezuela and, unfortunately, is becoming so for us. Why read fiction when truth is so much more incredible?
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Some dreams do happen.

Your dream or someone elses
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Honestly I hope this passes. Maybe then enough people will be inconvenienced to the point that they will be pissed off and might get off their butts and do something about it. Otherwise will just enjoy the decline of America. It was fun while it lasted.

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Dig into the whole part about the "Deleted draft PDF" and that they tried to call it out as being fake, then someone found the meta data.. and the author of it.
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The Americans With No Abilities Act (ANAA)

Democratic Senators are considering introducing legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills and ambition.

Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society, said California Sen. Kamala Harris. We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.

In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63 percent).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.

Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?

As a non-abled person, I cant be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them, said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the Toyota plant in Georgetown, KY due to her inability to remember righty tighty, lefty loosey. This new law should be real good for people like me. Ill finally have job security. With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Said Sen. Dick Durbin, II: As a senator with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good salary for doing so.

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