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Curbyourrisk
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Incept: 2008-08-19

Farmingdale, NY
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I continue to wait for the big one, that cracks that piece of crap state off and allows it to float away....

I can keep hoping..

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Time is up.

I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no Santa Claus, the tooth fairy does not exist and American justice does not involve the courts.
Steelpiston71
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Alabama
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Cue up the US Map of the Blue voting districts that will continue to supply the Red voting districts food, water, natgas, electricity, waste water treatment, etc. Red Morons.

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"We have resolution authority under Frank/Dodd... How about we USE IT?" Karl Denninger, 10/07/10 on the Dylan Ratigan Show, MSNBC.
Eleua
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A True American Patriot!
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They are most definitely not going to seize guns with some agency that goes house to house. That would be flatly impossible, and everyone knows it.

They are going to use the IRS.

"Line 75: Do you own any firearms? If YES, fill out Schedule 38."

Schedule 38:

List all firearms that use ammunition with chemical propulsion. List by serial number, caliber, magazine capacity.

a) Take the number listed above and multiply by 500.

b) List all firearms that are semi-automatic. Multiply that number by 200.

c). List all handguns, even if listed in b. Multiply that number by 100.

d). List all rifles that fall under the Federal Firearms Act of 2022 definition of "assault rifle." Count this number, even if it was previously counted in above. Multiply that number by 500.

e). Add the numbers from a, b, c, and d above. This is your federal firearms tax.

f). Count how many rounds of ammunition that are listed under the FFA 2022 Table B. Divide by 10. This is your adjusted gross ammunition tax. If the amount of ammunition tax exceeds $100, multiply the amount over $100 by 5. Add both numbers. This is your net ammunition tax.

Failure to list firearms is a felony under federal law. Failure to pay firearms and ammunition tax is a felony under federal law.

US Citizens and legal permanent residents may opt out of firearms and ammunition taxes by surrendering their firearms for a one-time $100 tax credit per firearm.




The libs will say that this will allow sporting rifles (bolt action) and a nominal amount of ammunition, but will get the bad guns off the street.

Whites are law abiding and will pay the tax until they can't. they will then turn them in, because in addition to not wanting to be a racist with privilege, they won't want to be a felon and lose their jobs and right to vote (for what good that does). Of course, they will also have "implied consent" to have the cops search your home to verify that you only have a single bolt-action rifle, and do so any day or night without warrant.

That's how they are going to do it. They are not going to kick down doors until most have turned in their weapons. They may be crazy and evil, but they aint stupid.



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Hot civil war is now inevitable.
Tickerguy
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The day that shows up is the day you read my obituary.

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Dennisglover
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Gen wrote..
The day that shows up is the day you read my obituary.

Because the day that shows up is past the date my death warrant is already signed and in effect, sans trial or due process.

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TANSTAAFL
Tickerguy
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Yep. You can only kill or sentence me to death (or life) once. It is my sincere wish that I am never forced to demonstrate this FACT.

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Eleua
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The obit section is going to be the size of a phone book. Not only will it be the gun owners, but the pols that passed the law.

I've been thinking this over and over. There simply isn't any way we avoid a hot civil war in the next decade. The current trajectory is for hot civil war as the Socialists get an anaconda grip on all of us. Let's smoke a bowl and say that DJT can make good on his promises. Even if we get the wall, we still need to define the 14th properly.

Even with that...even IF we could get a 9-0 SCOTUS decision that the 14th has nothing to do with immigration and all those that are descendants of illegals are NOT citizens, and subject to deportation (quite frankly, the only option to save this country), they have guns as well and are not going to go quietly, since they believe their stolen goods are actually theirs.

No matter what direction we turn, or action we take, or inaction to sustain, the only question is a matter of when, rather than what. Even on the "when" question, we are talking a timeline of a decade.

We lost this back in the 1980s with the amnesty. That is RR's biggest f-up. He was promised they would be shooed out of the country, but it never happened. When Loretta Sanchez defeated Dornan in 1996, by less than 1000 votes, that should have been the wake up call. Orange County today has ZERO Republican members, and is the 6th largest county in the country.

Since then, the GOP has been with their heads up their asses, cowering in fear of both being called racist by the Left and anti-business by their doners.

The way out of the coming civil war was decades ago. Back in the 1850s, civil war was inevitable. The seeds of it were sewn prior to the ratification of the Constitution. The only thing the various compromises did was kick the can until it couldn't be kicked any longer.

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Hot civil war is now inevitable.
Tickerguy
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Yep.

That sucks, but sadly, I believe you will be proved correct.

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Aztrader
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Scottsdale, AZ
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When 2020 gets here, the country will be so much on edge that it will explode. The left is literally insane because they lost 2 years of power and want it back. The Constitution means absolutely nothing to them as many leftist states have proven. It's uncanny how they keep testing the waters to see how far they can push people.
If Trump declares an emergency and the left moves to stop him from building the wall, then the end result will be interesting. Will the people back the President or the leftists? The first big test......
Wa9jml
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Incept: 2017-04-29

DeKalb, Illinois
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When I saw that first Red/Blue map in USA Today back in 2000, I realized then that this country was starting to approach division on a scale that had not been the case since the 1850s. Incidentally, this was the first time since the French Revolution, that Red was linked to the more conservative element in society.

A sort of mutual hatred is driving this division into opposing factions. It greatly resembles the Town vs. Gown battles that I am very familiar with, from living in a university town.

I don't think it will make it to 2020 at this point. When Justice [sic] Ginsburg goes to her Eternal Reward, which I believe is rather imminent, things are going to explode. Good luck on keeping the country together when that dung hits the fan!

The only thing keeping this country together now, are entitlements. People want their free stuff, even many so-called Conservatives. Disrupt those, and it will be Katie bar the door.

This country has long been essentially ungovernable. Representation even at the local level is a farce, and consent of the governed is pretty minimal even at the local level. Most states are too diverse to be governed effectively, and it is even worse at the federal level. I really don't expect the country to hold together much longer. There is simply too much hatred.
Aztrader
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The sad thing is that the left's hatred is manufactured by the media. They need massive division to break up the solidarity of our country. Those of us with brains that use logic and common sense in our lives can't understand this hatred. It's almost like they were put into a machine and programmed. They have no facts to base their anger on besides what the media keeps feeding them. There's nothing more dangerous then someone that blindly follows someone without knowing the reason. They are programmed to believe that their side is right no matter what the facts say. I have heard interviews with Antifa and they believe they are the good guys. If that isn't insane, what is? This easily could mean substantial violence against the right is coming soon. Be prepared.....
Analog
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Incept: 2010-12-29

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Quote:
Most states are too diverse to be governed effectively, and it is even worse at the federal level.


yep that's the goal.
Why else would Obama send tens of thousands of Somalis to places like Minneapolis, Minnesota and Garden City, Kansas ?

a.

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Wa9jml
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Incept: 2017-04-29

DeKalb, Illinois
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The hatred is based upon the Progressives thinking that they are above the benighted Deplorables. This has been a keynote of the Progressive Movement since at least the 1890s. This rather strange attitude goes back at least as far as Herbert Croly, and Woodrow Wilson. The Progressives have always considered themselves to be the ones to rule, because they alone possessed the Expertise. Their first target were the Irish politicians, represented by George Washington Plunkett. The Irish had unbeatable political skills, but their Achilles Heel was their lack of formal education. Hence "merit based Civil Service Reform" relying on formal education and written examinations.

This has resulted in government of the lawyers, by the lawyers, and for the lawyers. They supposedly know the laws and regulations, and as Max Weber pointed out years ago, they are able to hoodwink any politicians because the bureaucrats are experts and the politicians are mere dilettantes.

This hatred of normal Americans is matched by the normal Americans' hatred of experts and globalists. Nobody who is rational is going to like being looked down upon. Angelo Codevilla wrote about this in his recent essays describing our ongoing revolution. I also believe that he is overly optimistic.

What is galloping up to us is going to be extremely unpleasant.
Magus
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Wa9jml - The red/blue used to be reversed but the media switched that in 2000 to avoid imagery of Dems being thought of as communist/socialists. Of course, they said it was because "red" and "republican" both begin with R.

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Dcsleeper
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Northern VA
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> The red/blue used to be reversed but the media switched that in 2000 to avoid imagery of Dems being thought of as communist/socialists. Of course, they said it was because "red" and "republican" both begin with R.
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I knew it! Thanks!
Ee4fire
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Incept: 2011-03-24

Washington, DC
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The article below is from a different time although not that long ago.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.c....

I grew up not far from this area in MD in the '60's and '70's. Now it is a bunch of liberal progressives and if these women did it today they would be in jail and lambasted in the local media not praised. Now Viers Mill Village is mostly immigrants legal and illegal, with some MS -13 mixed in.

Somewhere we lost our way in the basic concepts of true freedom and liberty. Now too many are looking to the false idol of gov't for security and their needs.


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(Politicians), 536 commoditized temple monkeys pawing through the ruins of America in search of bribes. (The District of Corruption) works like a vending machine. You put coins in the slot, select your law, and the desired legislation slides out." Fred Reed. Some editting by me.


Tinman
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@Ee4fire

"Veirs Mill and Randolph Road"

Oh ****. I never heard about that. I'm about 500 meters from the old theater now Rodmans beer depot (for me). It was the last porn theater in Monkey County. Straight up on being mostly illegal but not much MS-13. Back n 06 it was bad but now it's just working poor.
Emg
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Incept: 2012-11-20

Canada
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"It's almost like they were put into a machine and programmed."

They were. The machine is called 'a government school'. And, particularly in the last couple decades, a 'university' or 'college'.

The left have a vast industry for taking kids and programming them into left-wing NPCs. And far too many on the right keep sending their kids into that industry, where they'll be turned into mindless leftists.
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