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2018-10-27 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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So we have our nutjob....

The man authorities allege waged a week-long reign of terror against prominent Democrats by sending crude bombs through the mail is reportedly a former stripper and bodybuilder who attended pro-Trump rallies — often sporting a red MAGA cap — and posted partisan rants online.

And... if you keep reading, he has a history of bomb threats (the proper word for a threat without an actual explosive device is hoax, by the way.)

And there's this, because the media just has to keep the lie alive.

The potentially explosive devices were intercepted in New York, Washington, D.C., Florida, Delaware and California.

Potentially eh?

Uh, no.

The arrestee himself has said they were hoax devices.  I believe it from what I've seen and the authorities have confirmed it despite trying not to.  They've confirmed it by how they have acted; they have not acted as one would act if it was a real bomb.  Specifically nobody in their right mind sits around with a real explosive device that might go "boom" at any time and takes pictures of it while it sits on an ordinary office table.  Uh, no.

He also seems to like to steal (both of the grand theft and misdemeanor type), seems to have a history with roid-rage drugs and has been charged with ripping off merchants with fraudulent return schemes.

Sounds like an upstanding member of the community.

They won't get him with "mailing an explosive" unless, of course, there was an explosive and from the evidence -- there was no explosive.

Next, that photo of him looks a bit...... light.  I wonder why....

Third, how did all of those devices get out of the post office without a tracking strip (on the bottom; they add it if you don't use machined postage that is barcoded) or hand-canceled stamps.  Never mind that sort of package is supposed to be handed to someone, AND the lack of proper postage (irregular/non-machinable gets surcharged.)  How did those all not get kicked back immediately at the original point.  Then there's the report that CNN's was hand-couriered into the building.  None of this adds up.

But if he was involved (no matter how) he's still going up the river for 20+, and damn well should.  You don't need a real bomb to make a terrorist threat -- a fake one does just as well for the threat part.  It's the blowing up part that need a real explosive for, and it appears this guy had enough screws missing that he may well have been incapable of mustering up something other than a cheap mock-up that looks like something out of a Hollyweird casting closet.

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A part Seminole indian who used to work as a stripper?

You can't make this **** up. I'm so glad we got Donald instead of Jeb, because Jeb would never inspire a **** show like this one.

I can't wait to see what happens if the Dirty Dems retake the House. The back-and-forth insults and accusations will be epic, and so entertaining. The **** show will motivate more bombers and gunners, I'm sure.

And if Florida gets Gillum's 10in up its ass, Trump's "adopted state" is then put in jeopardy for his 2020 Keep America Great reelection campaign. So the political fireworks in Florida shall be fun to watch, too --- from a distance, of course. Who knows how many more Siminoles will actually go on the warpath.

Moreover, the equity markets are looking a little sick right now, and so does a market leader, AMZN. That's a red flag, if ever there was one. And what about that butt-ugly looking bond market?

The commercial BBB rated paper out there is somewhere north of two trillion in nominal value. That really looks sick to me. I think when Humpty Dumpty crashes down on the pavement his guts are going to splatter all across this great land from sea to shining sea. And all of those nasty smelling BBB commercial bonds in Humpty's guts are going to quickly turn to junk as they rain down on the lenders....

Well, at least Trump can blame the Fed for the next credit crisis..

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He didn't deliver them all by hand. That's clear. Did USPS screw up all these times?

Something smells like last week's fish...
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It's kind of sad when the authorities keep changing their story and speaking off the top of their heads so it paints them in a corner in a day or two.
This is the kind of amateur hour lying you expect from stupid people. Can't Federal agencies at least lie to me better?
I suspect they said - Oh we have this nutbar we have to keep track of all the time in Florida and he is visible enough the public knows him and it'll make a totally believable story. That is if they didn't supply him props in the first place.
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Cobra - Did they ALLOW them to be delivered to boost the narrative?
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This story seems incomplete. Here's an interesting thread on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/_ImperatorRex_/statu....

Quotes:
"Here's the indictment. It is very weak and seems rushed, IMO."

"If I was his lawyer, I'd be advising him to plead not guilty. The affiant FBI agent evidence against him relies on

#1 - a 'conversation' with someone at Quantico about:

- a 'probable' 'latent' fingerprint
- a 'possible' DNA mark

and/.."

"#2 - a conversation with someone who works in the postal service that 5 of the 14 packages were 'routed' through the Opa Locka mail facility.

There's still ZERO evidence about HOW they were 'routed' via the facility.

FIVE potential pipe bombs, between 18-20 October. WTF?

" Another thing.

There are NINE other packages, that have been sent all over America.

How? Was loony tunes Sayoc driving his bizarre van feverishly all over the country?

It makes NO sense.

Unless it makes total sense."

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This nut bag sent the packages, he already confessed. The problem with this story is that they let the packages be delivered, and it should be obvious to everyone why. There is no doubt we would not have heard about this story if it had been a leftist. Nut bags do stupid things all the time, the problem is the FBI picks and chooses what gets through.

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They knew they were inert and hand carried them

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That is if they didn't supply him props in the first place.


Based on past history, isn't that SOP for the FBI: Find some marginally intelligent individual, incite them to act, give them the "tools" and then bust them so they can claim to be all that is standing between us and chaos? In this case they may have upped their game to allow the known inert devices to be delivered so they can advance their own political agenda.

My imagination probably can't get tinfoil enough to cover what really goes on these days. We live in a bizarro world.

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So let me understand, they can track this guy 5 ways to Sunday. Within 7 days find everything he mailed, get some DNA and fingerprints. Locate his Trump sticker van and put out photos of these "Devices." and find every social media and twitter page (all of which have conflicting info..)

Yet a massacre in Vegas, STILL goes unsolved.

Not BUYING IT.. NOT BUYING ANY OF THIS!.
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Well Lazer there are only so many days till the election....

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They didn't scrub this guy's social media either, which they usually do. As well Twitter immediately promoted the MAGAbomber hashtag. The big story however, is the Post Office allowed 13+ packages to be delivered against policy AND with incorrect postage(a package that size is about $7 to mail, not 6 stamps, check USPS.com if you don't believe me)

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Thelazer - He had previous arrests, so his finger prints would be on file and also his DNA. Putting the devises in the mail automatically makes it federal.

Throw on top multiple high profile targets, CNN being one of them (I sure hope Don Lemon is doing oky doke)

Yea the time frame on his arrest makes good sense.

The rest of it, how it stands currently...Not so much.

Djm - How long do you really think he will survive if he pleads not guilty.

Besides, people like him are on a mission and want the world to know the "good" they are doing.

Fortunately nobody got hurt, both sides will be able to spin this pile of **** in a way to fertilize the fields their flocks eat from and life will be grand.
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Flyanddive - "The big story however, is the Post Office allowed 13+ packages to be delivered against policy AND with incorrect postage"

Yup, one package I could get my head around one, possibly even two, 13 out of the known 13 got through, this guy should have bought a Mega Billions ticket, holding a 10 fool steel pole, while standing in an alligator infested swamp during a lightning storm.

But of course that little fact will see very little light shown upon it, except for The Market Ticker.

But my biggest concern is What does Don Lemon think I should be doing about this?
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If he has felony convictions, how can he be a 'registered' any party given he can't vote?

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I am not buying the official story line. And I do not believe in coincidences any longer.

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Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time...
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We are regularly briefed that anything that weighs over 13 ounces that does not have a round date cancellation, meaning it came through the front door accepted by a lobby clerk, is either sent back to the return address with an explanation of how to do it correctly or it is tagged for ground transport, NO planes.

It appears to me the Postal employees screwed up big time. Everywhere. Me, 973 days to go!
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No they didn't

More later.

Maybe tomorrow if I feel like it.

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I'm on grand jury now and for the next year. It would be interesting if this case came up. Doubtful.

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As former federal proseuctor Andrew McCarthy noted, if the mailed IED devices were functionally explosive they would fall under the category weapons of mass destruction [defined here by U.S. code] and the indictment would include 18 US Code 2332a [SEE HERE] The absence of this charge infers the devices were not functionally explosive.

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NBC News: Under pre-Miranda (public safety exemption) questioning Cesar Sayoc told federal investigators he didn't do it and would not say how many packages he sent.

Post-Miranda he requested a lawyer and refused to talk.

-Reported by @jonathan4ny
4:49 PM - Oct 26, 2018
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Little doubt in my mind that officials at the FBI and USPS knew what was occurring and used this incident around election time for poltical purposes.

They knew the bomb at CNN were part of the hoaxes for weeks or days. That is why they were so non-chalant the handling for photo ops.

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