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Benthere
Posts: 87
Incept: 2018-06-16

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Thanks KD, leverage is anathema to me and it doesn't pop into my brain immediately as a high finance driver. Article makes some sense now, someone should write a book on it haha.

regarding our snowflake newbie, shame on him for excluding gals in your community, kamala would be aghast.
Keenan
Posts: 286
Incept: 2013-01-11

Western PA
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Another swoon into the late afternoon. As we head to the last hour of trading DJIA down 550+ and NAZ off 100
Tsherry
Posts: 1409
Incept: 2008-12-09

Spokane WA
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Seems like people are only focused on making a buck, instead of making sure they're not heading toward ambient temperature due to factors well within their control.


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Themortgagedude
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Incept: 2007-12-17

saint louis
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I got some trading advice for ya. I'd load up on SHLD puts. But then again I might be late. Makes up for being early on stuff in 2008 though. :)

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Drifter
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Incept: 2016-02-11

Pacific Northwest
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Last week I was watching a BBC2 documentary on the 1929 crash. If you closed your eyes so you didn't see the old black and white footage, one might think it was current events.

A person is smart. People are dumb. Leverage in the end makes fools of us all.
Azengrcat
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Many GEs lurking out there.
Greenrebellion
Posts: 506
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Los Angeles
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I'm still not on board with this theme that the end is near. Will the standard of living decline materially in the coming decades in the USA, most definitely. Will a recession occur? Sure A severe stock market decline? Sure...those are both a dime a dozen in this era of bubble inflating.

But people have been calling for the end of the world for millenia. The Titanic didn't sink in a minute and this country is not going to blow up in a year. But if I am wrong and it all goes to **** and I have to meet my maker, I'm at peace with that too.

Just my opinion and its worth exactly what you paid for it.

Jazen
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****cago
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I bought the dip and the, dip won.
I bought the dip and the
Dip won....
Beautiful day, I hope that kuttle delicate snowflake Ronny the big baby got smoked buyin the dip today. Better luck tomorrow.....

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Jazen
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****cago
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Margin call gentlemen

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I hate our Government, but I still love America.
Ktrosper
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ft collins co
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and I won't be back.

 

BLAMO!
Nope, you won't be!


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The unexamined life is not worth living.-Socrates
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle
Liberty exists now in the spaces government has not yet chosen to occupy.-Doc Zero
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Mightydog
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Ahhh, the smell of fresh blood. I played a small role with everyone here back in 2007 and we had a pretty damned good time. But, I got out of the markets since 08 when the fraud was inescapably obvious and have stayed out. Learned a whole ****load about the accurate history of our country and why all this rampant fraud is supported. Hasn't been an easy education really... But oh how I missed the drama of Genesis' epic rants and the follow ups.

VIX still "low" relative to 07. Who's being naughty writing uncovered put contracts? Anyone?? LOL!!

Well, maybe I'll get back in the markets to play this. We'll see. #ForcedReset

To all the market loyalists, happy trading!!
Click
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Incept: 2017-06-26

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I'm still happily sitting on the bench --- watching, waiting and relaxing.

It didn't escape my notice that Greece, Spain, Portugal and Italy all have rising bond rates today. The Shanghai index went down, again, and is down over -20% YTD. Euroland's major indices are all doing poorly YTD. Currency problems in Argentina, Turkey, India and other countries don't inspire too much confidence in the global outlook. Australia is having issues with its bubble in real estate. There's more, of course. Much more. But the bottom line is the U.S.A. is the only real major country that has markets, currency, credit and energy production that has held up.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. For example, will the Fed back off and start cooing like a dove? Will China and the U.S. finally come to some kind of face-saving agreement? Will the GOP keep the House and Senate?

The only thing I'm buying right now is a few more guns and some ammunition. Guns, magazines and ammunition can be purchased on sale for a reasonable price. I'm not buying too much, because if the economy crashes the pawn shops will be full and cash will be king.

Sitting on the bench with a position of U.S. dollars has been the best bet for me, personally, beginning last March when I started scaling out. "Sell in May and go away" seemed like the right play. Shorting bonds would have been OK, but the Fed can start cooing and squeeze shorts real hard and real fast... And if I had to bet, I'd bet on the Fed stepping in... If not, Trump will insist.

Bigmak
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Incept: 2011-05-22

Waynesboro, VA
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Money men have been doing unprecedented things for a long time. I suspect we will now have unprecedented problems for a long time.
Idiom
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Incept: 2015-02-20

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New Zealand had a 5.4% debt to gdp ratio in 2008. We ballooned it to smooth the crash.

We are down 22.4% at the moment running a bit of a surplus.

I am mildly concerned we won't have the balance sheet to ride this out.

The rest of y'all are ****ed. God help you.
Riverrat10k
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On a rock in the river
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Made a decent amount of money for myself and a buttload of money for my clients buying regional banks in the late '90's in the consolidation frenzy.

Made a decent amount of money for myself buying puts in the lead-in to the financial crash of '07.

Only bank stock I got ****ed on in that period was WellscorruptFargo, and found out later I was against Warren dickhead Buffett buying the stock!

Pop always said "Don't fight the tape". Little did I know that WB was painting it!

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Riverrat10k
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On a rock in the river
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Hiya zappafan.
Of course, you are correct.
How can one "invest" when fundamentals mean nothing? In a "market" driven by interest rates and momentum.
Meant to add above that I have been out for a few years. Investing in real estate, some pm's, ammo, and learning to distill/brew.
Gotta have something people will trade for!

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A motion to adjourn and go fishing is always in order.
--me channeling Heinlein
Click
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"The rest of y'all are ****ed. God help you".

If I had to pick a place to live outside of the U.S., New Zealand USED to BE on the short list. It's a stunningly beautiful country with a wonderfully diverse climate and abundant natural resources including thousands of hectares of farm and ranch land.

NZ is not without problems, however, chief of which is Jacinda Ardern --- a Marxist if there ever was one. In fact, New Zealand is infested with collectivists. Never underestimate how fast the collectivism can ruin everything.

I actually have a good friend who is a Kiwi, and he's moving back to Bangkok ( the place where I first met him). He's moving back to Bangkok, because of the high cost of living in NZ, immigration problems and a growing NZ police state. "Housing is in a bubble, and the Marxists in NZ are building a police state", he said, "and if you don't hand over the passwords to your cell phone, tablet and/or laptop upon government request at the airport (no search warrant needed) you will be fined $5000 and sent on your way back out of the country"....

No thanks, you can keep New Zealand. And I'll keep my 50 cal... I think what Kiwis have yet to learn the hard way is that when you get ****ed up the ass by Marxists they don't even have the common courtesy to give you a reach-around. My ass might get swore from Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh, but at least they will give my gun a good Second Amendment reach-around.

When the global economy collapses, it'll be interesting to see how NZ export ( huge) and services(huge 61%) economy fares... In my opinion, survival in post collapse NZ shall be determined by how well an individual can tap into the local economy while still remaining a gray man.

Finally, NZ has no means of defending itself. What happens if the U.S. can't or won't come to your rescue? China ****s really hard, so keep the lube handy just in case.
Mangymutt
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Incept: 2015-05-03

Vancouver WA
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Riverrat - If I can offer some insight on distilling/brewing. Learn to brew first, it does not have to be a good beer you are going for. None of it is that difficult, but learning to make a decent mash first can/will assist in distilling.

Make sure everything is clean, clean, clean.

Be patient.

Small batches are good.

Don't tell ANYONE! Not because you are making poison, but because the government really does not want people to realize distilling is not overly difficult and once you learn to distill you have something tradable and the government wants to tax it.

Good luck!
Ckaminski
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and the government wants to tax it.


I would happily pay the tax if they'd let me distill. Give something reasonable, like 10-20 gallons untaxed a year, like beer.

But traditional distilling, with fire, in the presence of alcohol vapors could have been catastrophic in homes. Brewing beer isn't anything close to the sort.

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Don't tell ANYONE!


This applies to so much these days...
Vernonb
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Incept: 2009-06-03

East of Sheol
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Looks like Sears is on its last breath too. How man pensions are going to get hit by that one? Restructured debt in this financial environment?




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Vernonb
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But traditional distilling, with fire, in the presence of alcohol vapors could have been catastrophic in homes. Brewing beer isn't anything close to the sort.


Save the flames for the mash. Traditional distilling... pffftt. So many safer ways to distill from thermo-electric mantles to building hot oil/water recirculating heat exchangers. No need to be putting all that much heat out into the environment or creating an ignition source. Save the smoke to drive off the the 'skeeters' and attract the 'revenuers'. -lol

Distillation can also be done by pressure reduction to lower heat requirements. Cold distillations don't run risk of burning something up.

All that free smoke may just kick up the polyaromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) content of your elixir too.

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Drifter
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Pacific Northwest
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If you want proof we are headed for another detonation, here ya go:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/12/thousand....

Nobody has learned anything. Nobody has gone to prison. The 'bezzle continues apace.

Jump you ****ers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yge311sF....

Acebarefoot
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Incept: 2009-05-20

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Oh yeah, that is definitely a sign of where we are again!
Quik49
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Sushi a bit stinky tonight....

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