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Lenguado
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Did a family vacation back in 2016 out west to Yellowstone and Glacier. We read all the warnings about being careful around the geysers and wildlife, and thought to ourselves - 'What idiot would play around with those, and disregard the danger.' But then we saw folks doing EXACTLY what they are warned NOT to do. I even called some of them out on it - especially around the geysers and protected areas. Got shot some really NASTY looks at that . . . But I didn't care - though the wife and girls all did the, "Daaaaaaaad...." thing.

Anyway, at one of the gift shops around Yellowstone I stumbled on the book, "Death in Yellowstone", and just had to buy it.
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/death-i....

It essentially details pretty much every death in Yellowstone since it opened as a National Park that the author was able to document. "The chilling tome that launched an entire genre of books about the often gruesome but always tragic ways people have died in our national parks, this updated edition of the classic includes calamities in Yellowstone from the past sixteen years, including the infamous grizzly bear attacks in the summer of 2011 as well as a fatal hot springs accident in 2000."

Reading the book, I just kept shaking my head thinking, "WHAT IDIOTS!" And would read the really gruesome ones to the family. And then, after we got back, we would see a couple - few more deaths every year in the news.

At Glacier, we decided to do the Day Hike up to Iceberg Lake. If I remember correctly it is about a 5 mile round trip. But WHAT A VIEW!!! Well worth the trip. Anyway, I was in the lead of the family and we were strung out a bit. As I rounded the corner into a fairly open field - I think it was pretty much here - (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Iceber.... smack in the middle of the trail was a huge bull moose! He was about 100 feet away, and I stopped as soon as I saw him. Our youngest daughter came up and started asking, Why did I stop? Once she saw him, she was amazed at how big he was. Since Mrs Lenguado was lagging a bit behind with our oldest daughter, a few folks had gotten in between us on the trail.

I held my hand up to stop them and pointed to the moose. And instead of hanging out with us a safe distance away to wait for the moose to slowly move off the path (eating Huckleberries along the way) and up into the hills, they scooted past and ran right up to the moose to get pics and selfies. F*^#*ing idiots! I told my daughter to get her phone out and be ready to start recording video since I was pretty sure that we were going to watch a YouTube moment!

Luckily for them, the moose was more interested in the berries than them - though he did turn his head and looked right at them. It's not like they would have had to wait long. It only took about 5 minutes for the moose to move up the hill a safe distance away. But I certainly would have enjoyed watching those idiots be dispatched by the moose!




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I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics"
they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone!
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Lenguado
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Jcneall,
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I don't thinks she's stupid. She's a product of our culture

BS. She's STOOPID. Period.

And nature actually nearly did "fix stupid" this time!

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I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics"
they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone!
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Brandon: As practical as wheel guns are, you may want to consider its taller brother (if the longer cartridge will chamber). Even with a 158 grain bullet, its big brother really needs a ~20" barrel to allow it to stretch its legs, i.e. a lever; the cartidge gains ~45 fps velocity per extra inch over a 6" revolver. BTW, even out of a lever when its ballistics are in the .30-.30 range, it's limited to game the size of whitetails (which are usually stationary, like shooting paper) within 100 yds. Further, few people can place their shots on a charging target in a 6" diameter, meaning your odds are better on any critter larger than ~120 lbs. with a higher velocity round.

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Back in the day I was deer hunting and going through some think brush and ran damn near face to face with a bull moose...stopped in my tracks and backed out slowly....though armed there was no way I was hanging around....they move fast and dont care about brush or small trees.... Just this morning out my back yard a doe gave birth to junior...she was cleaning him off when another deer came up to take a look...momma rammed him in a split second to GTF away.... here's a grainy pic of the scene...you can barely see junior in the grass
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Lenguado
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Working around farm livestock can get you injured or killed even if you have lots of experience.

Waaayyy back when, when my - at the time fiance - had a couple horses at the stables at Vandenberg AFB, I was out at her assigned stable doing some repair work on it. The stables were pretty much old WWII tank/vehicle maintenance sheds that they had turned into stables.

Anyway, there weren't many folks out there at that time of day. Me, a lady in the large arena who was long line exercising her horse, and a bunch of drunks at the clubhouse. So about half an hour into doing the work, not paying much attention to the arena - I hear this tremendous crack! I kind of look up in the direction it came from and don't see much of anything unusual. Then I noticed that the horse was standing there, with the long line still attached to it's halter - but no woman.

I stood up and see a lump of clothing balled up on the ground about 15 feet away from the horse. "Awwww Holy Crap!" So the lady was not knocked out - and apparently she was watching me because once she could speak again (about 3 months later . . . . ) she told me that as she watched me jump the railing, I never touched the top rail - I just flew over the fence! Not sure that is true or not - but I was certainly hopped up on adrenaline by the time I got to that railing.

I get to her, and realize that she is in serious danger. Took a hoof right in the mouth. Shattered her lower jaw, and she was missing pretty much all her front teeth - BLOOD EVERYWHERE. I swept her mouth and cleared out a bunch of teeth (collected them in my fist), made sure she wasn't going to choke on her tongue and that she was breathing fine. Right about then, the future Mrs Lenguado drives up and starts shouting about what was going on.

I yelled to her to go to the clubhouse and call 911, and then started shouting to the drunks that there was an accident and to bring some blankets since she was going into shock at that point.

So about 5 or 6 months later, once she had gone through having her jaw rewired together and gone through the physical therapy of having her jaw & mouth rebuilt, they had a surprise party for me at the clubhouse. Gave me this great big gorgeous custom silver buckle for taking care of her and possibly saving her life!

So yeah, what Oliver said!

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I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics"
they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone!
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Peterm99
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Oliver1655 wrote..
. . . farm livestock can get you injured or killed even if you have lots of experience.
That's for sure. And that's the case even if they are not being belligerent or just ornery - often they are just curious.

The driveway from my house to the road traverses one of my pastures with generally very docile cattle (all cows/calves - no bulls). It is imperative to be extremely careful getting out of the car or truck to open and close the gates as they occasionally approach just to see what I'm up to. The young calves can get spooked just by a squirrel or ground hog running around (and sometimes for no apparent reason at all) and momma doesn't care that there's a person (or a truck) nearby as she heads over to protect her calf. Having a half ton or more of black angus beef bearing down on you is not a particularly pleasant experience. And, since cows will often try to help each other out when they sense something is wrong, sometimes it's several tons of beef lumbering in your direction. Very exciting, but NOT in a "fun" sense.

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A couple years ago, I was leading a motorcycle ride in our local area through the Canaveral Natl Park. There is a spur off the main road through that goes through a kind of nature drive that I decided to take the group down. We get about half way along that road - when out in front of me I see something laying across the road. All the way across.

At first, I think that a tree had fallen across the road - but that didn't make sense since there really weren't any tall trees close to the road.

As we get closer, I start slowing - a LOT! And then I realize that it is a GATOR just sitting there across the road. A HUGE gator! It's nose was sitting over one edge of the road and it's tail was hanging a couple feet over the other edge of the road. And this is a two lane road!

We had stopped about 50' away from him on the road, and once everyone had come up behind me and stopped behind and beside me, there wasn't really any way to turn around. The plan was that if it turned towards us to keep the bikes between it and us! One of the guys got off his bike to take a photo if this massive gator, but it moved off into the scrub before he could get his phone out. We moved along right quick after that!

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I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics"
they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone!
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Rufust445
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Some years ago there was a documentary on PBS about Yellowstone Park. There was film from the early days when the first road was opened to the public, c1930. People dressed in their Sunday finest were getting out of their cars and feeding black bears out of their hands like they were pet dogs.

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Yes, even here on the Coast, We have our fair share of "Natural" hazards. Sharks/Snakes, Black bears & Gators.. Have this Lake nearby, has signs posted EVERYWHERE **DO NOT SWIM** & Do not FEED the Gators..
City had the "5K Run" around the Lake one year..
ONLY one ever had, It came to a FULL STOP, at least a 10 footer Laying in the middle of road/path Sleeping, warm road + Spring= Napping gator..
I managed to have a VERY LONG Object, I poked Him until I woke'em up, (He wasn't to happy), got Him to move off the road..
You actually wouldn't believe How fast THEY CAN move..
I WALK Genesis about round they same area(s).. I got a picture of this "youngin" He was 7 footer.. Would come up to the same spot every morning sunning himself..


Then We had the guy one year/summer, Couple years back.. running from the Cops.. Jumped into greenfield Lake, (at night about 2AM).. He was, "cough cough" never heard from again..
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Lobo
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"Attack" my ass. That makes it sound like an enraged predator's charge.

One thing about bison is that they look slow and ponderous, but they go from zero to 60 in a heartbeat. I've seen it from inside a vehicle with a 12 foot chain link fence between the truck and the bison and it still scared the **** out of me.

A couple of years ago there were some tourists in the Black Hills that got out of their vehicle and stood in front of a herd of bison that were moving through. The herd walked around them until one of the bison just hooked it's head around and gored one of the tourists and calmly walked on.

I've also seen video of people feeding the bears in Yellowstone through a partially open car window. They stopped feeding it so the bear hooked his claws over the window edge and pulled. Good-bye window.

There is stupid and then there's damn stupid.

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people would ask us why we wore boots, heavy clothes, etc. forgetting about the biting insects for a moment, one needed protection from things like copperheads. nasty little devils would hide in a small pile of debris right in your path. rat shot had its uses.

love it when i see the city folk out in the parks with short shorts, tank tops, no socks and sneakers. perfect for catching Lyme disease, even stupid trail guides would wear shorts with their work boots and brag about being covered in ticks after working the trail.

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Radiosity
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Smartphone (the most oxymoronic name ever) are literally Darwin Devices. To take a selfie with an animal in the background you naturally have to turn your back on them... big mistake. Countries like Germany are now installing ground level traffic lights and warnings because so many people walk around with their faces buried in their phones... shortly before being buried under the wheels of a train. And let's not even mention the sheer number of idiots texting while driving.
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Farm kid. Raised pigs, cattle, geese, and a lot of other animals.

Bison are wild cattle. The tame ones can kill you with out realizing it.

One time I had a PhD student tell me "If you take out the Buffalo (Bison) matriarch, the herd will just stand there in confusion!"

I pointed out that a confused herd of one ton buffalo means you run the risk of being a muddy red smear on the prairie. I raised cattle. I've work with bison. "Confused Bison" is not a term you want to hear. That means they are likely to pick a direction and RUN. If you are in the way, best of luck!

And don't get me started on the people who like cougars, wolves, etc. There is a reason there was a bounty on them.
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Regarding gators:
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You actually wouldn't believe How fast THEY CAN move..


Being a dumb-ass northerner, you would have laughed at my face the minute I found out gators can climb fences... I nearly **** myself - but I decided in that moment to never underestimate anything that lives and breathes on this planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qp_bUYP....

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I'm all for letting nature take it's course. Let 'em die.

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