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2018-03-12 17:45 by Karl Denninger
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BlackBerry Finally Cuts The Crap
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It's about damn time....

BlackBerry Messenger was the iMessage of the late 2000s, especially since it was initially exclusive to the company's own hardware. BBM expanded to iOS and Android in 2013, but it has become mostly irrelevant thanks to competitors like WhatsApp and iMessage. BlackBerry is now suing Facebook and its subsidiaries (including WhatsApp and Instagram), alleging that Facebook is violating numerous BBM patents.

Well, yes.

BBM has a number of features that were unique, apparently patented and then wantonly copied.  The three-state message status is the most-obvious and iconic -- when you send a BBM message you get a checkmark, when the recipient has had it delivered to them you get a "D" (Delivered) and when it has been actually seen you get an "R" (Read).

SMS messages have the ability to return an "actually sent" flag but not what amounts to a read receipt.  Facebook blatantly ripped this off as have others; indeed those who have followed the development of things like WhatsApp have noted the blatant nature of the copying.

Facebook of course "pushed back" on this claiming BlackBerry was trying to "tax them."  Well, uh, not really.  A tax is imposed by a government.  Patents are the limited-time exclusivity granted to people to provide an incentive to invent things.  If you steal something you don't own then you're not being "taxed" when caught!

May Zuckerpig's Frankenstein get a few of its teeth pulled.

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EZ answer for Zuckerpig would be to write a check for Blackberry and buy them.

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The usual path is to contact the patent owner and buy a license for the invention. If you are not a direct competitor, the patent owner is usually reasonable. They really sharpen their pencils if you are a direct competitor. And the lawyers start baying at the moon and slavering when they hear the word infringement.

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Apparently BlackBerry attempted to negotiate a license and Facebook told them repeatedly to pound sand.

Thus...... here it comes -- good, long and hard!

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If Blackberry actually believes it has legitimate patent(s) that has/have been seriously infringed, it seems very strange to me that they have waited until now (since they are now little more than an "also ran" in what used to be their primary business) to try to protect its patents via the so-called "legal system".

Could this be merely a shake-down attempt, rather than something that they expect to win at trial? Other than that, what might reasonably explain such an extremely long delay before actually filing suit?

EDITED TO ADD: When I posted this, Karl's comment that they had been previously trying to negotiate licensing and had been rebuffed had not yet become visible to me.

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I wonder if BB is just after settlement money, here, or are they going to go for the full Monte, full jury damages award with penalties?
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I disagree that blackberry waited too long. One the valuable things about a patent is if somebody doesnt want to play ball then you can sue the******out of them when that somebody gets very rich selling your stolen intellectual property. Its an incentive for big companies to buy/license patents early in the product life cycle to prevent getting raped on the backend. Is Google still paying Microsoft royalties for Android?
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