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Goforbroke
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Unless and until there are actual consequences for peoples' actions, they will continue and continue to get worse.

It's more than time to start holding people accountable for their actions.

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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our Light, and not our Darkness, that most frightens us. -- Marianne Williamson
Bodhi
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Incept: 2008-02-23

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Can you explain how this caller ID spoofing is happening ?


It's quite trivial to spoof caller ID these days. My small business phone system is SIP compatible and I have had direct SIP trunks for about 3 years. I can program each extension in my system to send out any number I want to, although I only send my main number. When the number is received by the called party the receiver's dialtone provider does a name lookup to whatever CNAM database they subscribe to. For instance, I can program my dad's number as my outgoing caller ID, then call my dad, and his name and number will appear on his caller ID as if he was calling himself. I'm sure most telemarketers and scammers do something along these lines.

The SIP providers keep logs of all calls and should easily be able to tell if a customer is abusing this feature, but as far as I know little to nothing is done about it.
Tickerguy
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Yep.

There are allegedly fines for allowing spoofed IDs for illegitimate purpose (e.g. customer DOES NOT own the number being sent) BUT they're NEVER, EVER enforced.

EVER.

There is a perfectly legitimate reason for sending a different CID number to be possible in that if I have 200 trunks at my company (we had a ****-ton at MCSNet) and you call someone (dial "9" to get out, etc) what the called party SHOULD see, if it comes from a common trunk and not a DID number (e.g. a private line key on the person's deskset) is the MAIN corporate number -- although the actual trunk they're on is NOT that number (and in fact if you called that number you'd get nothing -- it would just ring -- since there is NO DID map in my switch that corresponds to it so the switch says "**** you, I'm not routing that!")

HOWEVER, the SIP (and other providers) could require you as a subscriber to provide substantiation that you ACTUALLY HAVE the number(s) you are going to send, AND verify them (that is, you give them the number(s) you intend to send, they put them in a database, and you can ONLY send those) as part of signing up and maintaining service with them.

THEY DON'T, which means I can send ANYTHING.

And oh by the way, THEY CHARGE YOU FOR DID MAPPINGS too, so they're completely, 100% full of **** when they say "they don't know" or "can't".

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Dennisglover
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This reminds me of an incident I was happy to walk away from alive. On April 28, 2014, I was at work at Redstone Arsenal Building 5220 when a tornado watch was issued for most of North Alabama and South Central Tennessee. Army procedure with watches is to have the garrison commander assess the situation and follow through with responses including releasing the entire workforce immediately or according to a pre-planned scheduled/timed release.

At about 1100 the garrison ordered a scheduled workforce release that allowed Space and Missile Defense Command to secure operations about 1145. I walked to my truck, got in, lit a cigarette, started the engine, and started to put it in gear when I heard a whole lot of sirens (RSA police, bomb squad, rescue, fire, paramedic, etc.) nearby. Then I saw several police cars moving fast and stopping in front of the main building entrance. I decided it would be safe for me to take an exit other than the blocked main exit and started to put the truck in gear.

At that point I noticed one of the RSA police cars peel away from the other vehicles, cross the almost empty parking lot toward my truck, and come to a stop about 50 feet away. Next there was a large policeman holding a bullpup .12-gauge at port arms, standing behind his cruiser, loudly ordering me, "Get out of the truck with your hands up!" This was cause for concern, of course.

My hands were already on at 10 and 2 on the wheel, and thankfully the window was down and the door unlocked, so I opened the door with my left hand from the outside, and used my left knee to open the door so that I could get out without hiding either of my hands. I exited the truck with my hands fully extended upward after I looked around quickly to ensure there no other policemen approaching.

The cop, still at port arms, came around his cruiser running and stopped about 20 feet away. He asked me, "What are you doing here?" (Pretty stupid thing to say, I'd think.) I began to answer that I was leaving work on an ordered workforce release, but never got to do that, as a puzzled expression came over his face (incoming radio call for "break contact"?) ran back to his car, and drove away toward the large cluster of response vehicles 150 feet away.

That cop never drew down on me.

I stood there with my hands up for a measured full minute, got in the truck, and drove away. That was about 1150. Entire incident was less than five minutes.

Others a few hundred feet away in the "smoke shack" saw the incident. (They were all Missile Defense Agency people in Building 5222, whose release time had not come yet.) And, yes, someone (not I), reported it to the garrison IG.

A couple of days later I got a call from the garrison IG's office. After a short conversation wherein I answered questions, he asked (ordered?) me to provide a detailed report of the incident by email without delay. Of course I followed through on the request.

I never heard another word about the incident except from some of my smoking buddies who had seen it happen. A couple of them told me that someone in MDA's main building had reported "something suspicious" and that the building had been put on lockdown and shelter-in-place about the time I got to my truck. They, being already outside, could not re-enter the building until the lockdown was lifted. (As it turned out, there was never anything recovered inside the building, or at least that's what I was told.)

There's a lot I'd like to know, such as what loads Officer "Friendly" had in that bullpup, if a load was chambered, if the safety was on or off, and what prompted him or his field command to investigate me (maybe I was the only one on the parking lot with a clear line of sight on part of the MDA HQ building?). I suppose I'll never learn any of those things.

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Bodhi
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Incept: 2008-02-23

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HOWEVER, the SIP (and other providers) could require you as a subscriber to provide substantiation that you ACTUALLY HAVE the number(s) you are going to send, AND verify them (that is, you give them the number(s) you intend to send, they put them in a database, and you can ONLY send those) as part of signing up and maintaining service with them.


They absolutely could. I don't have the option to send my own business name, although some providers allow that. I was required to submit a name for approval that is sent with every call I make. Of course, if I spoof my number the name that appears at the called end is whatever name is associated with that number.
Tickerguy
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The firms that refuse to require evidence of ownership of numbers and limit sending to that list should be shut down and their owners imprisoned.

Or shot. I'm good with either.

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Quik49
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and now 5 shot in Denver area...my scanner alert picked it up when happened.....ambush?....I mean whey werent they popping caps out of the gate....

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