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Unknownsailor
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Incept: 2009-04-06

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Luke Skywalker was heroic in episodes 4-6. In TLJ, he is exactly 100% opposite of everything he was in the first three released films.

Mark Hammill is on record telling the director he disagreed with literally everything the director of this crap did with his character, but he was signed on, so he dutifully tried to make it work.

Yes, an all women writing crew is responsible for this mess, and a woman is in charge of the Star Wars universe.

I will never pay money to see another Star Wars film again so long as Disney owns the franchise.

Rogue One was my last straw. Hope is not a battle plan, and while visually pretty, that entire film was an insult to my intelligence.
Vernonb
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Incept: 2009-06-03

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Glad I never ever got into the Star Wars thing when I was in high school when the first movie came out. I was frankly shocked at the over the top "fandom" of some of these people. Reminded me of the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" crowd with their "movie dress up." It's one thing to see kids do this but seeing this outside of Halloween was shock to me for the adults. Seriously - some people need a real life not fantasy immersion.

Anyway when Solo made the "Kessler Run" in less than 12 parsecs <sic> I had to roll my eyes. Yes they can claim he "bent" space and the distance was less but the statement has no meaning unless he was actually talking about a unit of time.

If I see anything like this movie then it will be on some network premier that I flip on due to boredom. I haven't see anything since the stereotyped JarJar Binks episode. I kept hoping he'd get fragged as he reminded me too much of Shelia Jackson Lee and her type of politician- STUPID. Lucas should have committed seppuku at that time.

As stated earlier Dr. Who has been ruined and they even later spun this crap over into the Torchwood series.

I haven't been to a movie theater in 2 years. Supporting Hollyweird supports all the crime and corruption coming out of that place. Most theaters also don't want you to have a weapon to defend yourself so I say **** 'Em.

Once these people start their SJW crap I instantly turn the dial or boycotting their movies. I will not buy or rent the movies either. I have no problems doing so and NOTHING they do will bring me back. Let them all rot.

Quit supporting HollyWeird and the BBC - period.



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Punch_rockgroin
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Incept: 2008-12-31

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Dr. Who has been ruined


It was ruined when they got away from the cheap monster suits & cardboard sets and went to CGI. Making do with a low budget was what made it great.

Tried watching a "modern" episode, but it ended with a guy's girlfriend being turned into a concrete paving tile. They pried her out of the street & they lived happily ever after. No thanks.

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Emg
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Incept: 2012-11-20

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"It was ruined when they got away from the cheap monster suits & cardboard sets and went to CGI."

I have one of the Doctor Who DVDs where you can choose between the original 1970s effects with washing-up-liquid bottles for spaceships and new CG effects. Having seen the difference, I'm afraid I could never go back. I think it's the story where the 'monster' was a guy wrapped in bubble-wrap and painted green.

Some of the early episodes of the post-2000 show were pretty good, particularly the ones based on the audiobooks that were released before the show returned to TV. But after the SJWs were allowed full rein, we pretty much gave up on the whole thing.
Flyanddive
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Blade Runner 2049 will ruin the original for you -- forever. Don't go see it.
When Wallace tells Deckard you were made for Rachael, I turned it off.

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Local_yokel
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Incept: 2008-12-18

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The physics laws have always been fictional in Star Wars, and I can overlook most of it because I understand that space battles would be pretty boring and non-intuitive otherwise. People are used to seeing airplanes move, so Lucas wanted dogfight action versus something closer to naval (submarine) combat, which is what true space battles would more closely resemble.

But the lightspeed kamakaze was a huge plot hole to fill, and there was no excuse for it.

You missed another one, though: Kylo was able to activate a light saber using the force. I seem to remember a plot device (in a book?) to prevent this and sabers required physical touch to activate. Otherwise, as a Jedi/Sith your best tactic is to practice day and night the skill of turning off your opponent's saber using the force. Combat would resemble a strobe light as the units were turned on and off by each other during battle.

The plot was a total mess. Some of the characters were good, and I thought many of the actors did a good job, with a couple of bad standouts.
Tickerguy
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You missed another one, though: Kylo was able to activate a light saber using the force. I seem to remember a plot device (in a book?) to prevent this and sabers required physical touch to activate. Otherwise, as a Jedi/Sith your best tactic is to practice day and night the skill of turning off your opponent's saber using the force. Combat would resemble a strobe light as the units were turned on and off by each other during battle.

Good point; I would expect that a JEDI, when constructing his saber, would include some sort of technology to prevent remote-activation (e.g. physical touch .vs. force projection) because otherwise while it's holstered an opponent could turn it on and cut you in half with your own weapon.

Of course that magically didn't matter when it Snope's turn to die.

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Bjonsson
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I normally can successfully suspend reality when going into a science fiction movie, but that Leia scene when she was blown into space, and then re-entered the ship via a casually opened door was so wrong it literally jarred me when I saw it.

You can take liberties with physics in these flicks, but when you stretch it into such absurdity that the viewer actually becomes aware of the inconsistency, then its a fail.

And yeah, what the hell was up with that scene when the girl diverts Finn's speeder, and gives him the non-violence line? Really jarring scene, in the theater I could hear a collective murmur of folks probably turning to their movie mates and asking various forms of "what was that about?", or "are we supposed to boo or cheer this?"

On the whole it wasn't the physics issues that made me hate this movie, it was the absolutely FLAT plot. There was no craftsmanship in the writing, the jokes were cheap, the emotional scenes were forced, and the scenes involving peril were too obviously cranked up into situations of absurd impossibility diffused by coincidental miracles. Crap movie.

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