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For SJW bull****, the Doctor Who franchise has it's first female Doctor. I'm both intrigued and horrified at the possible outcomes.

First, I like Jodie Whittaker, but I've seen too well what "feminizing" roles turns out to affect - Male bashing versus female empowerment.

Women are ****ing cutthroat, and if they actually study **** like the Art of War and game theory they'd made killer generals. But warriors they (generally) are not.

I have not seen the new Star Wars, and I likely won't. Same for the new Bladerunner. I would rather see NEW things versus classics redone.

IT! made in a "Stranger Things" type format versus the two movie treatise they're giving it, could have been the first major King horror movie that didn't suck since the Shining.
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Blade Runner 2049 will ruin the original for you -- forever. Don't go see it.

Seriously. The original film was really, really ****ing good -- and 2049 was just flat-out ****ing AWFUL.

Yeah, I ranted about this Star Wars douchery, but I was not kidding when I said I nearly walked out of 2049. It really was both that bad and that BORING.

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Ckaminski wrote..
For SJW bull****, the Doctor Who franchise has it's first female Doctor


You'll love this then...the next James Bond could be a woman:

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Karl, Star Wars: The Last Jedi had a production budget including advertising cost totaling 800 million dollars. The film has so far grossed 892 million dollars worldwide in 2 weeks. Theater owners that show the film receive a sizeable percentage of the ticket sales so Star Wars: The Last Jedi will need to gross well over a billion dollars just to break even. The preceding film, Star Wars: The Force Awakens had already grossed 184 million dollars more after its first 2 weeks of release and finished its theatrical run with a worldwide gross of 2.068 billion dollars. The negative word of mouth regarding Star Wars: The Last Jedi will undoubtedly impact its box office returns. Perhaps the film will underperform enough for executives at Disney & Lucasfilm to make the necessary changes to improve and perhaps save the Star Wars franchise. I hope so.
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Perhaps the film will underperform enough for executives at Disney & Lucasfilm to make the necessary changes to improve and perhaps save the Star Wars franchise. I hope so.

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Disney and other SJWs give up their bull**** over something like..... NOT MAKING AS MUCH MONEY?

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Not a prayer in Hell. The utter carelessness in the plotline of the story wasn't just a function of SJW and "Feminist" culture crap, it was also a matter of pure laziness and hubris. Either Disney did not have ONE person in their script writing and editing section who had EVER seen ANY of the original three films or they didn't give a **** about the fact that the hyperdrive-weapon scene literally DESTROYED, PERMANENTLY, the entire plotline of EVERY SINGLE ****ING MOVIE IN THE SERIES.

That's an unrecoverable and unforced error. You CANNOT put that genie back in the bottle no matter what you do. JarJar was campy and stupid, but it was localized damage. The blatant plotline ripoff in VII was eye-rolling, but had some "you're stupid, you get what you deserve" moments (like Han dying the ONE TIME he doesn't shoot first!)

THIS was an entirely-different level of idiocy. The rank disregard for even the most-basic laws of physical reality (vacuum sucks, to start) had no plausible explanation in any universe, nor any technological means of overcoming it. But the dripping horse**** SJW anti-war vagina-loaded Asian chick sister sabotaging her own side's hero who is attempting to save EVERYONE inside the mountain by mounting a single-handed kamakazi attack on the First Order's laser cannon (and is seconds from success) and then did not immediately meet with summary execution for treason by the rest of the resistance was a kick in the face -- after Disney PERMANENTLY destroyed the plotlines of all other Star Wars movies previous and into the future with that horse**** hyperdrive suicide.

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My favorite part was when Luke drank a McDonald's Shamrock Shake out of that giant walrus's tit.
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...the fact that the hyperdrive-weapon scene literally DESTROYED, PERMANENTLY, the entire plotline of EVERY SINGLE ****ING MOVIE IN THE SERIES.


People have become sufficiently dumb enough that this won't matter to a huge number of them. They just need to throw in a few sex robots on various points of the "sexual spectrum" in the next movie and it will do great.
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The bombing scene was about the dumbest scene I have ever seen in a sci-fi movie. The bombers had less structural integrity than a WW2 aircraft but hilariously they are flying so close together such that if one blows up, the spacecraft next to them also blow up. Then you have the whole gravity thing. The whole scene was really stupid but perhaps doesn't take much away from the entire movie.

I thought Rey's character was one dimensional...all Ridley did during the movie was a close-in shot of her twitching her eye lashes. Otherwise acting was pretty compelling across the board.

The entire casino scene was unnecessary. I literally almost fell asleep during the scene. Want to talk bad physics? How about the furry teddy bear horses doing continuous Kool-aid man bursts through walls. Really dumb action scene on par with Saturday morning cartoons (maybe the script writers should go back to their day job). Not to mention that the entire scene had about zero impact on the plot line.

Perhaps the worst, there are a lot of things in this film that completely contradict the prior "canon". This is fine to an extent, but it seems after a while that the script is just a flailing mess of a story and it definitely compromises sequels with the boatload of contradictions that need to be dealt with.

That said, it was entertaining to watch mainly because it had a good pace (outside of the casino scene) and the action scenes were pretty cool to watch on the big screen. This film was definitely a regression to the bad prequels after pretty good films in Episode VII and Rogue One.

To give credit to Hamill, he did lay out some soft criticism for the film, was flogged publicly for it, and immediately walked it back in true 2017 social media hype style. Even he realizes this movie is kind of a turd.
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**** Mark Hamill -- may he choke on a Porg.

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I wasn't planning on seeing this film in the theater but the family wanted to go see a movie for Christmas and this is the one that was picked, big mistake.

I'm surprised no one has commented yet on the opening scene where the pilot of the fighter makes what is basically a prank phone call to the other side. The whole scene was so absurd that I honestly thought that it was an advertisement before the real movie started, "surely the movie can't be this stupid" I remember thinking.

Then the fighter solos the entire dreadnought before they even bother to send out their fighters and I think "this is stupid", then they send out their bombers and the other two star destroyers just kinda sit there and watch and I think "this is stupid", repeat that for the rest of the movie and that was my experience.
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Well there IS a decent explanation for larger weapons being unable to cleanly target small ships IN CLOSE -- it's simply the angle through which the weapon must slew in order to track and lead the ship, and the fact that the little ship can maneuver faster than the gun can react and change its acceleration vector.

There's also the fact that "own goals" are bad, so if you have something that gets inside the perimeter of a bunch of large capital ships you certainly don't want one shooting at the things attacking the others!

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I get that they couldn't fire near the dreadnought, but to me it looked like they weren't doing anything at all, not even firing on the cruiser that the rebels were evacuating to, not firing on the bombers as they approached the dreadnought, nothing but sitting there looking pretty, and this is something that seemed to happen through the entire movie. One of the characters even said on screen something like "we have all this stuff but we can never seem to use it!" and I agreed with him completely.

Oh and another scene where the bad guys just kinda stood around doing nothing, how about when Finn crashes directly in front of the walkers and the big bad gun, then somehow just walks away from them while dragging a body with no cover (it was a desert) without even getting shot at?
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Another SciFi movie they ruined with SJW bull**** is "Elysium". All the oppressed people left on Earth were brown. The rich, elites on the space station were all lily white.

When the oppressed hijacked some ships and were inbound to the space station the station defense reported "incoming undocumented spacecraft". Undocumented.

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Well yeah, there's that. How many ****ing First Order dudes had blasters (never mind the walkers with REALLY BIG ****ing blasters....)

But heh, after vagina knocks Finn's speeder out that he didn't instantly FRAG that bitch was the capper for me -- especially when he's sitting there in the wrecked speeder, having been sabotaged by the **** from his own side and WATCHES them blast the door and kill a bunch of people on the other side of it.

Then she runs that "war isn't the answer" crap. Well, the First Order doesn't see it that way, bitch, and you just got a few dozen of my friends KILLED!

I would have fragged that bitch right then and there.

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In the original Star Wars, Luke's X-Wing was told to pull up. The X-Wing was getting cooked from electro-shock.

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I'll take a crack at that space chase scene.

Ships with engines on are accelerating. Assuming both the rebel cruiser and the Imperial dreadnaught have similar characteristics, the rebel ships which are low on fuel could have more acceleration (due to higher thrust/current mass) than the imperial fleet (full fuel load, higher mass/thrust) but less delta-V. The rebel fleet could get a fairly good distance ahead of the imperials: a one gravity difference in performance over 18 hours could put the rebel fleet almost 21 million kilometers ahead of the imperials, and moving 648 km/sec faster. Of course, this distance is about one seventh of an AU, so given a good *telescope* the imperials can still keep track of the rebels; and they'll eventually catch up when the rebels' delta-V runs out...

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You don't even need a hyperdrive to destroy another ship by ramming. That 648 KPS speed difference you've built up: For a 10000 ton ship that's roughly half a megaton yield (though it *is* in the wrong direction, but still...)

(And speaking of megatons, we already have bombs in the real world that can vaporize anything within any distance that any engagement took place over in the movie.)

The part where Leah gets blown out into space is the ONLY scene in all the Star Wars movies where they made being out in space *sound like it's supposed to*!

As for the SJW issue, it is kind of grating; but I really don't know how to object to it without being thought a multiple-"ist". I'll just note that the original Star TREK was chock full of SJW from day one, and no one seemed to care for some reason.
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Ships with engines on are accelerating. Assuming both the rebel cruiser and the Imperial dreadnaught have similar characteristics, the rebel ships which are low on fuel could have more acceleration (due to higher thrust/current mass) than the imperial fleet (full fuel load, higher mass/thrust) but less delta-V. The rebel fleet could get a fairly good distance ahead of the imperials:

EXCEPT THEY DON'T, which is my complaint.

DESPITE the ships burning fuel at disparate rates the ^V they get does NOT change. Well, guess what -- mass changes, thrust does not, ^V *CHANGES*. Yet the First Order is unable to either catch them (they can generate more ^V having bigger engines) NOR does the alliance pull away -- neither is the case. There are multiple shots of them maintaining the EXACT same distance between them, which is the entire point of the plot device -- they buy TIME with it, but it's STUPID beyond words.

And yes, RAMMING has been used in Star Wars before -- in Ep VI to be exact, and again in Rogue One. But the ships have a shield generator, and if you remember "INTENSIFY FORWARD FIRE!!" the Empire's mid-sized (say much less capital) ships are only vulnerable to small ship ramming with that shield down -- the rebels manage to blow it up on one of the midsized cruisers and then a kamakazi run from an X-wing pilot who is hit and decides to ram the bridge manages to take out the nav controls, which then (having gone haywire) makes for a hell of a ramming device itself. That was actually a pretty cool scene....

The same thing happens (more or less) in Rogue One where they get the gate (which is ALSO shielded) that way -- by using an imperial cruiser with a disabled drive that they **** up pretty good, coming up against it on purpose then hitting the thrust on the still-functional ship, using it as a pile driver on the gate and overwhelming its shields.

Point being the little Rebel cruiser was no match for the shield system on that Star Destroyer, which could easily repel anything reasonable that rammed it. You needed something REALLY ****ING BIG to get through there if the shields were intact -- which is why the hyperdrive horse**** was so galling. That was a big capital ship that was ripped to pieces by a little piece of ****, and if you really COULD do that then Alderaan would have -- in Ep IV.

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FYI- in the EU books that no longer follow the story line, ramming was an issue that was dealt with in multiple ways. They could use any of them easily since I believe Disney owns those books now.

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Since the First Order had a whole fleet, why not just have a couple ships with plenty of fuel make a short jump in front of the Rebels?

The hyperspace-missiles thing I can sorta make work. Takes 2 conjectures.

One, shields on ships are REALLY good, so you can't ram an X-Wing through a Star Destroyer, you need more mass. A cruiser works vs a Super Star Destroyer. Vs a Death Star you might need a Star Destroyer to suicide.

Two, hyperdrive needs a sentient pilot. It's partially a Force effect. Not enough you need to be aware of the Force, but you need to be organic at least. (Niven used something similar in his Known Space books - navigating in Hyperspace is done by a device that uses psionics to do mass detection, which means no autopilot.)

But those things still don't stop suicide missions. Stick a hyperdrive on a bajillion tons of asteroid and put a pilot in it. Take out anything. Death Stars, planets, whatever. Use a moonlet and pilot it into a star for a massive flare that sterilizes a planet, and then you can recolonize it later even.


Star Wars has a special spot for me. I was 9, and it was the first movie I ever saw. We had a B&W TV that got 2 channels. And the trip was a surprise, I wasn't even aware of the existence of movie theaters.
Mind Blown... Then it came to the little theater in my hometown and I spent my paper route money watching it a couple dozen more times. I'd go to the matinee every Saturday and watch it a bunch of times in a row.

5&6 were great as well. I went to the theater for each a few times.

1,2,3 I saw once in the theater, and that was plenty. 7 I saw twice. Rebels I saw 3 times. This one? Once was plenty again. Every time I started to get immersed, complete stupidity happened again and broke my suspension of disbelief.

I'll pay for 9 when it comes out, just to finish the run. But if the early reports are as crappy as 8, I damn sure won't be roadtripping to an IMAX screen. I'll just catch a discount showing at the local ****hole.
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Taking a stab at the SJW thingie...

Word has it the writing was done by a group that was all female, and that Rian Johnson's group is obsessed about having Star Wars have proportional representation from all ethnicities in America. That is from the NYT.

OK. Rogue One was released in 2016 and the writers said that it was to be seen as an allegory to the modern political divisions, with "diverse" peoples being lead by a courageous woman against the older (First?) order, which is obviously White men.

It follows that the writing for one Disney movie in the franchise would be continuous with those in close proximity in the franchise.

Rebel Alliance = Matriarchy
First Order = Patriarchy

Whites = older (First) order. They are big, seemingly powerful, and must be stopped by virtuous peoples of color led by powerful women.

The casino planet is obviously an allegory to the 1%, who get rich through exploitation of non-whites in selling instruments of oppression to oppressive minded peoples. Again, that's just OWS clap-trap. What was their undoing? They got a parking ticket (no, that's not a joke). White communities have such pesky rules that are there just to keep the struggling colored people down. (HOA...)

Luke? The hero that built the previous victories. Well, he is now old (recurring theme) and is perpetually pissed off at what has become of his (older) order. He has retreated to an island (gated community) where he lives a monastic life based upon dusty books. (if you can't figure out what that means in the context of an anti-Western SJW narrative, you really are stupid).

Luke repeatedly refuses to help the new hero, but what little help he offers (man-splaining), is not needed because Mary Sue is better than everyone at everything, because, well...she has a vagina.

Luke is just going to run out his days telling kids to get off his lawn and being permanently pissed off at how all the women and minorities now run things. Yup. That is how the Sec_Prog Left sees America. They are breathlessly counting down the days to 2040 when Whites are old, living on islands, and a numerical minority.

Admiral Purple-haired Tumblerina has the look and mannerisms of the most smug, SJW college professor/social worker and she hates White males. The only reason the cocky, hot shot, pilot (Poe?) is in the rebel alliance is that Tumblerina can't dress-down a black man in front of anyone. Poor form. We can't have the narrative of a black man being impulsive and being chewed out by lemon sucking shrew White women. Other than that, all the White males are on the First Order.

Admiral Tumblerina is how the writers see themselves (look up "author proxy" on Google). She is sophisticated, emotionally stable, altruistic, and won't take any **** from the "old White male order," regardless of the uniform they are wearing. Her purposes are far, far above the comprehension of those who are not in her station of life, and we just need to know that. Star Wars is being rewritten over the objections of White males, and it is for our own good. Tumblerina doesn't need to explain herself and she can hide behind her unearned rank, just as the 11 women who wrote this dreck, who were given the job because they had vaginas, don't need to explain themselves to the White men that put this franchise on the map.

Then there is Rey, or Mary Sue. She is perfect. She does everything better than all the White men she comes into contact. Han Solo, Benjamin Solowitz, Luke Skywalker, Poe The Pilot, etc. Not bad for a junk yard rat. She doesn't have to have any struggles, other than the struggle of being a woman in a man's universe. Again, she is emotionally stable, altruistic, brilliant, talented, and can use the mass x acc better than White male (even Windu) "masters" that have studied it for lifetimes. When she is studying at the foot of Luke, it doesn't last because Girl Power doesn't need a man anymore than a fish needs a bicycle.

The grand master of White males (Emperor duJour), Snoke is moving Mary Sue around his chambers like he is about to******her, and that is the message. He has power over her and summons her to be his. Of course, Ben Solowitz saves her for his own, because he wants to******her, and when she figures this out, they duke it out and she wins. ******culture. Woman in a (White) man's world, as the SJW narrative has it.

Then we come to the modern Jar-Jar - Rose. She is how the SJWs see Asians. They are brought in to do the technical jobs, but are really more suited for leadership, and are only being held down because of race. She is tough, fearless, brilliant, and...of course...oppressed because of race.

The only woman in the First Order is Captain Phasma, who is (as Stormtroopers go) very pretty. She is a shiny bauble that is completely worthless, but has her place in the Patriarchy because she is shiny and pretty (beauty is skin deep). She doesn't last long, has not a single accomplishment to her name, other than looking good, and is killed by the Black dude and the woefully unattractive and overweight Asian Jar Jar. Metaphor - obvious. It's like the laments of the SJW Left that hates the fact married, heterosexual White chicks voted for Donald Trump, and they will get their justice in due course for being traitors of the vagina. (Look up how many white women are raped and killed by Black men, and how the SJW media cover it. Hint: they don't cover it)

There are probably more nuances, but I can't watch that **** again. I turned 10 the summer the original Star Wars came out, and I wanted to be Luke Skywalker (I became a real-life USN pilot). I remember getting into playground scraps over who was going to be "Red Leader" or "Red 5" when we played Star Wars. Empire Strikes Back was awesome, and the best Star Wars movie out there. I was 15 when I saw Carrie Fisher in a bronze bikini, and that was damn near perfect timing.

White males over 45 made up the zany fan base that made Star Wars what it is (how many times did you see EP IV when it was in its original theatrical run?). We were pre-adolescents that this movie was designed to reach. Now, what was a YUGE part of our childhood has **** all over those memories. The Last Jedi stuck a **** covered middle finger up our nose and dared us to flinch.

Yes, this sucks. With Luke, Leia, Han, and Ben all dead, why root for the rebels anymore? If "representation" and "identity politics" are all that matters (so the SJWs tell us), what the **** happens when the anti-SJWs start to identify with their own kind?

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Well, like I said -- I would have FRAGGED that Asian **** right where she stood when she wrecked my speeder, and that was EXACTLY what I expected Mr. I Decided To Be a Hero to do.

Of course he doesn't, because... DISNEY.

**** him and **** Disney. Solo died the ONE TIME he didn't shoot first. HE would have fragged that bitch.

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Anything Disney has creative control over soon becomes a Princess movie. They simply don't know how to make anything else.

Fortunately, I haven't cared about Star Wars since The Phantom Menace.
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Disney sucks. They take beloved tales and destroy them the way bullies pick something special to you to destroy.

I'll remember Star Wars as the original movies that I took my little brother and his buddies to see over and over again. And they always came out after so excited and talking like it was the first instead of the sixth time they'd seen the movie.

Disney sucks!
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"The Expanse" is reasonably accurate scientifically, as modern SF goes. The books are more accurate, the TV series made some compromises. There are, however, gems even on the TV series, like Alex, the pilot of the heroes' ship, being bored in zero-G while hiding, power off, and chasing globules of soda as they float across the cabin.

Anyway, what scares me more than the idiocy in The Last Jedi are the positive reviews it's received - mostly from millennials, and mostly from women.

I firmly believe we are failing our boys, especially those of European descent.
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