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Sundance
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I remember hearing the 2% figure at that time and unlike most people who not only couldn't be bothered to get news of that sort, but if they did probably let it pass through their thoughts in the same manner as when they hear "it's going to be cloudy today". Unfortunately, not me. I start doing math on all figures I hear immediately. Here's one I recently came across: Looking at the federal debt table, the deficit has increased ~ 11.3T in the last 10 years (12/22/07 - 12/22/17). With 320MM population, that's 35,300 per person, $141,000 per family of 4. Divided by 120 months, it's as tho a family of 4 borrowed almost $1,200/mo that whole time to get by. Are you ****in' kidding me? And I thought it was unforgivable 10 years ago to pass the debt on to future generations. I'm beginning to think 'deficits indeed don't matter' - as per Dick Cheney in 2003. I don't know anything anymore. I guess everything can grow to the sky. So far I haven't seen anyone running for office that says they will address the theft, corruption and downright stupidity that is going on in gov't. Trump kinda scratched the surface. Maybe it's a start.
Tickerguy
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No he didn't.

He just threw gas on the fire.

**** him with a rusty chainsaw and may an asteroid hit Mar-a-Lago for Christmas.

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Brendangm
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United States
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"Let me know when you're
ready to actually demand
and enforce that this
lawless behavior end."

In the last two market
corrections in the USA,
at the bottoms, before
they turned up .. was
there social unrest?

How much?

I do not think there is
any reason to hope the
bottom (you pick the
percentage) of Americans;
in terms of actually caring
about justice, will awaken
in time, which still leaves
a few alternatives.

Thanks for all the
writings Karl, I hope
I can repay in some
type of coin.




Moon
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You people really need to start getting out more...
The faces have changed but the message remains constant.
Remember there's no crying in your beer/here when you get what you asked for.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7JqhfZV-cm....
Rollformer
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"'If there is hope,' wrote Winston, 'it lies in the proles.' If there was hope, it MUST lie in the proles, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within."

What percentage, our proles? In terms of the world, our population knows no poverty. Period. We have our poor and disenfranchised, certainly. But not even the most destitute homeless junkie knows the day-to-day grid of real poverty; where rain means you can't make the charcoal to go to market and you go without food for a day.

Poverty of mind and poverty of spirit seem far more common. Theodore Dalrymple, a British psychiatrist, who spent most of his professional career serving prisoners and the poor of Britain makes these points. You can find his writings at city-journal.org. The poorest of the poor are placated by the government; Medicaid, Section 8, and food security programs, in that order of expenditure, if I understand it correctly. So the poor get their healthcare, their housing, and their carbohydrates. (One thing that absolutely pisses me off about the Right is the never-ending examples of someone complaining about someone buying steak or seafood with their food stamps. Given the cost of diabetes and relative little spending on food support, it should be encouraged, if not subsidized.) Like the proles in 1984, most are cared for.

In "1984", there were the proles, the outer Party, and the inner Party, in that order of affluence. Let us examine our country in light of those components of society.

The Office of Personnel Management reports 2.7 million civilian employees as of 9/2013 for the federal government. Census reports 19.2 million state and local in 2012. That is 21.9 civilian government employees. Roughly a bit less than half in education. But those responsible for educating the children are legion, though I have not bothered to determine how many are responsible for the actual education versus those who make up rules as to how to teach and what to teach.

None of these people are "rich" in the sense that the rich are rich. Nor are they poor; there is a statistic I saw where the average hourly cost of a government employee is $48. Again, not rich by a rich man's standard, but filthy rich by the standard of someone in a trailer park or a ghetto.

Now, let us look at Human Resources. I will cite the source here, because, while the others may be checked with a google search, these beggar belief. So here it is: https://www.shrm.org/ResourcesAndTools/b....

The site give the overall ratio of all organizations a Staff:HR ratio of 2.57. Sounds insane, right? There is a footnote. Here is what is says: "The HR-to-employee ratio is calculated by dividing the number of HR
FTEs by the total number of FTEs in the organization and multiplying
by 100"

They multiply the QUOTIENT, not the staff numerator. So let us apply this to productive employees (note, they use Full-time-equivalent, so where part-timers are used extensively, it is likely worse). According to Statista, there were 126.47 million full-time employees in November, 2017. Applying the ratio, we find 48 million in HR! This MAY be too high; the HRSM numbers are per Full-Time-Equivalent, and I am using full-timers, not part-timers who add up to full-time. Some places, such as small businesses, do not have HR people, so the SHRM numbers probably do not contain them.

So we have this: 19.2 government; 7.4 of whom are HR; 126.470, total FT. Subtract government, we have 107.3 million non-gov FT. Of whom 41.7 million are HR. That leaves us with 65.5 million makers vs. takers, at least in the private sector. Government adds no value, so we lump them in with HR. So we have 126.5 million full-time employees, 65.5 million create value. The votes aren't there.

For me, I am going to start a blog. I did, in August, but I needed to understand what I understand now. Most of my Facebook friends don't care, or don't like it because they benefit. I grew up a hillbilly; hopefully I have some credibility with them.

Some ideas I have had:

(1) How much would your house have cost in an honest money environment?
(2) Your rent is expensive, should it be?
(3) How much is the upper-middle class subsidized with the tax-deduct-ability of employers' contributions to your health insurance?

To call the hillbillies proles, much like Clinton called the deplorable, is a pompousness I do not like. But, like Orwell said, the hope is with the proles. Trump is president because of them. Let there still be some hope.

Christmas grows near, so I steal from Zappa's "Chrissy" from "Titties 'n' Beer'":

"Well I got me three beers, and fist full of downs,
So I'm gonna get wasted, and **** you clowns!"

Merry Christmas to all; I'll be back tomorrow, if Karl gives us a post.
Moon
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Hit the delete button ... &#127377; <b> I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU<b/> that's what I thought
I will return to my stump now ...where I was setting pitchfork and torch in hand before I was so rudely interrupted...
Tickerguy
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Thou tempt the man with the banhammer in one hand and a beer in the other?

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Rollformer
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I seek not the banhammer; let us continue the discussion tomorrow. I finished the beer. I want to make a difference. Or at least, try,
Nevertoolate
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San Antonio de Bexar de runover with illegals, Texas
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Great! Another one soon bites the dust. How can anyone that just recently opened an account accurately say WTF does or does not go on here? #1 This is KD's living room and we are his guests. He is the only "Moderator". Period, the end. Rule #2 Posting does not give you ownership to anything except your words. You have an opinion as does everyone. You are no more right or wrong than anyone. Be prepared to back up what you say with facts. If you are wrong, admit it. Everyone makes mistakes. #3 All of the chairs in the room are full and you can't just grab one because someone left to take a piss. Once your get a chair in a few years you can **** up a little and KD might let it slide.

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Democracy is a conversation between 2 wolves & a sheep discussing what's for dinner. A Constitutional Republic is found when the sheep pulls out a gun & makes clear that his 2nd Amendment Right will be exercised should the wolves attempt to hold such a "vote."-KD 9-29-15
Moon
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The NPR article fails to mention a bright shiny new suspension bridge recently built within eyeshot of the dilapidated old houses and now the powers that be want them brought up to code as they are unsightly to their powers that be eyes.
Asimov
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Quote:
because as long as you do, these keyboard commandos won't do anything, because reading your articles makes them think they are.


Speak for yourself, because you're certainly not speaking for me. Matter of fact, you're offending me.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
Hilandstrata
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The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
&#8213; Plato
Nadavegan
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"because as long as you do, these keyboard commandos won't do anything, because reading your articles makes them think they are."

A fine word of caution, but short-sighted IMHO. Some of us read here and scrutinize every word because we are modeling our lives a certain way and may be 10 to 15 years behind the senior members of the group for whatever reason. We are doing what we can with what we have, and this group allows us to do so with eyes open. Karl will do what he wants when he wants, but to say it is having no impact now, or that none of us are doing anything about the situation, is wrong.
Whitehat
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"I'm Truly Starting To Fear The Worst For The US Car Industry..." from ZeroHedge

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-22....

this is a good related read. after a while more demand cannot be manufactured. the article does not mention it, but the industry has a rather effective way of disposing of the used inventory to eliminate a potential glut of low cost used cars. there is a very large export industry to developing and second order countries. if their economies ever break, and demand stops, new car sales are finished. bad monetary policy and willful disregard for the law caused us to be where we are. China is starting to reject recycling jobs, soon to be making first world cars in country which they will export to the developing world, no doubt. then they will export them to us, bye, bye one more industry as it is saturated already.

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There are two ways to be rich: One is by acquiring much, and the other is by desiring little.
snow, seasons, distance and dirt roads: SSDD
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap" (Gal. 6:7)
Renov8
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"Speak for yourself, because you're certainly not speaking for me. Matter of fact, you're offending me."

If the shoe fits, wear it.

Otherwise, move on to the next article and post away.






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