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Rach1902
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don't fool yourself.
Mueller investigation is going nowhere

https://tomluongo.me/2017/12/01/mueller-....

"The clue that Mueller will not deliver much more than he has is building in the media now. For the past week the major media outlets have been prepping the narrative that Robert Mueller is incompetent."

From the L. A. Times on Sunday to Newsweek earlier this week. The media that, heretofore, have painted Mueller as the acme of prosecutorial acumen, are now telling us that hes a control-freak who has botched investigations in the past.

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So the Dems win the House and impeach Trump in 2019. Where's the 67 Senators who will vote to convict? Trump ain't Nixon; he will fight this **** to the end. What do you think he'd say if RINO cucks walked in and told him he needs to resign. GTFO.

Not to mention, the market will crash hard in the middle of all this if it hasn't already. I bet a 30%+ correction will shut that **** down fast in the Senate.

Impeachment is no big deal since Clinton. That episode turned it into our version of a non-confidence Parliamentary vote. Who gives a **** if they impeach him or not? Everyone know the fibbies are political hacks.
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I've never seen so many one hit wonders on this site in the past 10 years....wtf all the sudden ....

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Tickerguy
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I still haz banhammer... smiley

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And what lovely tool it is!

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Nevertoolate
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What's the half-life of less than 10 post folks? My bet is less than a week.
They think this is like most other places where: 1.)No real person actually reads (or understands or understands) what they post. 2.)Gives a **** about truth versus some BS line they are trying to run.

Suggestion:New customer login has to read the post of the last 10 users that have been banned before acceptaning their account. Might weed a few of them out. Bueno Bye!

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Democracy is a conversation between 2 wolves & a sheep discussing what's for dinner. A Constitutional Republic is found when the sheep pulls out a gun & makes clear that his 2nd Amendment Right will be exercised should the wolves attempt to hold such a "vote."-KD 9-29-15

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smiley

Eh, half the people who get banhammered never actually get a single post out where you can see it. Then there are all those who the system catches on obviously-forged accounts (E.g. someone who got banned and tried to come back, etc) and never let them register in the first place, in some cases automatically IP-banning them at the same time.

What I find amusing is that with every failure the "signature quality" improves of course, since the system keeps that around, so if you try and fail the odds of a second try being successful goes down...... smiley

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Themortgagedude
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Rach?

Mueller going nowhere? Maybe, but if not this sure is an attempt to put The Donald's balls in a vice.

And the Senate Republicans who would have to try the case. Not a one of them is re-electable if Bannon primaries them after they remove Trump and they know it. Their nuts are getting a little squeeze too.

Most likely The Donald is more valuable to the Deep Staters as a hand puppet than he is as a martyr. And most likely he's more valuable to people that like him as a martyr than he is as a President.

JMTC and I'm not saying it's worth any more than that.

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@themortgagedude I agree. I'd handicap this situations at 45% nothingburger, 35% impeached/no conviction, 10% impeached/convicted (removed), and 10% other. I don't see 67 votes in the Senate to convict. Impeachment/removals are mostly political, not legal. Clinton got impeached and basically became a liberal martyr (until recently).
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Quik49 wrote..
I've never seen so many one hit wonders on this site in the past 10 years....wtf all the sudden ....


Christmas came early for the Banhammer smiley

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I think the number is a lot higher on impeachment and no removal. That fits there objective. That's to get him out in 2020 without having to do the heavy lifting themselves.

Don't kid yourself. This is being puppet mastered at the highest levels.

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I believe I previously said that Trump's arrogance would get the best of him and it's looking like that'll be the case really soon...
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Is there any other proof beyond the letter that Comey wrote that Trump asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation? It seems Comey would have a lot of incentive to create this letter out of thin air and would this really be accepted as evidence without further proof?
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How would he know to create this letter out of thin air unless the discussion took place? The date and timestamp on the letter are known authentic since it was written on an official FBI machine and, I am reasonably-certain, his CAC card was used to authenticate to the network to store it.

While exactly WHAT was said may not be able to be proved THAT the conversation took place is fairly solidly-established, since to believe otherwise you have to come up with a plausible reason for him to take such a memo to file without ever having had the conversation in the first place.

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Themortgagedude
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What is said and what was meant are open to interpretation. But I find it hard to believe Comey is so smart as to set him up so well. Maybe so - he is a spook - but it's more than likely the public will believe Comey on the memo he wrote.

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I buy that a conversation took place. I just think it's short of proof Trump asked him to stop the investigation and far short of an obstruction charge. I think Comey knew he was in trouble and was searching for ways to enact revenge or get a bargaining chip. Hell, he could have just felt pressured without the actual words being spoken and embellished. Karl, I acknowledge that it could have happened the way you propose, however, without further proof, I believe it's not likely to bring Trump down.
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Maybe Trump gave a opinion (Trump speaking: You know, Flynn is a good guy and has served his country for many years admirably...). but no instructions on how to proceed. Comey felt pressured and wrote it down. Maybe it's a tactic Trump developed over time. Not unlike LBJ who was a towering man who got deep into peoples personal space to apply pressure without stepping over the line. Does anyone know if there is a copy on the web somewhere? I looked and found a reference from the NY Times of Comey's testimony but no actual memo.
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Excuses excuses....

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Flyanddive
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Peter Strzok might be Trump's get out of jail free card. The Obstruction of Justice still stands over firing Comey, but the case for actually putting Trump in Prison after being impeached will fall apart.

Strzok committed several felonies, and violated FBI policy on behalf of Hillary Clinton, to frame Trump for a crime, in an attempt to steal the 2016 election. While Strzok was framing Trump for Russian collusion in working directly with Fusion GPS, Crowdstrike, and Chris Steele, he was also destroying evidence in the Hillary investigation, and defrauding the American public. Strozok also appears to have denied Flynn's request for an attorney during a surprise interview, which is the subject to the Flynn lying and the plea deal. Furthermore, Strozok changed the words in Comey's famous Hillary speech to soften the impact to Hillary.

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Strzok has a wee problem here.....

IF there is a Rule of Law.

If he doesn't go to pound-him-in-the-ass prison and the indictment doesn't show up within weeks then you're left figuring out exactly what it's worth spending your life on, and nothing more or less.

The answer might be "nothing; nobody in this ****ing country is worth it", but that's all the calculating you have left.

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Flyanddive
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Wow, it's being reported that Flynn knew Strozok was having an affair, IF that is the case, and Flynn told Trump, Trump's Obstruction of Justice is now canceled. There is now reason to believe Trump had the right to tell Comey to stop blackmailing Flynn, for "cover your ass" reasons, Comey would write a memo, saying Trump told him to drop the Flynn investigation.

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smiley

The game may now be afoot....

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Flyanddive
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If Trump knew Strzok was dirty, and Strzok didn't recuse himself, Trump had every right to fire Comey, NOT ONLY THAT, Trump now has the right to fire Mueller under the DOJ misconduct rules. If Trump had two firing neurons, he would fire Mueller this week.

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I think he should fire him right now and dare the Congress, in the middle of the tax bill, to blow this all wide open.

I don't know what the truth is but the best way to get to it is to bring it right into the middle of the debate right here, right now, with the House and Senate embroiled in the Tax Bill. Make 'em eat it while the cauldron is good and hot.

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I don't know what the truth is either, but this new "leaked" information, if credible certainly connects the dots. It looks like Flynn had an ongoing feud with the FBI. The FBI may have intentionally tried to frame Trump to protect its own criminal behavior.

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/06/27/n....

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