Does Jeff Bezos Need To Go To Prison?
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2017-11-10 11:17 by Karl Denninger
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Does Jeff Bezos Need To Go To Prison?
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Maybe.

Unless you live under a rock you know that Roy Moore, who is the Republican candidate to replace Jeff Session's Senate seat out of Alabama, has been accused of some extraordinarily-salacious and in one case illegal act.

There's a problem -- the alleged act(s) occurred nearly forty years ago and yet not one allegation of same has occurred until now.

I won't get into the actionability of the claim in the first place since with one exception all the so-called accusers were 16 or older and thus of the age of consent at the time.  Further, there has been no allegation of force or improper influence being used, and Moore was unmarried.  In other words unlike the "star allegations" we're not talking about harassment, rape, (statutory) abuse of underage individuals or even adulteryalthough it still smells like dead fish if the allegations are true.

Now add to this that Judge Moore is not some random dude that just decided to run for Senate.  He has a decades long history of being extraordinarily controversial and a public political figure, including being elected as a judge twice in Alabama with the second time after being ousted for refusing to remove the Ten Commandments from a court.

There were plenty of reasons for anyone who had a legitimate beef with his sexual proclivities, and plenty of opportunity with the capacity to do him real political damage, to act before now.  Yet I'm aware of exactly zero in the way of "rumblings", say much less allegations, on this point until a few days ago.

That's enough to call the question about a political hit (that is, a lie) standing alone.

But it's not standing alone.

There are now allegations that The Washington Post attempted to pay women to come forward and make allegations of this sort.

The claim is being made that not only did this happen it has been turned over to the DA.  There are further allegations as to motive and intentional bias, and that this isn't a case of "first impression" either.

Even better, the calls apparently were recorded, so the claim is that there's hard evidence that the attempted bribe happened.

If this turns out to be true given the political affiliation and direct links to both Jeff Bezos and both his and the alleged "reporters" links to the DNC then this certainly appears to amount to federal election tampering, bribery as an inducement to engage in an unlawful act and Racketeering.

If this proves up then not only should the Washington Post be criminally indicted and shut down so should Amazon and Jeff Bezos as well since this sure looks to me like a case where the Racketeering law applies and I remind you that bribery is one of the predicate offenses on which Racketeering can be charged.  Racketeering can be and should be charged against anyone who was involved in, funded benefited from or stood to benefit from the product of said predicate conduct or pattern of activity.

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Update 11/11: For those who have severe problems with reading comprehension (it seems there's a bunch), let's try this again.

If there is proof that Moore is guilty of soliciting a 14 year old (for "dates" or anything else) who he either knew or had reason to know was 14 at the time then he has no business in Congress or anywhere else.  But the evidence does not support that.  Let's go through it.

There is one actionable allegation from a person with credibility problems.  The other allegations are that an adult asked other persons of the legal of consent to go on date(s), in fact asked their parents even though not legally required to do so for consent and received same, that the other party consented to said date(s) as well and the worst "behavior" exhibited during such dates were some number of...... kisses.

I repeat: I have yet to read any allegation of force, coercion, abuse of an unequal power relationship, sexual harassment, unwanted touching, attempted sex whether consensual or not (of any sort, such as with Herr Clinton and his stinky cigarsand unlike so-called "men" today the so-called accused asked the parents of the young women if it was ok to date their daughter before doing so.

Now if you have an issue with him being 30ish at the time, well, then you do.  I get that, but such is neither illegal or immoral.  I remind you that the age of sexual consent in Alabama was (and is) 16, and the age of consent to drink in Alabama at the time was 19.  Therefore, if 16, 17, 18, or 19 then she was a "teen", but perfectly legal and, if whoever "she" was was 19 then it was legal for her to drink too.

Despite this even the accusers admit that said "terrible cad" not only asked for his dates' parents blessing (which he had no requirement to do) and received it, and despite alleged consensual alcohol consumption (by a legal adult) his "horrible conduct" included such things as playing a guitar and singing, with the worst of said "conduct" being a kiss, probably of the "goodnight" variety.

If you are going to hang a man politically who by admission of his accusers is more honorable than 99.9% of the men in the nation today, who I remind you believe there is no requirement in honor or otherwise to ask a young woman's parents if it is ok to date their daughter say much less **** her brains out and then the worst conduct you can accuse him of is a goodnight kiss you're certifiably insane.

If you're a RepubliTURD who castigates Moore for this "conduct" perhaps it's because you like to bugger little boys or diddle your interns and staff -- and thus are offended that he actually believes that he should seek the consent of the parents of those who is attracted to before asking them out.

May I remind you that this is the very same Congress that exempted itself in 1995 from sexual harassment law and put in place special protections for itself if any of its members were accused of same including forcing the taxpayers to pay any settlements that were ultimately required if said accusers ultimately proved their cases and even in that instance the identity of the guilty party was withheld from the public.

I know exactly why the media and Congress is up in arms over this: They're incensed that all they can "find" to "support" a bare allegation is evidence of chivalrous behavior that has been nearly-extinct since the 1960s despite a diligent search for someone to back up said scurrilous allegation -- including possibly the use of bribery to obtain intentional false claims!

Never mind John "I'm a ****head" McCain who is one of the douchenozzles that has gone after Judge Moore.  How old is John McCain and how old is his wife?  She was 17 years younger when she met him and, I remind you, he ditched his wife at the time who had stayed loyal to him while he was a POW despite her being grievously injured in an accident.

When John got a "better and 17 year younger offer" he took it, damned his vows to Hell, and whether his "new" choice was a matter of "love" or simple unbridled ambition since she was rich we will never know, will we?

What did People (the magazine) have to say about this?

"What’s a little lie when love is involved?"

You see the truth is that it simply scares Congress and the media to death that someone believes in God, traditional courtship and marriage (which I remind you involves the man asking the woman's parents if it is ok to date their daughter and, if the dates go somewhere, he then comes back and asks the Dad if it's ok to marry her too) and what's worse this "alleged" horny, horrible dirty man didn't even attempt anything more than to sing some songs, spend some time and share a kiss at the end of the night with women who were legally entitled at the time to date whoever they wanted, whenever they wanted and to engage in any sexual conduct that they wanted.

Yeah.  That's the "outrage".

Show me a credible allegation of attempting to "waylay" an underage girl (under the age of consent) and I'm interested.  Where are they?  Decades of controversy around this guy and political enemies shooting at him through two removals from the bench and this is what is "surfaced" 40 years later? The Washington Post goes after trying to "corroborate" a wildly-spun and singular tale including possibly bribing people and they still can't get what they're looking for?

The "best" argument they come up with are Hillary campaign workers who today are hell-bent political opponents and despite all that these "other accusers" effectively exonerate Moore and debunk the original allegation by stating that they were of the age of consent, he sought their parents permission to date them AND that this "dirty old man" never desired to exchange anything beyond a kiss!

REALLY?

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I'm sure our brave AG will be bringing down the entire weight of the US justice department on this obvious case of bribery and election tampering. Oh...wait...

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What's the process to replace Judge Moore as a candidate and ballot access for the individual? My preference would be for Sessions to immediately step down and run for his vacated seat himself.

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Yesterday I was really thinking this whole thing was a hit. It stinks. I don't know a whole lot about Roy but the timing is ridiculous. Especially after all the "Dems are on the comeback" news.

And they want a statue of Marion "i like coke and prostitutes" Barry in DC.
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From the thread on that Twatter link you posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/nojs_router....

"Washington Post reporter behind Roy Moore hit piece has history of writing Fake Checks

Sounds like she has money issues and is looking for a payday...who's paying?"

Interesting if true. Overall, this sounds like a complete hit piece - just like the SWAMP has done in the past.

Better have some hard evidence, not just hearsay innuendos. Moore - presuming that this is all BS, which I believe - just needs to keep soldiering on. He ain't no wilting flower, that's for sure. I bet this increases his chances of being elected!

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Back when Bezos bought the WaPo I scratched my head as to why. It's not like Wal-Mart directly or the Walton family indirectly ever bought a major news outlet - and they certainly could afford it. Nope, Bezos is all about peddling influence and having a major newspaper is a good foot in that door. I'm sure this if "fake news" on an epic scale but for what passes as law in this country I'm doubtful anything will become of it. Bezos likely should be in jail and the Washington Post should definitely be shuttered. People in dee-cee would still have the Times.
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This propaganda showed up this morning from Amazon..................

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investiga....
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Regardless of whether Moore tried with a 14 year old, we have to judge his conduct in the context of the times. That is also the opinion of the law. Let us not forget that Roman Polanski, who drugged and sodomized a 13-year old, was initially given a plea bargain of 90 days. The times have changed, for the better, but the moral flexibility of the left never ceases to amaze me.
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Regardless of whether Moore tried with a 14 year old, we have to judge his conduct in the context of the times.

COMPLETELY disagree.

The problem with these "charges" is that there is exactly ONE "actionable" (e.g. disqualifying, would be illegal even if beyond the statute of limitations, etc) charge -- that he "tried" with a 14 year old girl.

And let me be clear -- I don't give a **** when in contemporary society that was; if you're over 20 and are going after 14 year olds, you're a creep.

But the OTHER so-called "complaints" are not complaints at all! Those OTHER ones are claims that AS AN ADULT he asked out, with the permission of their parents, a handful of persons who were over the age of consent and the "most-inappropriate" thing he did with ANY of them was share a kiss.

Under ANY reasonable standard there is utterly NOTHING wrong with that. He was single at the time, he had no power relationship with said young person, said young person was of the age of consent and he asked for and received the blessing of their parents to court them, which he then did under entirely-appropriate circumstances (e.g. playing a guitar for them, spending time, etc) with the MOST EGREGIOUS charge being that the two of them shared a consensual kiss or three at some point during said time.

There's no allegation he SLEPT WITH (or tried to) any of those women despite them being legally able to consent to sleeping with him. There's no allegation that he "spirited them away" without the knowledge OR CONSENT of their parents, even when it wasn't required (e.g. said young woman was 18 or older.) He was unmarried so you can't tag him with "adultery" even in THOUGHT (since he never slept with any of them) say much less deed.

The ONE actionable charge is that ONE PERSON (who apparently has some history of not being exactly truthful with regard to men; I have some background data on that but haven't been able to confirm it yet and so I'm NOT going to report the particulars) says he did this when she was 14.

IF TRUE it's disqualifying. But the problem is that there's ZERO EVIDENCE not only that the allegation is true but that his intentions EVEN IF THE ALLEGATION IS TRUE were particularly prurient -- the OTHER young women don't even allege he tried to (say much less DID!) **** them.

I note that even if you're a prostitute you can still be sexually assaulted; that you do something willingly sometimes doesn't mean you did it willingly THAT time. But in THIS case there's exactly ONE allegation of dubious credibility which isn't corroborated by the alleged "other accusers"; if anything it is REFUTED!

So... no, we shouldn't DISMISS the allegation but right now it's an UNSUBSTANTIATED allegation with ZERO evidence to support it and a bunch of, according to the "media", co-accusers WHO ACTUALLY BACK UP MOORE'S INNOCENCE RATHER THAN SUGGEST HIS GUILT.

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Point taken.
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@Aztrader: Did you actually get those WaPo links from Amazon? People say Trump is crazy for thinking them, shall we say, not independent. But if Amazon is spreading WaPo news...That would be quite remarkable.
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Roll,

The email came from Amazon. All the Wapo news links I get come from Amazon.
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Amazon just made a move to take my primary product. I am currently sending a letter to my manufacturer letting them know the consequences.

Hello Piexon,


Amazon is looking to add new products in our retail space and would like to have a direct retail relationship with you. We think Amazon will be an exciting new sales channel for you to reach both our Amazon.com and Amazon Business customers while also providing a powerful marketing opportunity for you. To help with the process, we are able to add your full selection of products to Amazon using our Item Setup assistance for free. This Item Setup assistance is dedicated for strategic selection and will ease the setup process by providing email and phone support.

Please let me know if this is an opportunity you are interested in pursuing. I can answer any questions via email or happy to jump on a call as well. To best assist you, please provide the below information in your response:
Primary contact name:
Primary contact phone:
Primary contact email:
Full business name:
Catalog size (number of items):
Category type of the majority of your products:
Do you have a warehouse in the US:

If there is someone else in your company that I should reach out to please let me know. I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you,
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Shut it down. I told them that my purchases will stop if they even consider this. They then deleted the email.
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AZ, I don't quite get the gist of what Amazon is doing. Can you provide some more detail?
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I am the sole importer for a specific company and the product is becoming popular with police departments. They tried to back door me and become a second importer of this product so they can destroy my business by discounting the product to the point of killing my profitability.
They try to sell the point that they will increase sales for the manufacturer, but don't have a clue about liability and what kind of training police departments require. They are only interested in taking over the product and destroying my business. I just saw this article on ZH. This is getting scary for anyone in the retail business.......
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-18....
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That ********** needs to meet the wood chipper.

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Agreed. Thanks for the explanation AZ.
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@AZ:

Idiots over at ZH:

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They succeeded. Starting with an idea and no money and became a giant at the free market with their innovation, service, low prices, and so on.


This dude has no ****ing clue what Amazon is doing...
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Looks like he has weaseled his way into the Deep State. He may need to go to prison, but odds are he won't.

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Meh.

There is no "deep state" without your ACTIVE, DAILY consent.

Give me a ****ing break; this **** nonsense needs to die in a fire.

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