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Tickerguy
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I have a Berkey and a decent stash of AquaMira drops. Plus all my backpacking stuff.

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Snooze
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Fuel stations ran out of gas this morning in LaBelle. Most stations in Sebring started to run out early afternoon today. Evacuees from Stuart South who choose the run through the center of the state now will have a hardtime finding fuel if they do not leave with a full tank. Expect the coastal routes to be worse for finding fuel.

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Tickerguy
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Yep... bug out now or don't at all!

Taking a Cat 4 or 5 in your car is going to SUCK.

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Bagbalm
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Just North of Detroit
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6:30 Wed. traffic map. Red is less than 25 mph. Orange is under 50.
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Anybody who's evacuating Miami now without plenty of extra gas, guns, grub, gear ( e.g., rain gear) and hydro is risking his life. If you wait much longer to leave --- until this monster Irma is almost in Florida's back yard --- you actually risk death somewhere on a highway.. I have a house in Houston ( I missed all the fun with Harvey, by the way) and I can tell you from experience that you don't order an evacuation from a major city and expect to not have casualties... Houston ordered an evaluation, once, and if memory serves me right ( and it might not serve me right) the authorities claimed nearly 100 people were killed or injured during an evaluation that proved unnecessary because the forecast was incorrect.

So, beware of the perils on the road. It might be a better idea to find somewhere that you can shelter in place... In Houston there's some very well built hotels which have access to ten story parking garages.. Part of our family plan --- if and when we decide to bugout from a cat 2 or higher --- is too rent a uhaul and fill it full of our valuable items and survival gear; then park it up and inside of a building which is built to the to standard of " **** you hurricane! Huff and puff all you want".. and get a hotel room in the Four Seasons and use our connections to remain behind...

The only way I'd attempt to leave Miami after tomorrow would be on a dirt bike with two gas cans concealed as saddle bags, a Glock, bullet resistant vest, money belt full of cash and a well appointed bugout bag which included the most important papers...

.....the dirt bike would at least give you a chance to negotiate the traffic jam.

... Other than that, I'd find a some kind of a ****-you shelter...


Mrkarol
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Chicago
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Not saying anything that hasn't been said already here, but the first thing I thought about when they started airing the "stores are out of bottled water" piece was what the hell is wrong with tap??!! I wonder if the container store was out of freakin containers!

One thing that people are probably forgetting about is a heat source. Just because it's hot in Florida means nothing when you are knee deep. Being wet will bring your core temp down quickly and the results are deadly. Always be prepared with a few full propane tanks at home. They last quite a while.
Tom_servo
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Central Florida
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Here on the west coast of Florida - I just did a bike ride around to local gas stations and all are dry. My brother wants me to evacuate, and I asked him "why? so i can get in the car, and run out of gas in a traffic jam. Then what, walk home?". No chance of finding bottled water if you want it. Publix has been stripped of most non-perishable foods also.

I have hurricane shutters just in case the track comes back west - and we have multiple sources of water already ready. Finally using some of the gear my wife thought i was crazy for stock piling. Found some cool **** i didn't even remember i had. Best of luck to all FLoridians....

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You might, I repeat MIGHT, be able to make decent time if you leave around midnight tonight and drive all night. If I was the one evacuating I honestly don't know what route I would try. I-95 hugs the coast until you are into South Carolina so if you get stuck on it you are screwed, the Turnpike to I-75 might be a better option because if you do get stuck on the highway you will be further inland. But it would still suck mightily.

If you do get on the highway and can make some miles don't stop until you are in Georgia. A second bit of advice, if coastal GA evacuates there are no evacuation shelters in the coastal counties OR one county inland, you have to go to at least the second county inland to find a shelter, as I understand things. If you look on a map that means Baxley GA or further inland.

Good luck to those in the path, they are going to need it, it seems.

Flap

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Asimov
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East Tennessee Eastern Time
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Google maps traffic is showing red the entire road between ft lauderdale to the north side of port st lucie. Good bit more red elsewhere too.

I know it's not perfect, but it doesn't look particularly good.

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Vernonb
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East of Sheol
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Airlines now price gouging on the tickets to get out?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/travelers....

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Mickey
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Chic
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It has been at least 25 years but back then we drove with kids to Ft Lauderdale for Spring break leaving the Saturday morning to head back north (coincident with final four weekend. I forgot where but it was on turnpike while stil near the Ocean when it stopped. Weather perfect. Apparently we were not the only ones headed back that morning. After the highways merged in the middle of th estate, a few miles north it opened up again.

That was many years ago when population was much less in Florida. I cannot imagine now when people are leaving in a panic upset mode.
With the kids were expecting to get into the motel at around 5 that evening and an easy dinner someplace--we got in at 11.

My mental note to myself was if we ever drove down for spring break again, I'd sleep around the pool Friday and drive up out of the state Friday after dinner, or late afternoon Saturday.

No idea what the strategy would be now. Some of my family and friends down there have already left, some planning tomorrow, some, those inland and on high ground which is 20 feet above sea level, staying. I don't get it.

Eli
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Hey what does bumper to bumper traffic do to your fuel economy?


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Tickerguy
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**** it up

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Eli
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If Florida is already running low on gas there are going to be cars stalled on the road from running out of fuel further blocking traffic.


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I know someone has mentioned this somewhere but I've not seen it yet this time around, if Irma tracks northward with its eye just barely off of the eastern Florida coastline it will do tremendous damage for miles and miles. If it does so it could become the most costly storm in US history.

That is the scenario that people have feared for years, instead of going inland and only destroying a short section of coastline, a "strafing run" up the coast will be horrible.

I'm glad I'm not in southern FL, apparently the time to leave was yesterday or maybe early this AM if you got on the road really early.

Flap

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Here are my predictions for everyone to see:
S&P 500 at 320, DOW at 2200, Gold $300/oz, and Corn $2/bu.
No sign that housing, equities, or farmland are in a bubble- Yellen 11/14/13
Trying to leave the Rat Race to the rats...
Tickerguy
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When I posted "GET OUT NOW" it was still entirely reasonable to do so.

It's getting less so by the HOUR. By tomorrow mid-afternoon it will be damn hard, if not impossible.

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Tsherry
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Spokane WA
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Safely watching things unfold from the opposite corner of the lower 48, even though the whole ****ing Pacific Northwest and half of Canada is on fire.....still rather be here.

Stay safe down there, y'all.
Quik49
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Meanwhile out west here.... Missoula
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Nolaguy
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New Orleans
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I'm in Vero Beach. I figure north and inland is better than being 200 yards from the Indian River Lagoon during a cat 5, so I'm heading to a hotel on the south side of Orlando airport very early tomorrow morning. I'm considering taking 1 or A1A up to cocoa and then 520/528 west to avoid i-95 and the turnpike. Wife and pet are booked on a flight out of Orlando early saturday morning.

I'll head to a buddy's house in north Orlando from there. I can cut to tampa from there if needed too. (my thinking is that east-west traffic will be better than south-north)..

House is secured. Most of the people I've talked to around town over the last 2 days said they are staying. Crazy.

I have not purchased any bottled water. :-)
Vernonb
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East of Sheol
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These disaster and potential disaster scenes remind me of events in 1906 that occurred right before the founding of the "Federal reserve" banking system.

I can't wonder but how much these stupid policies of the various governments will now nearly bankrupt this country from these new disasters.

There is more at stake here than simply property damage and lives in the path of a storm. How much more will be tacked onto the national debt to cover these issues? We are being eaten by the stupid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/po....

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Quik49
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Just found out dumass brother in-law on Marco island is still...on Marco island.... And just read gas about out....

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Analog
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arkansas ozarks
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Some friends of mine from Homestead went up US 27 to near Sebring for Andrew then came back home to the devastation. Said traffic was light.

Dad was a forecaster in the Miami office from 40's through 70's. He told me a 1946 storm barrelled in on Irma's projected path . Homestead AFB's anemometers recorded 200 mph just before they blew away. Right after end of WW2 - probably they were good ones... Storm was down to 140 by time it hit Miami 30 miles North. They slow down fast over land.

After Andrew Dad and another old forecaster who'd lived in Homestead in '46 went down there to have a look. They estimated from memories of the tree and building damage Andrew probably had 200 mph gusts .

I think were I in Miami in something not built when they still remembered hurricanes , i'd call the Jacaranda in Avon Park and reserve a room. It's a delightful 1930's hotel that U of Florida students run for a Hotel Management course. Service is sometimes amateurish but you'll think you are on the set of "Some Like it Hot" .

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Analog
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arkansas ozarks
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Daughter and SIL just moved from Homestead to Louisville KY . Whew !

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Supertruckertom
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USA
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Well, my trailers leaving Tampa weren't ready until 23:00 Wednesday evening.

The traffic was heavy on I-75 North and came to a crawl just to the South of the I -75 / Turnpike merge.
We will probably shut down operations tomorrow afternoon.
We cannot get fuel delivered to our terminals in Florida.
The City driver waited 45 minutes to refuel at a truck stop before turning the tractor over to me for the night.
Starting to see cars on the side of the road.
The Stupid DOT was actually doing paving work in Tampa.
Only one U-Haul so far and it was towing a car on a trailer.
Going to be fun tonight.

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Drifter
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Pacific Northwest
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Jesus Quick... looks like you should GTFO.

I thought I was safe from a wildfire two years ago around Chelan, WA. Seemed to be contained, then it jumped a mile behind us. We got sandwiched on two sides. When we bugged out, the fire passed us on either side of our only escape route, a gravel forest service road. The fire was travelling about 10 mph faster than we could drive.

Sheer terror.

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