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2017-07-26 11:02 by Karl Denninger
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When you're right, you're right -- and on the so-called "transgender" nonsense related to the military he's right.

Folks, the military is not a place where delusion or confusion is a good thing.  You have enough external sources of that (especially in an actual combat situation!) to begin with.  Adding more such sources is suicidally stupid.

Sit down, take a minute and think: Let's assume it's raining outside.  You insist that it is not, despite the fact that you can see it raining, I can see it raining, and so can everyone else.

As time goes on you continue to insist that it is not raining, despite the ground being wet and, as the rain continues to fall, soggy.  You now decide that since you're sure it's not raining you're going to drive a tank across said soggy field.

It becomes bogged down and everyone inside gets killed when it can no longer move and it is targeted by the enemy.

So how is this different?

Folks, someone who denies physical reality either doesn't see it or is delusional.

One is fairly easy to resolve through education -- if you insist that it's not raining but you can't see outside I can point you at the window.  Your confusion is immediately resolved and now you agree with the physical facts: It is raining.

If you continue to insist that it is not then you're delusional.

Delusions are a form of mental illness.

Now let's look at this from a different angle.

Most people are unhappy with some aspect of who they are, or their life, at some point in time.  In fact virtually everyone is unhappy about something this very minute.  There are varying degrees, of course, of unhappiness.  For example as I write this I'm unhappy that I do not have an espresso sitting next to the keyboard, because I have not had my second one for the day as of yet.  I'm unhappy that my hair is turning gray and has been for more than 10 years.  And I'm unhappy that I'm not a billionaire sitting on a 200' yacht at the moment.

These factors of unhappiness have different degrees, of course.  The latter, not being a billionaire, is not very strong at all.  I'm not Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos and while it might be nice to be either, I'm ok with the "not", mostly because I believe that achieving that would come with being an ******* at a level that might actually make me more unhappy on-balance.  I had plenty of tastes of that during my younger years and while necessity is a bitch that doesn't make for happiness; being good at something doesn't mean you enjoy it.

The middling one is a mild unhappiness.  It's quite mild because it's also quite fixable for little cost; I could choose to dye my hair, for example.  Obviously, since doing so is inexpensive I'm not very unhappy over that.

And finally, I will address the espresso unhappiness about the time I hit "send" on the Market Ticker site here, since I have coffee in the kitchen and the machine is on.  I can therefore alleviate that unhappiness with about 20' of walking and a couple of minutes of effort.

So let's examine the other possibility when it comes to allegedly "trans" people: They're not delusional; they understand that if they have an XY chromosome pair they're a man -- they're just profoundly unhappy about it.

Well, so what you say?

That's actually quite a big deal.  You see while it's perfectly ok to be unhappy about something (we all are) when you're so-profoundly unhappy that you are willing to cut things off from your body so as to produce an illusion of a change in what you are that's indicative of clinical depression.

The fact is that you can't change your sex -- you can produce an illusion of being the opposite sex from what you actually are but it is factually impossible to actually change your sex as that is immutable from the time you were a zygote!

Profound unhappiness that leads to self-mutilation is well-recognized as clinical depression and is a form of mental illness.

I don't care if saying this is politically correct or not -- it's the truth.

Having people who are profoundly mentally ill in our military on purpose is a mistake.  War is a terrible thing and our military exists for one reason: If called upon they are expected to kill people and break their stuff.

It is utterly nuts to hire people for that job who we know, in advance, are either delusional or profoundly depressed.  Doing so is not only unfair to them it's extraordinarily dangerous as well; if you are deluded about one thing you might be deluded about many, and the decisions you must make if you are called upon to do the job you were hired for demand that you (1) not be deluded and (2) not be clinically depressed.

Obviously we can't prevent everyone who is either delusional or depressed from being in the military, simply because it's not always clear that someone harbors those problems internally in advance.  But someone who claims to be "trans" has declared themselves to either be deluded or profoundly depressed and just as the service denied many people for induction during WWII due to a history of turberculosis even if it was not active the military must deny entry or retention to those who it identifies as having this condition.  In fact that's why my father escaped being sent to war (and possibly killed) while his brother was inducted (and survived.)

Trump is right, in short.  While we are currently nominally in "peaceful" conditions our military still is called upon to take forceful action in various parts of the world from time to time and exists at all because with little or no warning it may be called upon to do terrible but necessary things.

Intentionally placing mentally impaired individuals into the service is stupid and to do so for political correctness reasons is criminally stupid as it has a high probability of being the direct or indirect cause of getting our own men and women killed.

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Themortgagedude
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Littlemortgagedude (age 14) comes into my home office the other day - "Dad from now on you can call me Apache. I self-identify as an attack helicopter." Says nothing else and leaves the room.

I might have to get him an account set up on here.

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Yep,

There is no effective argument that accommodating and dealing with trannies makes for an effective military.

If you want to become a girl and cut off your penis and take estrogen do it on your own time and not on my dime!

The whole tranny push is really progressive group think and an exercise in mind control. The only acceptable progressive thought is that if someone chooses to
identify as a girl, then they are 100% a girl. Anything else is a thought crime.

It gets back to Karl's rain example.

It is not enough for you or anyone else to think hey live and let live do what you want, but you are not a girl. The progressive mind control and the group think is, we all 100% join into your self delusion, you are girl!
This level of self delusion and mind control is very very dangerous, it means these people will take marching orders on anything their leaders give them.

It boggles my mind that the military would ever pay for and provide surgeries for people to mutilate themselves.
Why stop at becoming a girl or a boy?
What if someone self identifies as a dog?

I'm a dog, I want a tail and big teeth NOW PAY FOR IT! IF YOU DON'T YOUR A BIGOT!

Reminds be of a joke.

Two guys are walking past this big Rottweiler,
and the dog is licking his balls.

The first guy says "boy I wish I could do that,"

His friend turns to him with a look of concern
"oh, man, no way that dog would bite you!"

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That's leadership. Screw the PC status quo.............
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Did Donald check to see if Obama allowed any trans people access to the nuke codes before he tweeted that?
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Quote:
Littlemortgagedude (age 14) comes into my home office the other day - "Dad from now on you can call me Apache. I self-identify as an attack helicopter." Says nothing else and leaves the room.


That's from a funny, relatively old meme. Search for it if you want a laugh.

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When the military has to be PC, you might as well shut it down. The promotion of this confusion needs to stop. The SJW's want to kill people who disagree with them. Only their side of the argument counts, no matter what the cost. I think Adolph Hitler had that kind of mindset.

There is no Constitution in the Army, no fairness, etc. It was never meant to be a social program and as far as that goes, wasn't meant to be a permanent fixture. It is not a place for people who are triggered over the slightest setback, like Hillary losing an election. If you don't know what you are supposed to have between your legs when you are alone, warfare isn't likely for you.

This brings to mind something my uncle told me back in 2004. He was in high school when the Korean War broke out. He wanted my grandfather to sign a paper so he could go in the Army at age 17. My grandfather had been in WWI and fought at the battle of the Argonne Forest. He said no. He had been gassed and suffered frost bite in the war, but what he said afterwards, I had never heard. The talk was always about brave young men, but he said when the shells started flying all he saw and heard were boys hiding in the trenches and crying for their mamas. The forest was gone when the sun came up. Then he said, do what you want when you are 18, but I will be damned if I volunteer my son to go there. That doesn't sound like a place for an uncertain mind and in fact, it would be fraud to let them think they qualified for such a torture trip.

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Blocking LGB from joining the military made sense when it was seriously socially unacceptable (and illegal). They were a security risk, plus interfered with unit cohesion. Now that it's socially acceptable? Personally I could care less, just don't proposition me or be gazing at me in the showers, but I can still see it being a problem for some people.

Blocking women from combat jobs? I'm all for "if you can do the work, you can have the job", but as a former Airborne Infantryman myself, I can tell you it's ****ing HARD, even not in combat. If you can't do 6 miles at a 6 minute pace, in formation and singing cadence (and likely as not hungover), you are nothing but a liability. Same if you can't knock out 12 miles in boots, helmet, rifle and another 80lbs of misc gear in blazing humidity in under 2 hours. Or if you can't pull at least a 90% on the PT test. Which means women need to be world class athletes to be merely average among the men.

But Trans? No. Hell no! Mentally Ill. No ****ing business being in a job where the literal lives of your comrades depend on you being stable. If you are so depressed you want to get your junk cut off, or want hormone treatments to make you weaker, I damn sure don't want you checking my parachute, guarding my back, or anything else.
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@Elkad -- Just so. If you can't cut it, I can, and that's the end of it.

I'll trust my AR-15, my 20 gauge, and my M&P 9mm before I'll trust anyone who is "confused" about their gender...

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FNAR. The end.

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Which Physical Fitness Test would a transgender person take? Back when I was in, as an 18 year old a female only had to do like 17 pushups while a male was 52. Would a tranny get to choose?

I guess we could just have a single standard which would be the 17 pushups and everything would be great.

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Which Physical Fitness Test would a transgender person take? Back when I was in, as an 18 year old a female only had to do like 17 pushups while a male was 52. Would a tranny get to choose?

I guess we could just have a single standard which would be the 17 pushups and everything would be great.

And this is the problem when you get down to it.

Why do you need to do 52? You either need to be able to do 52 to do the job or you don't. If you do then everyone needs to do it in order to get and stay in. If not then nobody does.

The problem is that in a lot of areas in the military physical strength and stamina really DO matter. If you're going to treat every swinging dick as having to meet the standard irrespective of their MOS then whether you HAVE a dick to swing should not matter at all -- you meet the standard, ONE STANDARD, or you don't get in or stay in. Period.

If it's MOS-specific then it is. That means if I choose an MOS that only requires 17 pushups, then that's what I have to do.

The military exists to break **** and kill people. That's it's job. There are parts of the military (e.g. a surgeon, for example) that DON'T require being able to hump a loaded pack on a forced march. But then again if you insist that you can (and should be able to) press ANYONE up onto a front line if the need requires, well, then EVERYONE has to meet the standard.

Figure out what the real requirements are and apply them to everybody.

But here's one standard I KNOW must apply to everyone in the military: You CANNOT be delusional or severely and clinically depressed. No way, no how. Not in the military.

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The next Olympics are going to be interesting. No gender or testosterone testing of any kind.
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Thanks Karl for this succinct way of putting it, "being good at something doesn't mean you enjoy it."

May I quote you when there are times people need to hear it.

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I won't take the other side of that but David Russell Williams might
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Just a couple of pieces of reality come to my mind with this issue. "Trans-activists" are constantly repeating the line that upwards of around 40% of "transgender" people are suicidal. If that number is as correct as trans-activists insist, then why would you want a group of people with that kind of rate of suicidal ideation in a job where they are required to operate firearms and other weapons designed to end life? If a group of people with a similar rate of being suicidal but for a different root cause were upset about not being eligible for military service, I doubt people would be screaming about bigotry as they are right now.

My second piece of reality pertains to my lack of thyroid and knowing people that were diagnosed with thyroid cancer in the military. Once they finished with treatment, they were discharged because their lack of thyroid and reliance on thyroid hormone replacement made them permanently non-deployable. As someone that has lived without a thyroid for nearly 26 years, I can see why that policy makes sense. I believe there is a similar policy for people that develop diabetes while in the military. If one's endocrine system is out of whack in any fashion, that's actually a serious medical problem that has major effects on the performance of the human body and brain, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that. Given the fact that the thyroid-less and those with diabetes are non-deployable, this policy change is simply keeping everything consistent for people with endocrine disorders. And if you are one sex and you are taking endocrine hormones to give you characteristics of the other sex, you are most definitely creating an endocrine disorder for yourself with the assistance of the medical profession.
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Another aspect of the situation is that, if you expect people to embody a high ideal of personal honor, to the point of sacrificing their life and limb for a worthy cause, then the organization they're in (that is, the army) must itself have a tradition of honor.

Which also means, you cannot turn that into a circus.

Trans-whatever, also forcing men soldiers to march in high heels just to feel what it feels like (The "Walk a Mile in Her Shoes" event), or to wear padding in front imitating a pregnant woman, etc...
There's a place for clowns, and it's not in the army.

Once it's turned into a circus, people who in the past risked their lives in combat will start leaving in disgust.


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Food for thought...

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The next step after allowing trannies in the military would be the clamor for taxpayers to pay for their surgeries. Like the inmate in CA where we got to pay for "gender reassignment " surgery.
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